I game in the nearest city and it's a small one. 50.5 thousand population. The picking has been slim. I'm a newbie and I mitigate myself to online and day game so that might be part of my dilemma... I give day gaming my best shot, I've overcame my fear of putting myself out there, and I get numbers sometimes. But the four I've gotten so far, two ignored me and the other two fizzled into nothing.. Isn't the idea in day game rather difficult? You have to go out and convince a girl with her own life and her own (most likely) very large social sphere to go on a date with you... Totally out of the blue.

If you saw the title of this thread and thought to yourself "Hell yeah, it's working for me!" Do tell what was the turning point for you? What was the most influential thing for you getting good at either day or online game? I've read "The Game" as well as "3% Man" and watched scores of RSD vids, mostly from Todd. I'm a 25 year old virgin and the only thing preventing me from giving up is the fact I CAN'T give up because it means certain failure. It's frustrating to say the least; if I'm getting attention/affection from a girl I find attractive... I'm at the strip club. I could have banged 30 different girls from POF by now but my attraction level for them was so low and I'm not going to FORCE myself to have sex with them for the sake of losing my virginity. There's this dude at work who always tries talking me into mating with fat ugly skanks, FUCK that.

The strip club in and of itself is a huge problem for me. I used to go there and get a stripper "girlfriend" and be in "love" with her. Now I just go to have fun either way I spend a lot of money.. Money I SHOULD be saving but it's my only recourse. Hell, I quit going for four months and tried gaming SO hard but it's been fruitless. It's like every night I'm left with the same abysmal decision: to go to the mall and strike out with women or go to the club and actually have decent time?.. All at a premium price of course.

I guess what I'm looking for is advice in general. If you have any sincere advice for a hard case newbie like myself please share. I look good! I work out and it's noticeable, I just don't know what to do!

Day game is not that much different from night game apart from the fact that there is usually less energy and sometimes time constraints if you are unable to instant date. With that said, the same game principles apply. If you want to improve your game and get results faster though, you should do more night game as there are more sets and logistics are usually better.

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