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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 11:16 pm 
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scenario: you approach a girl on the street and you feel like she is attracted to you. But when you ask for her number she won't give it to you and tries to get rid of you by saying something like "I am gonna let you go on your merry way"

but at the same time you KNOW she is attracted to you, you just know it. but there is just a hump that you cant get over.

well, this scenario happened to me today. I don't know what the problem was, maybe she thought I might be a stalker? she did say something like "but I don't know you..."
or maybe I didn't show enough value, I think I made it too easy for her.

In this scenario, when she says "go on your merry way" and you know there is attraction, how can you fix things? the problem is, if you stick around, you will look like a needy chump and if you leave, then you will never see her again.


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It's because you are just generating attraction but skipping rapport / comfort. Also don't forget the power of the insta-date. Just grab a coffee with her and you'll have no trouble building rapport.

How long are you in set before going for the number?


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Agreed basically. I'll also add you might not be getting the girls to qualify themselves to you either. I usually do this between attraction and comfort/rapport.

It's a common mistake guys make who try to just rely on pure attraction.

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It's because you are just generating attraction but skipping rapport / comfort. Also don't forget the power of the insta-date. Just grab a coffee with her and you'll have no trouble building rapport.

How long are you in set before going for the number?
usually within the first 2 minutes. I know it's not good but I cant resist. probably because I have nothing to say so I have no choice but to go for the number.


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Some girls just say automatically.

I used to do it to girls when I was kid in school even though I secretly liked them. Just tell them to get their phone out and persist a little. If she likes you mind the pressure. This could be your unique thing about to why she banged you.

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It's because you are just generating attraction but skipping rapport / comfort. Also don't forget the power of the insta-date. Just grab a coffee with her and you'll have no trouble building rapport.

How long are you in set before going for the number?
usually within the first 2 minutes. I know it's not good but I cant resist. probably because I have nothing to say so I have no choice but to go for the number.

If you have nothing to say to the girl after two minutes how the fuck are you going to go on a date with her and have shit to say? Wouldn't that be a great reason not to give a guy you are attracted to your number? He didn;'t have shit to say after two minutes. Giving your number would be a waste of time. It would just be giving you an outlet to hide behind a wall of text and cell phone comfort so you can regroup enough energy and confidence to communicate with her.

you're simply not approaching nearly enough. Thats all it is.

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It's because you are just generating attraction but skipping rapport / comfort. Also don't forget the power of the insta-date. Just grab a coffee with her and you'll have no trouble building rapport.

How long are you in set before going for the number?
usually within the first 2 minutes. I know it's not good but I cant resist. probably because I have nothing to say so I have no choice but to go for the number.

If you have nothing to say to the girl after two minutes how the fuck are you going to go on a date with her and have shit to say? Wouldn't that be a great reason not to give a guy you are attracted to your number? He didn;'t have shit to say after two minutes. Giving your number would be a waste of time. It would just be giving you an outlet to hide behind a wall of text and cell phone comfort so you can regroup enough energy and confidence to communicate with her.

you're simply not approaching nearly enough. Thats all it is.
you're right.


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Approaching more will afford you more experiences with talking.

The thing is you'll keep improvising and the progress will be slow and painful.

I suggest you read something on extending a conversation forever and then practice that skill in your interactions. You will progress 1000x faster when you apply direction to your training instead of shooting at the hip.

Here's a post I made on this exact thing.

hello-guys-vt179056.html
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Hey my man no worries. Here is a simple trick to keep a conversation going forever.

Called conversational threading. If someone says a sentence there are a few subjects in it or at least 1. This is just basic English you know subjects and predicates all that stuff you learned in elementary school.

You take one of those and just say make a statement off of it giving the other person at least 3 positive ways they can take it. Then what ever they say back will have more subjects in it and you can jump off one of those.

After you run a thread it's course or can't come up with something you can always double back and pick any of the subjects you left alone.

Example: After you run a thread it's course you can always double back and pick any of the subjects you left alone.

I take the word thread out of that last sentence: "Yeah threads are a great way to communicate with people you don't know."

I take the word communicate: "Communication is key to life: I find that the only way you can make money in this world is through communication."

I take the word money: "The best ways to make money in this world is to set up a passive income and obtain financial freedom."

I take the word passive and Invoke the spirit of Majikal: "Passive income is for pussies! You need aggressive income!"

I take to word income: "There are ways to expand your income by using aggressiveness to work towards the passive income."

I double back and grab "people you don't know": "I find the best way to establish that aggressive mindset needed for PU, is to practice convincing people you don't know to hand over their money to you willingly."

I take this point and expand it into a story: "I used to work as a door to door salesman. Every day I would put on my cleanest suit then go to an office where they would focus on boosting your talkative state. I would be pumped, then I would go out and viciously assault the city in order to put food on my table."

You see how easy this is? I just had a conversation with myself and I could have kept it going indefinitely. You can talk forever. The beauty of this skill is that it can be used with any type of style you run. You can tailor your talking points to what ever you learned from your Guru, you will just never run out of things to say.
Also, you DO need to add more comfort building in your set and not rely solely on attraction.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:33 am 
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Approaching more will afford you more experiences with talking.

The thing is you'll keep improvising and the progress will be slow and painful.

I suggest you read something on extending a conversation forever and then practice that skill in your interactions. You will progress 1000x faster when you apply direction to your training instead of shooting at the hip.

Here's a post I made on this exact thing.

hello-guys-vt179056.html
Quote:
Hey my man no worries. Here is a simple trick to keep a conversation going forever.

Called conversational threading. If someone says a sentence there are a few subjects in it or at least 1. This is just basic English you know subjects and predicates all that stuff you learned in elementary school.

You take one of those and just say make a statement off of it giving the other person at least 3 positive ways they can take it. Then what ever they say back will have more subjects in it and you can jump off one of those.

After you run a thread it's course or can't come up with something you can always double back and pick any of the subjects you left alone.

Example: After you run a thread it's course you can always double back and pick any of the subjects you left alone.

I take the word thread out of that last sentence: "Yeah threads are a great way to communicate with people you don't know."

I take the word communicate: "Communication is key to life: I find that the only way you can make money in this world is through communication."

I take the word money: "The best ways to make money in this world is to set up a passive income and obtain financial freedom."

I take the word passive and Invoke the spirit of Majikal: "Passive income is for pussies! You need aggressive income!"

I take to word income: "There are ways to expand your income by using aggressiveness to work towards the passive income."

I double back and grab "people you don't know": "I find the best way to establish that aggressive mindset needed for PU, is to practice convincing people you don't know to hand over their money to you willingly."

I take this point and expand it into a story: "I used to work as a door to door salesman. Every day I would put on my cleanest suit then go to an office where they would focus on boosting your talkative state. I would be pumped, then I would go out and viciously assault the city in order to put food on my table."

You see how easy this is? I just had a conversation with myself and I could have kept it going indefinitely. You can talk forever. The beauty of this skill is that it can be used with any type of style you run. You can tailor your talking points to what ever you learned from your Guru, you will just never run out of things to say.
Also, you DO need to add more comfort building in your set and not rely solely on attraction.
great, thanks. PS I saw the same girl today and I will post how it went later on. I will need some guidance where to go from here.


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