Hey, 1st date was a few days ago, went back to hers,both very horny but sex wasn't convenient. Been texting a few texts everyday since, all initiated by her. Arranged a 2nd date in just over a week.

What advice can i get for any texting/texts to escalate the sexual tension before next meet, it's there but want to amp it up to the max until she pops, then any advice for 2nd date about escalating tension via any touching etc, we'll be sitting it an audience.

If you already set up the date don't send her a text. Keep busy. If she sends you something don't answer it right away. Talk about how you are busy and you will text her on the day you all get together.

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She's been playing games via text, she'd like criticize me for not texting back then i ended telling her how i cant stop thinking her and that she should stop texting me because i said i want her in person and not as a text buddy- which im pretty annoyed and regret I went with being so open, then she'd text back saying just messing and be playful. Now next time she texts I'll say can't now, talk next week but the thing is, she's already got the upper hand as i slipped up being honest so somehow i need to switch it up so im in the position of power, get me?? Freezes her out can do that suppose but when we meet up she'll think she has me in her pocket...which i don't want

You're not freezing her out. You have a date planned already. Nothing you do between now and then will help you. It will only cause openings for you to fuck up like you've admittedly done already. Just relax and follow my advice. If you keep texting her back and forth and confessing your love she is liable to flake on you

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1. Stop texting. Don't get caught up in this stuff. In order to do this, you have to be serious about it. Alot of girls will give you shit for not texting them back. THATS A GOOD THING. If they weren't in to you, they wouldn't give a crap if you never responded. Instead she's sending you a big message saying "hey pay attention to me!". And the way you should respond? I'll pay attention to you when we meet up. You shouldn't get off on making a girl happy over text. You should get off on having a good time with her in person. Also, by not falling in to this "stop ignoring me" crap, you aren't falling for any tests. She might be doing that just to see if you really are busy or if she can get you into being a doting little bf with no balls.

Find hobbies, get serious about school or work, and dedicate your time to them. In your free time, enjoy being with girls. In person. Not texting. When I tell a girl I'm too busy to text, I'm being serious. I don't have alot of off time, and when I do, I'll be damned if I'm going to spend it typing up a message to her about bullshit.

Her: You're not responding fast enough!
You: I'm busy at work. If you're really bored go and buy a new dress for when we go out Friday I'll hit you up later

That's the kind of responses I send out. It's fun and playful, reminds her of the plans to meet up, etc. And when I text that, it's because I really am busy.

2. If you're at a quiet show in an audience, use it as an excuse to constantly whisper in her ear. Lean over and whisper that she smells so good and stuff like that. Drives them crazy. If it's like a loud concert, lean over and get really close and say it just loud enough that she can hear it. You can say the same thing. If she's dancing to the music you can make a comment about how you love girls that can dance because they are fun in bed. Just go for as much escalation as you can get away with. She's obviously in to you. So act like it's completely normal and go for it.

I'm a bit confused. It sounds like you want a hookup thing but you're playing it both ways. If she's down for just casually hooking up what's up with the waiting 1-2 weeks thing? And if she's down why do the audience thing? I mean if the lay isn't too guaranteed, I don't know what planning a serious date 2 weeks away is for. And I don't get it she's not down to fuck what not texting her is going to help. If she'll have sex with you why the extra stuff? And if you're going to the extra stuff why cut back the texting in that case? I can't really say properly my thoughts here

I don't understand your reply Neo.

The situation is he had a date, but couldn't fuck for some unknown reason. So he scheduled another date a week later. He wants to make her hot over the text during the week leading up to the date in order to make her so hot that she literally jumps all over him when it's time to meet up.

He is misguided. Our advice is that since he has the date set up already there is no point in communicating with her further until the date arrives. Further communication only leaves him vulnerable to tripping land mines that would cause her to lose interest.

He has not slept with this girl yet so he is still in that "potential" group. No matter what signals she has given him. He can disqualify himself texting back and forth with her during this period before the date. He won't disqualify himself if he stops the contact and have her look forward to interacting with him on the date.

It's pretty black and white.

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Hey Fudge...the confusion comes from the next date being a week away and him taking her somewhere that is bad logistically for sexual tension. I mean...I won't take a girl I'm only trying to fuck to the Opera or something with an audience. I probably won't text her alot but I won't take her to romantic bf stuff. And I won't plan something for a girl I'm just trying to fuck. So to me it sounds like treating a girl like a more than fucking option, yet not contacting her as if she were just a fuck option. And if the lay is unsure where OP needs to build sexual tensions as he stated, I'd worry more about lmr from lack of contact and comfort over 2 weeks. So if she's down to fuck fine..just wait, get drinks at your place. If she's not fully down yet, work on some comfort, not pulling back. Hope that makes sense or someone can see what I'm saying.

Oh I see what your saying. I didn't see the part about the date and audience thing.

Your advice is solid, it's up to him to stay congruent.

He can still ignore her and go on the romance date. It won't hurt things.

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Thanks everyone. I have what I need. We're done.

2nd date was last night, i could tell she was nervous, constantly going to the toilet, biting nails, after watching this film event head to the bar and she sees a guy she knows, not much one one one interaction, he clearly interested in her, flirty jokes, a fucking annoying actor guy, a bit of spark between them, i decide no to try and out do him and impress her in a needy way so ignore them and engage in deep conversation with someone else.

After wards walking back, go to kiss to say bye, she turns away saying not yet, texts me 30 mins after saying bye 'you're a nice guy, you deserve someone special', me-you make me smile, thats what i want, you're deserving,her-but i love someone else,me-why come out on the dates,her-i dunno, il be more careful,me-i wasn't looking for anything heavy,just to hang out,it was fun on the 1st date,her-i know, i had fun too,me-then it can happen again..no reply..me-meet me again, it doesn't have to have big deep meaning, not everything has to make sense, she hasn't responded, O,k from her sitting naked on top of me saying she'd never been so turned on to that- where have i gone wrong? can i reel her back in? So fucking hate..nice

So much to say... not sure where to start lol

Well its the only way im gonna learn so start somewhere

You disregarded my advice and lost it. You mucked around, played it nice with the film event and bar and stopped turning her on. You built some tension on the first date, then you let it die. Warned you dude. You lost it the moment you waited 2 weeks to take a chick to a place where you couldnt flirt or escalate.

I never gave advice on the timeline. He couldn't push the date ahead though Neo, it was already set.

Since you didn't fuck her you honestly should have set the date as soon as possible, the next day wouldn't even be bad in this situation.

Now, as for the date.

It appears to me that you had a tone of hands off conversation. Where you kino escalating during the date to get her used to the touch building up to hair neck and face before you tried to kiss her? How "touchy" were you? Women have said I'm a touchy person, but they see me touching guys as well and realize it's just part of my personality. I don't touch guys in sexual ways, but I use the friendly stuff. The same friendly stuff I use on women to build up to the sexual stuff.

Then you allowed some dude she knew to come and flirt with her while you were on a date with her, instead of pulling her ass away and back into your frame. It's disrespectful, she knew what was up and lost respect for you for not claiming her. All you had to do was take her by the hand and move her to another location, but you sort of made it a competition by talking to another girl while she was talking to another guy.

How come "sex wasn't convenient" in the first message, and "not yet" when you go for a kiss? That seems in-congruent. Did you not kiss her the first time?

Why Neo should have told you plainly... Going on a romantic date where you sit and watch a movie/play for a long period of time is not conducive to sex. Unless you are using sexual tension and kino through the event. You did good by not contacting her because she didn't flake on you. It worked. She gave you a shot with the date. You screwed up on the date.

Take these as a lesson learned. TOUCH WOMEN, CLAIM THEM. Don't text after you've set up a date to ensure she attends. You played it nice. There is no room for that in this game. Don't take women on romantic long dates if you intend to fuck them.

Get Vin Dicarlo's escalation ladder. Use it in your next interaction.

My advice. She has entered what we call the damaged zone. A true player does not do damage control, but does the thing you half did during the date. Talk to other women. You should have just went all in with that other woman and gotten her number and set up a date with her.

Go get another woman and do everything right from the beginning.

If you want to do damage control... Try waiting 7 - 14 days to let time heal the wounds you made. Then you can try again and she may give you a clean slate if she isn't seeing someone. When you try again don't text her just to say hi and kiss ass with sweet comments like "you're enough". Text in a fun flirty way to get her to laugh, then arrange a date and don't text her again. In one text chain. If she resists don't worry about it because you have been gaming women in the mean time right?

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