There are girls that say "i have a boyfriend" as soon as you start talking to them. These I understand.

Then there are girls that will talk to you, but then at the end they say they have a boyfriend. These I dont understand.

I will describe a situation that I encountered. very typical. I go up to a girl and say "hey, I noticed you were checking me out" she say "I was?" I say "blah blah"
the conversation leads to things like "where are you from" "what brings you here" blah blah.
at this point I am thinking "I am doing great. finally someone who's digging me"

Then she gets a call on her phone and and she says "nice to meet you" and leaves. I say "no, wait. I wanna stay in touch with you" she says "I have a boyfriend"

I dont get it. why not tell me that at the beginning? I have these theories:
1. she doesn't have a boyfriend. she gave me a chance but realized she doesn't like me
2. she has a boyfriend and she was just using me for entertainment purposes
3. she was too nice and didn't want to reject me right from the beginning
4. some weird female logic that I dont get ?

i pick 1, and 2 and possibly combined with number 3.

see not all girls are bitchy and fuck off type of attitude.
some girls are nice and do not want to feel bad for putting you down,
some do have boyfriends but may be looking for something else. not digging for sure the current relationship.
a lot of the girls i encounter do talk to me and are nice to me whether they do have boyfriends or not
but either i get too drunk, i fuck up, or i just don't move it forward that i dissipate the attraction i started with.

do not think this too much. girls are emotional as longest you get in touch with their emotions
they will be more curious about you.

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1, 2, and 3 can all be correct.

Its likely that you started off cool, but slowly but surely dwindled into being an emotional burden. Especially based off the way you asked for the number. It came across as if you don't have too many friends.

And your forum behavior is most reflective of the answer being 1..

However that means that you're not doing too bad. I'd just suggest you engage a bit more. On the forums and in personal. Your lack of feeling a need to do so when you come here to "ask" for things would clearly reflect why someone would behave this way.

Not sure what your friendships are like, but I personally wouldn't be your friend. You come in to get, not to give.. Who hands there number out to that guy?

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I think you are right.
I suspect at first she liked me because she is the one who continued the conversation. This is the beginning of the conversation:
me: I noticed you were checking me out
her: I was?
me: yeah, remember you were looking at me and you thought "that guy is so good looking?"
her: *giggle* WHERE ARE YOU FROM?
I mean SHE is the one who continued it. I didn't.

some questions about your post
what do you mean I am an "emotional burden"? what is an emotional burden?

I know the way I asked for the number was terrible, but it caught me off guard. her phone rang, she answered, got off the phone, then started leaving. How do you ask when she is in a hurry? oh, and I felt like a dumbass standing their while she was on the phone. what do you do when this happens? I just stood there and looked into the distance, not at her. is that good?

What do you mean I come in to get, not to give? I am not disagreeing with you, I just dont know what you mean. how do I give? I dont believe I have anything of value to give.

Emotional burdens are people who want things from others but they have no intention on bringing any value into the life of the person they want something from. They take, take, take and never give. This is what you call energy vampires. They're cool at first, but slowly but surely the become draining. Just being around them.

And if you believe you don't have anything of value to give that would be the root of the problem.

You have plenty to give, your perspective has just led you to not thinking so..

For example: You don't take into account human nature. These guys respond to your post on this forum and offer to help YOU out. They offer their free time, energy, and knowledge into improving the quality of YOUR life and how do you respond? 9 times out of 10 you don't say a damn thing. You just take their advice and run away with it.

Did you ever consider that someone giving advice would love for you to let them know whether they helped you or not? A simple "thank you" ; making another feel important or appreciated. Thats the root of building friendships.. It would be the equivalent to you telling funny ass jokes to a group and they just stared down at their phone the whole time and pretended they didn't hear it. But the thing is.. They found the joke funny, but they don't see how laughing is going to help you. They don't understand that their laugh only encourages you to tell me more jokes enhancing your ability to be funny.

You have plenty to give bart. That'd a false belief you have. You're basically saying that you feel worthless... And I know you don't think that way of yourself. But being around someone that feels worthless is completely draining. Its a complete burden emotionally. You have to carry them on your shoulders with your value. You have to lift them up or risk being pulled down by them. And thats a lot of work considering they have no intention on giving you anything in return because they don't even feel worth anything. Why not just hang out with or give your number to someone that can elevate you as you elevate them?

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Eddie,

I do appreciate all the help I get here. This forum has the most wise people I have ever come across. people here understand human nature better than anybody else. sometimes I come back to my posts and review the replies months later. really, this is the best education I have ever gotten. and it's not even about sex and women, it's about improving my life in all aspects.

The reason I never say "thank you" is it would be redundant to go to every post, quote the poster, and say thank you. can you imagine how annoying that would be? plus, it would bump my post to the top for no reason, which I think is against forum etiquette.

anyway, I can assure you, you and other experienced posters here have helped me tremendously.

Of course they have bro and I know you appreciate it, because you keep coming back. But I'm sure they would like to know it. This isn't about YOU. The narcism can have big negative impact on your level of success. And I'm not necessarily suggesting you say thank you, but find creative ways to express your appreciation. Plenty of other posters do it.

If you can't see it now, you'll just have to learn later on in life.

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narcisism? really?
dude, I think I am the least narcisist person in the world.
Here is an example: I dont have a facebook account, I dont have instragram, no youtube, no twitter. because I think those sites are for narcisist people who want to post their pictures on there and be admired by the world.

wow, that's something new to me. How am I a narcisist?