So of the guys you've met on free tour, any of them managing 100+ in a year?
I've already met guys who can do a few dozen. Learned about as much as I can from them. But huge numbers would indicate they're doing *something* different and worth learning from.

About the prostitute. A business colleague and I were out for lunch and he tells me about this gorgeous escort he had been with a few weeks earlier. Pulls out his phone and shows me a picture. This girl is a spitting image of Sarah Michelle Gellar from the frist few seasons of Buffy. That was my one celebrity crush growing up, and I was immediately sold. He gave me an invite for the linkedin group for her agency and it wasn't bad on price at all. All things considered, it went better than I had expected. She looked just as good as the pictures, and while generally dumb, she was very sexual. I had heard plenty of stories about so-so escorts, but she seemed quite into it(or she was a very good actress). As good as the experience could have gone, I think, but still suffers from all of the same problems as a ONS.

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My brother introduced me to the back-page services around October. I have a strong thing against paying for vag. Here is a trick I learned from David D's online dating program. (Most of that program s pure garbage btw, but there were 1 or 2 good nuggets I added to my own system.)

On Halloween I went to a club and met the promoter for the night. (more details on this in my field report)

He agreed to let me bring women to the club and put me on a guest list to get in free, with wrist bands for free drinks before 12.

I went on backpage and started inviting the escorts to my party. It was a mass marketing strategy. I grabbed all of the numbers of the hottest women and sent them a text with the invite explaining how I wasn't going to pay them shit, but it was an invite to a party where they could get free drinks and probably network with future clients. Most got angry... Some agreed, some asked who I was and opened a doorway to gaming them. I used methods in gamblers 43 text program. I got one to agree to come over to my place and kick it for free.

She was bored, no clients were calling her at the moment, and I had some nice wine and made her hot over the texting. If you do this make sure not to contact any services that have like multiple girls listed, because those probably have pimps, enforcers, or generally bad underground dudes you don't want to fuck with.

I had no intention of doing this, in fact the party invite was real. It was just something I stumbled upon that can be done.

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Yeah, this was a one time thing for that specific girl. I wasn't interested in a random escort.

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No, I probably would have done the same thing if I found an escort that looks like a celeb crush of mine. Not knocking you in the least V. It dawned on me that it would work because female escorts have strong indications of being a tji psychology. First off she doesn't mind sleeping with someone fast, she is comfortable going over strange men's houses, and she still probably fantasizes of some guy coming along and saving her.

I could probably think up a fake party and convince another one to come over right now for free. I'm not though, I have to get back to work on selling an eBook for 154.99.

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Yes but, I would not take that from either face value or what someone said on a forum. I have traveled with a few who would bang a dozen girls in a week on a seven day vacation but, I have found a lot of really good guys through travel. I never met JMLUV in Vegas who was 200+ in a year or less. The guy was banging everything and flooding the forum with pics with him and hot or pretty women with nudes. Keep in mind, he was in Vegas, and women were usually on vacation.
Hundreds of girls in a year is a lot of work and the reason why guys like JMLUV, ambiguity, Distantlight, Chinaboy could get abundance was due to 1) being a instructors assistant 2) attractiveness in Ambi case 3) just being a cool guy with a great lifestyle (high value). I do not think it is even healthy to slam that many girls.
I think if you did more spam approaching, you would not care for escorts or any of that crap. Quite frankly, I would feel like I failed as a man in life if I were to go down that dark path. Going back to kills and forum PU guys, I have only ever seen the crazy sociopath and psycho like guys similar to Patrick Bateman coming off of rsdnation like users I mentioned. JMLUV was again pretty rapey. Chinaboy was chodey... soft spoken, very asian, very beta, and he changed being Alexanders assistant. Julien was Tylers assistant which translates to instructor bitch for free but, they got to take something away from it. Mystery had Tyler as an assistant. It definitely helped having a mentor but, few are giving this kind of dedication to anything in their life.

There are a lot of weird guys in PU and I suspect most have some mental health issues. Then again, I must say, I met some pretty cool guys from PU. Not everyone in PU is rapey like Jmluv.

Quantifying your sex live is counter productive, to whoever is talking about 200 lays a year...http://postmasculine.com/pickup-artist


For a dude that wants to devote the time to have 200 lays a year, he would pretty much have to eat sleep and S#$%$H@#$%I#$%T Pick up 24/7 how is that attractive, your whole life devoted to fucking women is as far as healthy and attractive lifestyle i wish on anybody, and has multiple negative consequences...

as long as you have the skill set to fuck at least 1 in 10 women, you should be good enough, 1-5 super elite...

The question is how much time you want to devote to picking up women...

A dude proclaiming he fucked 200 women in a year (is probably lying anyways)

A rich man does not have to constantly say he is rich, and most guys with high lay count, do not really keep track...

The exception maybe my friend sex addict, who had a bet, and it is an estimate anyways, he stop counting as well...

200 girls a year also the quality of the women suffers...

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So true!

This is where you step up and show you have nothing to lose by being fearless and take initiative and action without any regrets. You didn't lose if you don’t get the girl or the interview, because it’s their loss, not yours. That’s the way it must be pitched, they must feel like they will gain everything having you and lose everything if they don’t. But you must be the one doing the approving and validating when you approach them not the other way around. They must be qualified and interviewed by you and if they don’t meet your standards, then you reject them instead of them disapproving you. So, if they act bitchy then tell them, “You’re Fired!”

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Da, why are you talking about basements? I have my own apartment. When have I ever said anything about a basement?...

I took a picture in that thread that has my 3d projector and screen on the wall. Yes, I do want money to fall in my lap without having to trade my time for it. I also like making other aspects of my life as effortless as possible. Technically women already fall in my lap. I could just rely on all the women I pull from the internet and go on as many dates as I want, but I took time to go out and do daygame and nightgame just to improve.

I don't see bum rushing an unsuspecting girl as a means for improving. I do see it a huge waste of time with a low return on investment.

Speaking of the real principles of the game. After you are able to get women through approaching them on the streets, in clubs grocery stores, or wherever, and create the most advanced online dating conversion funnel in the world: you would be best severed handling the value aspects of game next. That's another thing that is truly lacking in the PU community. Nobody teaches how to create real, tangible value and status in your own life. Assets like passive income flows, and financial freedom are extremely attractive to women.

Chief even writes about it in his book. He calls it the lowest level of attraction, but takes time to dedicate a chapter to it since it is still valuable. After handling your style, health/fitness, the thing you use to get women in person, and the thing you use to get women on the internet, your next step should be handling the value/status/power aspects of attraction.

TO the readers who are considering taking this advice. This is the point where you will start to get the most haters. Jealousy is always directed upwards, and if you let a bunch of randoms in on your plans and actions like using an internet forum to chronicle the journey - expect snide little side comments that have no basis in reality like someone pulling basement out of their ass.

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For sure. I think 200kills in a year is disgusting, not safe, and counter productive. Then again, JMLUV populated rsdnation full of posts with the vegas crew consisting of countless lay counts. I found him a bit rapey and despite his "success" with pulling, something about him seemed a bit weird. I do not doubt he is a sociopath. What would possess a man to obsess over getting laid that many times could not be possibly healthy.
Interestingly, this thread is from a fellow rsd forum member, and the response is to shit on his experience. The thing is that, I have found more better players and PUAs on that forum then any other forum who were not JMLUV, ambiguity, chinnaboy, distantlight or ilb. Typically, those who did well were former assistants or naturally ladies man types. Others just picked up on social cues of women and improved. Others were like Madison, a guy who was pretty good, no instructor but, competent and fairy consistent. he obsessed a fair bit of PU, became Jeffs assistant, and then disappeared all together. Likely he is marred or has kids.
That is a 10% ratio bro. Even Julien said that is ridiculous to be at that level and he is likely the current best instructor there regardless of what he advocates and the moral implications.
Exactly but, we again have guys shitting on a company who clearly has some of the best forum users and members. Interestingly, those shitting on that company are not Zyzz, yaboydave or anybody currently doing PU. It is ridiculous.
Read the link dude. Not sure what Zyzz or Yaboydaves kill count but, it was well documented that they nailed tons of girls. What was so impressive about JMLUV and his ability to pull pretty women was that, he was several deviations below the women maybe a 4 or 5 at best. Look at the pics or just search his username. Due to him being rapey, rsdnation removed all his posts to prevent liability not to mention, all the JB shit the past year.
The nuthugging of JMLUV got annoying but, most suck with women and even more so with PU.
I think this is the assumption. I guarantee JMLUV had mental health issues as 200kills is not normal but, everyone has a opinion on PU. The reality is that, very few have a opinion worth listening to since they do not go out or leave their home this year. This is the average PU guy. Doesn't even approach or leave his house but, he has a opinion on rsd and a theory posted from his mommy's basement. Typical.

Da, thank you for the hate. Keep it coming I love it.

To everyone else. These guys talk about me not going out as if this wasn't something I chose to do in order to focus my time on getting money. I do not recommend you doing this until you have other areas of your life mastered. One being the ability to get women on queue.

If you want to bypass this and just get a ton of women without going out and "sarging" then master online dating like I have. I've written a post on the 4 programs you should go through to create the document.

Da doesn't have an online dating template document that pulls women off the internet on a daily basis. In his reality it seems the only way to get women is to beat the streets. It's a new age Da how old are you? In your 30s-40s I take it. How many passive income streams do you have? Are you trying to get any? How often can you get a woman from an online dating website on a date? Have you ever had a date off an online dating website? In internet marketing there is a term for sending letters through the mail called snailmail. I'll say you practice snailgame son!

Don't be jealous because I can pull up a word doc and send a bunch of copy paste messages and get more women in a day than you can in a week.

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You're misunderstand this situation over here. This is not something I have been doing for years.

I've been in my apartment since January 1st. New years resolution GET RICH! Prior to that, clubs, bars, mall game with wings off this forum, VIP tables, Trips to New york to see Dave Chapelle's return show, I've got the T-shirt that says I was there...want a pick of me holding the shirt with a sign that says fudge_88? Also, of course...fucking women I've approached via a non internet based medium...To much fucking playing. Time waste.

The real principles of game is to have all of the affairs in your life in order. One huge one is money. Lets be real... If you have a bunch of money a bunch of women comes with the shit. I can spend 80 hours a week hitting streets and "sarging" or I can spend those 80 hours securing my future which is a much more attractive quality to women.

The secure man. It resonates in out body language. We don't need to project sexuality or power because it's there naturally from...wait for it...REAL PRINCIPLES, and real results that you have gotten in your life.

There is a book called the Attraction Arsenal written b a cool guy on this forum that I recommend everyone take a look into. It's only 9 bucks. The first attraction trigger listed in the book is value. A valuable man is an attractive man. A man who can gather resources and has others depending on him is an attractive man.

You may enjoy working that 9-5 right now, but when you're 50 and the job is bsing with your retirement plan I hope you remember this post.

Right now it is 100% balls to the wall value based game I am after. It will allow get at a higher tier of woman. If you ever wanted to get one of your celeb crushes. My advice to you. Learn legit value based game. Elevate your value to a reasonable level then you will have a chance to approach her.

Why do you think no one teaches value based attraction? Most of the gurus are broke and can't teach people that shit. The ones who are rich don't know how because they got rich with a model that isn't transferable to their students. Well, everyone except the social pariah. Eben Pagan.

And his marketing advice is like his other stuff. A great starting point for the absolute beginner then you implement the stuff and find out it doesn't work how he said it would in real life, and you have to reach out to experts who refine you off the basic stuff he presents. Anyway, if you want to learn value based game follow my building an attractive lifestyle thread. Many of the posts are...out there. just to give you a heads up. You can learn vicariously through my trail and error as I get this money.

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Hey fudge, I don't think guys like Da are just hating on you...tbh some of your stuff is pretty far out there. So they're skeptical. I don't know much about passive income and that stuff so it all sounds alien to me. Maybe your system works or can work, I don't know and I'm not educated in the matter enough to know the plausibility. From what I saw, you live on your own near ATL station so you must at least have a decent enough income from what you do to sustain yourself. But it's not really hate the other guys are trying to do to you. Maybe give a piece of your method away as Chief did with his book?

As to not leaving your house, yeah that's kinda out there for me. But if you're focused on something, while I find it unhealhthy long term...I kinda get it. Maybe scale it back a bit though? Some guys devote a year to PU and spam approach. Some devote a couple years to hit the gym, go to work and eat right to get ripped. Maybe they're all neglecting certain parts of their lives but I see it no worse than staying in and working all day. But respect for being honest, when you couldve just lied. Just dont see haters as anyone who may be skeptical.

Thanks Neo.

Of course it's out there, don't you see the quote in my sig? The thing about these skeptics is that I've never posted anything with the intent to impress people, or get fame or whatever. Case in point my book has a pen name on it. Monkey D. Luffy.

I'm just telling the truth. I've never asked for anyone to believe me. What they hell can I do with that? I don't even care about their opinions, nor have I asked for them. They just took it upon themselves to voice doubts or w.e.

This isn't some long term thing. I intend on having this shit done and automated within this month. Hell...today! I have the plan created from a mastermind group of Rich Internet marketers from over there on the warrior forum. I had to go through the same stuff over there that I've experienced here. TO get to the excellent people I had to weed through the average and mundane, and definitely burned a few bridges in the process.

I told warped this in the chat room. BTW this is also a real principle of the game IMO. Spread value to as many people as you can. If I make a post and 100 people read it. 99% don't believe the words, and 1 guy takes it as a jumping point and goes down the rabbit hole and changes his life. Perfect!

I just have hear the doubts of the other 99 that I don't even care about. So I call them haters because who asked them to go on rampages towards my credibility? They took that upon themselves with posts that weren't even directed towards them. It's clearly striking some sort of nerve otherwise they wouldn't say anything at all.

It's not my fault that I speak about my life and they end up feeling some type of way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KKbdErJkiY

The lesson here I want to impart on that 1 guy is this. When you start building an attractive lifestyle you will have stuff like this happen to you. Even if you don't take it to extremes like I do.

4 attractive principles:

1. Have solid intent behind your actions. 2. move with a laser targeted focus on your intent. 3. be unaffected by the state frictions of the world. which will cause 4. A transparent projection of your intent into the outside world.

State frictions:

1. Distractions (particularly subconscious mind distractions that are meant to keep you in a comfort zone and in the sea of sameness that you currently exist in) You have to train the subconsciousness like it is an entity of itself. When you feel it pulling you off the path, stop and snap back to reality.

2. Social conditioning...Be unaffected by other peoples opinions. Let other people have their opinions and forget about them. Let their doubts and their prejudices roll off you like water off a duck's back. (this is where those guys fall in regards to me.)

3. Intention violation - This is when you do something that goes against your intentions. Stand by your intentions and have core values and principles that are unbreakable. 3 of mine are honor, courage, and commitment that I learned in the Corps. Remember a man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.

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No. The mods and forum members love it when threads get detoured by a guy who outs himself as a keyboard warrior who does not leave his apartment this year but, goes on little tangents detouring threads with spam or nonsense. In ancient Rome, The Roman Empire had what was known as "decimation" where acts of cowardice was punished by death. Any act of cowardice by an army would result in decimation, that being the death of 1 out of every 10 men to ween away weakness. Instead, we live in a society that promotes cowardice, egg heads in lab coats with their theory or science despite no liability or anything at stake. We see the same with egg heads and so called academics telling us how we should workout despite not lifting weights themselves. I will take bro science over some egg head who does not even lift every time. This is the same type of shit that goes on in politics with some clown having everything to gain, nothing to lose, and lets listen to his opinion. America gives a government bail out fucking up the future generations due to debt and inflation meanwhile, CEOs are handed going away bonuses meanwhile, lives are ruined and the general public pays. This is prevalent in PU with companies who do not even do PU or pay actresses to look good. Typical cowardice.

Agreed. I think it is that some men chase women, get it, and realize something is still missing.

Exactly. If anybody remembers rsd natural tim, he broke off from PU, and is doing some con or get rich scheme. Spoke of a online user who used it and said it was great. Regardless, there is no get rich easy scheme. Sadly, our society promotes it as does the marketing that sells us garbage. PU is not meant to be easy. It is a complete lifestyle overhaul of bad habits, social conditions, beta male shaming, courtship rituals that put vagina on lay away if at all, gynocentrism, traditionalism all of which just fucks you up, and prevents success with women.
I got a inbox message from a mod with a warning this past month regarding flaming trolls and kjs. My choice of action is to not engage in convos with users who do not approach or even go out. Not worth the time but, this is common practice here and in most PU forums. The most ironic thing is that, most forums bash rsd yet, they seem to have the most successful forum users pulling ridiculous amounts of women. Then again, they promote spam approaching from abundance rather then the latter find your cherish.

Glad that mods are coming down on phaggotry in threads. Cheerio!