Understanding the entire thread I've laid before you...

Just got this text 5 mins ago: Love you so very much...Love you always.

Ignore? (I know that's supposed to be the plan) How long? My response?...

Ignore. It'll only lead further down the rabbit hole. There's nothing TO respond to. What are you going to say "I love you too!" and have the same crap continue? Stand firm man, this is designed for a response from you hitting on your emotional buttons. If you want any chance for a healthy relationship with her, and more importantly yourself. stay strong and move on (for now).

Thanks...SMH, this shit is hard man (rye laff)...Just read this from eddie's site...

If you want her back – which you probably won’t if you really do what you’re supposed to, when she contacts you IGNORE HER the first time and respond the second time she reaches out. THIS SHIT NEVER FAILS.. TRUST ME.. There are no unique situations. I don’t give two shits what the text or voicemail says, let her contact you at least twice before you respond. The first text is always spontaneous, the second and third will reveal her true feelings. If you don’t want her back then of course just ignore her all together and just carry on with life.

So just hold out, cry, and rebuild. And when she contacts you IGNORE the first text and then respond to the second or third one.

It make take a couple days for her to send a second text, but she will.. THEY ALWAYS DO. There are no female exceptions to the rule; no matter how great you thought or think she is. We’re animals, creatures of habits and NO ONE is above human nature.



@eddie or whoever - Once you do get that second response what are your options interns of responding back..Specifically to something like "Love you Always,..."

Bro.

Stop thinking so far ahead. Deal with it as it comes. RELAX. You're getting girly on me. It's saturday night. Get out the house.

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nah dude I'm good been outside of the house all day chillin, went to the supermarket and talked to various chicks to get my mojo feeling right. I just want to have my game on. When the time arrives...

Went to your site got some insight and my confidence is that a whole nother level than it was when I talked to you yesterday...just getting that text flipped the game in my possession...I've admitted that it's hard but I'm not going to cave in on the overwhelming advice on ignoring the first text...

And I just wanted to clear something up for you and whoever else may read this.

A woman will be 'hurt' by anything you feel a need to hide or lie to her about. Had you not hid, lied, or reacted in the manner that suggested you did anything wrong she would of taken on this state the same way she takes on your state when you assume attraction and/or friendzones the guy who doesn't. A woman is always following your lead energetically.

A good example of this ( and yeah I now its just a movie), is a scene from the movie "Knocked Up".. The scene where the wife thinks her husband is cheating and so she stalked him to find that he was only secretly playing fantasy baseball while pretended to be staying out late for work. She reacted with the same emotion she would of reacted if he was actually cheating. Because it wasn't the CHEATING, it was the fact that he felt a need to lie, fake, or hide it from her. He made it wrong by assuming he would have to lie about it. Women aren't aware this, they think its the cheating thats hurting them, but its actually just the lie, its the hiding, its the lack of strength and fear of her. Fear that her knowing your truth should be stronger that you're need to walk and act with integrity.

So it wasn't the FB messages, it wasn't the courting of another woman that brought this upon you; it was the fact that you felt a need to lie and or hide it from her. A woman can forgive a wrong, but what she can't forgive is not being able to trust your word. As her leader she has to be able to rely on what you say.

I've been on both sides of this coin, but when I didn't lie the woman was always right there by my side. I wasn't afraid to lose her, so i told the truth and thats the only way to keep her.

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so she just called me a few minutes ago and asked if she left something at the house so she can come pick it up. So the ignore worked...I told her I don't see what you're looking for butI'm watching the ball game if you want to come get it then Come get....then she's like well the party isn't till later this week so maybe I'll come get it later....told her cool just call when ur coming....

That was it...

I would of advised you not to pick up bro. Or ignore it and then text her a "?" - question mark.

She would of went crazy. Her call was a manufactured call just to check your "state" - She's knows she didn't leave anything, she just wanted to measure whether you were "over" her or not by listening to the tone of your voice. And because she said " She'll come later" suggested that she heard all she needed to.

You'll have to sit for now.

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I've been out of the game for three and a half years that's why I came to PUA to get my mind back on track...i went to your site and read some cool shit but saw nothing specific on responses when she contacts u back a second time after the ignore...that's why I asked about this yesterday...had I known this would be the advice I would have surely followed it. when you said relax and just take it as it comes I felt like answering the phone and playing it cool was that strategy...the answer you just gave me I wanted it yesterday lol...

the fact that she contacted me unprovoked 2 times in a row including a love you always text, tells me that I still have a decent edge. so I guess I'm just going to chill now eventually she'll have to come over but until then fuck it unless u got more to share....because I've been feeling good about things and I'm in a good place mentally then I was a few days ago. I'm not going back to that shit

Oh hell yeah bro, you're definitely in prime position. And you're definitely still leading.. When I said relax what I meant was, don't rush into a response, just take it as it comes. Technology has made it so we have to "rush" - the phone rings "ANSWER IT" I get it. I could've made that a bit more clear.

Next time she contacts you just post it here before you do anything. Hell, if she comes knocking at the door, come post before you open it lol.

I got you man; you're straight. And there is surely more to come.

Just hold tight .

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Im trying to hold tight bruh...had the urge to call her, text her today then just paused and did something else...it is what it is, its a process...

I like to think about my moves in advance so I don't have to do stuff like quickly logon and wait at random for u to log on...lol....watching a basketball game right now trying to keep my mind off things it sucks but I'm going to try to be cool

Try bro?

What would you call her and say? " I'm so sorry, please take me back " - Chill bro lol.. Just chill.

If you call her, it will be over the moment her phone rings.

Nothing worthwhile comes easy, hold strong and be the man your weren't being while you were with her.

The subconscious will present you with the most logical and intelligent rationale for why you should call her, but its all a lie and a product of your emotion. You have to know what you should do despite what emotions try to coax you into doing.

Like if you got angry and your emotions told you to kill the guy in front of you. You have to know that despite your emotions telling you to do so, it is the wrong thing to do. Love is an emotion just as angry is an emotions, and just like anger love can build or it can destroy. Hence the expression " show no love, love will get you killed". Which is a stretch, but it holds some truth for sure.

You have to be the overseer of your emotion. And now just isn't the time to respond to them.

If you want to do something to assist yourself - stay away from any products containing "soy".. Soy has an enzyme in it called aromatase and it dramatically boost estrogen levels. One glass of soy milk contains the estrogen equivalent to taking five birth control pills. That shit will turn a man into a girl with ease.

Hold your seed, refrain from soy, and get as much sunlight as you can and this will all become easier.

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I here what you're saying...I'm just not gonna be phony and pretend like I don't be havin the urge to go against this damn good advice...Secondly I don't fuck with Soy, lol...but I recently discovered Milk minus the lactose and let me tell you as a black man its a GAMECHANGER lmao...imagine drinking milk with no repercussions...

Like I said I'm coolin'...but there are moments before bedtime or when I get off work...the routines I have with this chick I honestly miss them (also miss letting the seed matriculate lol)...

I love this line: Nothing worthwhile comes easy, hold strong and be the man your weren't being while you were with her.

I'm following it dog, but its tough bruh...I have the gift for gab (actually get paid for it) and my default position is always being able to recruit or persuade her (or any girl I've been with) to do what I want even after a breakup... I know how to blend logic with emotion to reel a girl back in (not saying I'm on any high level, just that I know how to do it and its worked for me)...Sometimes I hate that I'm a great manipulator but i am (real talk)...

I'm a gemini and I'm capable of telling wonderous stories, conversations and poetry to get girls back...I mean after the second breakup I did this poetry book shit ( again I did feel guilty that I persused the co-worker who was literally the baddest chick I ever was in a work environment with who came on to me...I did want to make things right) and she cried and died of tears and couldn't resist taking me back..

All your advice (especially what I've read from your website) makes so much good fucking sense...Its just that this time I didn't think no contact...followed by wonderous conversation...followed by good makeup sex is gonna work...She's seen it in action...

So thats why i wanna have my game tight if she calls or texts...thats why I seeked out a cat like you...My high value was stripped away after that second breakup and the mini-breakups that would follow...Before that co-worker shit i had all the power and the girl looked up to me completely...I wanted to know from a skilled gaming cat on how to do it, get that back... but I'm stuck between loving the advice I've read from you and others and understanding that my style has worked too...

Lol if yall don't give me the nuanced advice for when and if she hollers back at me I'm prone (in the moment) to revert back to my style that has worked...Its crazy because I'm not hurting for girls in my vicinity who may be interested in me, its just that prior to that co-worker shit was maybe the best relationship of my life..

I got a sexy with actual BOOTY, half-Asian/half-Dominican girl who is 25 but looks 18, who's first generation to America and has no father and no strict traditional stuff that i had to adhere too (thats rare), who grew up watching her mom date black guys so I can bring her in my family dynamic with no weirdness, no lost translation, she super hip-hop, creative as shit...

Makes meals that are killer exotic, enjoys having threesomes and creative sex, sexually free...loves black girls with butt...Aargh, but it is what it is I fucked it up, yet I know she loves me still...Just trying to get it back pre-fuckup...

Now go ahead and destroy me for this post, lol ...I just have to talk shit out sometimes...

Team Gemini

You're talking to a reflection of yourself. Everything you said I identify with completely. Poetry has always been a killer for me. Thats the first thing I text a girl when I get her number. A little 3 text long poem and about her, our conversation, and my experience with her. They're usually hooked from that point forward. Reading that made my stomach tighten a bit, because it sounds like something I would say during my moments of less emotional control.

I found myself here too, listing all of the amazing things about the girl to myself, and in aw over it. I get it. I get it. I get it. But what about the negatives? Absence damn sure does make the heart grow fonder. You're completely overlooking the things negative things about this girl that are result of her own personal damage. She damn sure ain't emotionally whole. Say what you want.. But I know girls like this. And they can be pretty messed up in the head when you get to the root of it. Theres good times for sure; the sex is great, and great sex further bonds you to a woman; but eventually you're going to have to learn to stand independently. You're leaning on all the she's providing and like a child hooked on his pacifier you want to get it back any way you can.

Theres nothing you can say about this girl that is too far from a girl I've probably already dated. You came up on one. Thats dope, but theres more and theres better. Theres things I won't say here publicly for a various of reasons, but if you PM, i'll throw you my SPAM if you want to get into further conversation.

As someone who doesn't know you from a hole in the wall, someone that just wants to see you win, i'm asking for you to hold on and hold out. The thing with all that poetry and all that gift of gab shit is; where are all those old chicks that once went head over hills for it now? Sure a couple of them still linger, and some you can probably still hit up to this day and get back with them, but where are they now?

And let me finally just inform you of something i've found to be a personal truth.. At the moments in which you are thinking about contacting her the MOST are the moments whens he is also thinking about you most. My pops always told me, even as a little boy.. A woman can always hold out 24 hours longer than a man when it comes to no contact. If the guy can just manage to fight beyond the point in which he is emotionally ready to blow; he'll have exactly what he wants.

P.S. That lactaid milk ain't what you think it is. I'd avoid all milk and cheese period, but thats another conversation for another day.

One love.

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Aw man I just got back from my 2nd job and I'm tired as shit...I would love to chat on this when I get a minute...Honestly Im trying to get the earplug with you on the other end hooking me up on the puppeteer tip just to get back in good lol, then I'll take back over using all the good stuff I've read from your site and some others...Once I fell or we both fell, like most cats I stopped doing all the super high value shit I did to get the girl... showed her my weaker side, let her break me down and once I got caught in the cookie jar it was a slippery slope I now still find myself on...

I honestly just want the precise gameplan to follow...I know I know "ignore", but I want variables like

For if she calls or texts back do A or B
If she doesn't contact do A or B

Since she was the last to call me what would be a good plan for me to make contact (she contacted me twice)...lol I just wanna compress this shit to a two week spat...

I know that's alot to ask because you don't know me, but understanding my particular situation and the fact that I'm pretty resilient with the persuasive wordplay stuff...I just need the ABC plan and I'll follow...When you or whoever says just chill, don't think about it, go talk to other girls etc., I get it...I know what you're trying to get me to do...I'm glad I'm a gemini and bipolar enough to flip between being sad and smiling while taking on this Challenge....But I have my own agenda within this context because I understand my situation...


Ugh, don't know what I'm talking about anymore..going to sleep now thanks...Oh and I am probably sleeping on the lactose free milk...something gotta be up because that shit is too real..the end of bubbleguts is a real achievement...,.