had a text from her lets just be friends for now yeah? so might just reply with my dirty reply, if thats the friend you have in mind...

Some of the feedback here makes no sense in my opinion. This whole notion of having to f-close a girl on the first date is pretty ridiculous. You did more than escalate on the first date, as it got rather sexual between the two of you short of fucking which already steered you away from friend zone territory. The fact that she brought up her ex/current boyfriend however makes it clear that you should steer off and look for someone with less baggage, having been through the experience several times, i can assure you that ist not worth the hassle…look elsewhere.

Don't do that.
Context. She is naked, and telling him she's never been so turned on.
You don't have to a first date. When she's not naked and begging you to fuck her. When she is, you have to. Not complicated.

His whole "She stopped taking birth control" thing that he keeps repeating as to why he didn't is what makes no sense. He's repeated it like three times. I still have no idea how that is supposed to make sense. Is he planning to text her "Hey, please start taking birth control for next two weeks, so I can come over and shag you?". Otherwise, he's planning to *now* fuck her while not on birth control, but couldn't the other day.
That makes literally no sense at all. None. But he's repeated it three times.

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i still disagree. if he would have reacted by rolling off her and suggesting a game of chess with crackers, well yes, then she might start doubting herself or him and attraction will fade, possibly to the point that she doesnt want to see him again. but as long as he stayed sexual with her whilst being naked and did something enjoyable for her in a sexual context and maintained a sexual frame without pertaining to any relationship/ we need to wait bs, then its not a matter of sticking cock in or not..

I've seen about 50 threads exactly like this one before. He gets her fully ready for sex, backs out, and then she never wants to see him again.
This is not some uncommon and special case. It's very common. It's probably the single most common problem that I see here, among guys who are actually going out and taking women home.

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and in 99% of these mentioned cases the guy does not escalate and comes of as really boring, asexual in terms of what he was doing with the girl, which doesnt seem to be the case here.

No more posts now.

In real life the situation has closure and now on here.. until i text her randomly in a few months time and we have sex then. BTW she was keen, initiating text,date, everything, showing more interest than me in her, after the 1st date so the 1st date didn't turn her off!

Whether you f close or not, you gotta keep momentum between dates. You met and took the fun/escalation fast then cut contact for a couple of weeks between dates 1 and 2. Yes, it was shitty timing because she was busy for 2 weeks and sometimes the timing is what fucks it up. But cutting the contact between this time was a bad move. She's not gonna hold on to horniness for 2 weeks. I disagree with V a bit because I think it was salvage able after not having sex. But his point is correct. If you get a girl in your bed the first night...you most likely HAVE to fuck her. Because when you move quick and don't she thinks your a pussy or she gets remorse for moving quick and will drop you.

this confirms my point..this whole notion of having to stick something in is rather absurd...as a matter of fact, people who think that fucking is the most climatic sexual act, might want to revise their skills..

His skills were so amazing, and his analysis about how into him she was, so correct, that one wonders how everything fell apart.
Crazy bitch?

There we go. Crazy bitch.

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it probably fell apart due to the events after the first night

yeah no point this going on now, everything has been said, im sure i made mistakes all along the way so you dont need to tell me

Someone mentioned above "Is not about sex on the first night" blah blah "Is not about pushing for the f close"

Okay let me paint a picture for those with downsyndrome here

Game is common sense

IS NOT ABOUT SEX

IS ABOUT BEING A MAN

What does a man do?

A man smells when a girl wants to be fucked.

And fucks her.

A man courts, excites, shows girl good time, does as he pleases with her consent of course but knows how to steer the girl into a wonderful time.

A girls job is to follow and NEGLECT a LOSER or "LESSER MAN" specially a girl of QUALITY.

If you are being a MAN, you will get MOST girls you want.

If you're being a bitch, you simply wont.

Here's the problem: MOST GUYS CANNOT BE MEN

Society has conditioned US to be BITCHES, why do you think the avarage guy doesnt fuck more than 9 girls in a life time if even. And why do you think only 1% of guys fuck most of the girls?

Welcome to the Pick Up Community, the movement that is introducing sexual freedom to the world today.

In other words, here you learn how to be a man.

*I rest my case*

lol

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so this girl is still texting me, even after i criticized her and was rude about her friend and she LJBFs me. last texts read and referring to gandhi as you do, me- a crowd pleaser..he pleased billions, her- an attractive trait. Why is she still texting me back? i asked her to come over today, she didnt ignore the question she said im seeing a play, she says shes not in a position to make decisions and is not looking for a rebound..but what about just a good old fuck

her last text, an attractive trait, why is she continuing to text back? after all these fuck ups iv made. Should i just say, in future if ever want to want to come to mine and watch a horror film...i have a supply so you're welcome. im seeing her next sunday so could wait until after then so wouldn't have anything to lose...shes confusing me, i think she wants to fuck but a bit annoyed it didnt quite happen before, so i need to be make it clear, i have a supply. No more bashing, im looking just for advice, the bashing is useless

Dude, if you keep talking about this girl im going to throw up.

Here's the thing, YOU HAVE ONITIS.

Getting girls is not THIS complicated.

You know what i do to girls like that?

3 times rule. And she's LUCKY if i get to 3.

Useually i cut bitches off the first time (due to my experience in knowing where is going to end up)

And experience says DONT INVEST THIS MUCH THOUGHT AND EMOTION on a bitch who acting retarded or not the way i want.

Here's what you CAN do and what i useually do, specially if i have rapport built like you do.

Ill try as much as i want as long as it doesnt bother me, once it starts feeling like she's playing GAMES and is not fun anymore because it confuses me, I MOVE THE FUCK ON.

Maybe ONE DAY ill send her a quick little hook text IF I WANT TO , and then try and go for the meet up

BUT HERES THE KEY: THIS MUST BE LOW INVESTMENT

I REPEAT, IF DOING THIS IS NOT FUN FOR YOU, DONT TEXT HER.

The minute you feel like a fucking confused dog chasing after a girl is the minute YOU LOSE.

Pick up is not this complicated. And i garantee you and every guy out there, its not worth putting this much effort on a girl.

In the end the reward isnt worth it.

WHen theres girls out there who are more streight forward and HOTTER and NICER

Your problem is ONITIS.

Get more fucking girls.

*Peace*

And if i didnt make myself clear, let me round this up

1.You can keep texting her if its fun for you and you dont care, you've got nothing to lose.

2.Move the fuck on if is not fun and your overly invested.

3.Get more girls.

4. If i bitch plays games and you notice she's playing games or confusing you, MOVE ON. Unless you want to play and waste valueble fucking time with her immature retarded ass.

5. I garantee you most girls are streight forward and play no games if you dont play games.

6. Stick to the 3 times rule.

7. and here's the FINAL KEY : IF YOUR NOT HAVING FUN INTERACTING WITH HER, MOVE ON ! She's not worth your effort.

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