I am doing PU cause I do not want to pay for sex.

rather then field testing your opinion

you are assumptive in your conclusions. Rather than see a rsd free tour which again is free, you rather listen to what you hear from other people instead of actually knowing.

Difference between wisdom and knowledge is action. You do not have the action or the life experience to say rsd sucks or that spam approaching is not efficient because you do not do it.

Build an emotional connection through your hard throbbing cock.
Build trust and comfort by holding their hands and covertly rubbing your elbows on their nipples.

On the other hand you go and talk to girls who basically tell you they are interested before you open your mouth. Is there really even a discussion to be had here on which is better?

Build an emotional connection through your hard throbbing cock.
Build trust and comfort by holding their hands and covertly rubbing your elbows on their nipples.

Everything has opportunity cost. You spend time on it, you're paying for it. The other person may not be receiving money, but you are paying for it.

I wouldn't want to. I don't like ONS. Why would I try to get more?

Why do you assume you don't want to have sex with and marry a feminist activist Joe? You've never done it. You have no personal experience with it. You seem to take other people's accounts into consideration.

Why do you accept negative experiences with fat chicks, but then reject them from people who have first hand experience with RSD?

The same way you can look at a fat woman who looks like an angry man and know you do not want to fuck her(much less marry her), I can look at RSD's free material and see that they do not offer anything I want.

There are a lot of bad ideas that I have never field tested. Opening girls by hitting them with newspapers. Pretending to be gay. Apocalypse openers. AMOGing. Telling DHV stories. Learning magic tricks. Getting wasted before approaching. Telling a girl my "friend" thinks she's cute, and then telling her I'm my "friend" teehee. Flittering around the bar, collecting 10+ phone numbers in the night. Buying "pheromones" and standing 18 inches away from every random woman I meet, so she will be overwhelmed by my magical pixie dust.

If I wasted time, trying everything that someone suggests, I would be very busy, wasting a whole lot of time.

Everything has opportunity cost. You spend time on it, you're paying for it. The other person may not be receiving money, but you are paying for it.

I wouldn't want to. I don't like ONS. Why would I try to get more?

Why do you assume you don't want to have sex with and marry a feminist activist Joe? You've never done it. You have no personal experience with it. You seem to take other people's accounts into consideration.

Why do you accept negative experiences with fat chicks, but then reject them from people who have first hand experience with RSD?

The same way you can look at a fat woman who looks like an angry man and know you do not want to fuck her(much less marry her), I can look at RSD's free material and see that they do not offer anything I want.

There are a lot of bad ideas that I have never field tested. Opening girls by hitting them with newspapers. Pretending to be gay. Apocalypse openers. AMOGing. Telling DHV stories. Learning magic tricks. Getting wasted before approaching. Telling a girl my "friend" thinks she's cute, and then telling her I'm my "friend" teehee. Flittering around the bar, collecting 10+ phone numbers in the night. Buying "pheromones" and standing 18 inches away from every random woman I meet, so she will be overwhelmed by my magical pixie dust.

If I wasted time, trying everything that someone suggests, I would be very busy, wasting a whole lot of time.

You do not like it or you do not get them? Two different things. Serious question.

Nobody on this forum has gone on a 200+ kill streak the way JMLUV did the year after being Tylers assistant.

Build an emotional connection through your hard throbbing cock.
Build trust and comfort by holding their hands and covertly rubbing your elbows on their nipples.

I don't like them. For a number of reasons. I find that sex gets better with the same girl for at least the first dozen times, because you get better in tune with how to turn each other on. I do lose interest after a while, but it's at least 20+ times for me. I also hate sex with condoms. I find masturbation to be more pleasurable. Most girls aren't up for raw on a ONS and honestly, I'm not %100 sure about doing it anyway(if she lets me, she lets other guys). I'm pretty much not concerned about STDs, but there are mild limits. Finally, I like doing stuff like holding her after sex, randomly dropping by her place and surprising her, going out to do things like visit places I haven't been to yet.

Now I've also said, I prefer girls who are significantly better looking than me. Can I get ONS with the same level of girl(looks wise), I get into FWBs with? Not consistently, no. My girls are usually 2-3 points above me on an attractiveness scale, and you just can't do that consistently in ONS situations. I've never seen anyone who can.

I would be interested in seeing something from this man. Does he have a thread where he posts about this year, or any major contributions to the forums, etc?
I won't deny that a 200 lay year is impressive(assuming these were attractive women). I've never heard of anyone doing this before.

Another former RSD adherent John Mulvehill, 31, (handle: ‘JMULV’) was apparently far more successful in his quest to sleep with women. The self-described “elite player,” known for having t-shirts made to celebrate the notable milestone of bedding 150 women, and later 200, attributed his success to the RSD bootcamps he had attended and the lessons gleaned from company instructors.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... sites.html

the whole prostitution thing you been saying lately

as well as defending users who clearly do not go out begs many questions.

Horse shit. Many sluts will raw dog. That gang bang girl was down. The night before, the girl wanting children was more then down with no condom. There are tons of girls who treat their bodies like dump trucks.

I tried finding posts but due to his circumstances and being rapey, they pulled every post from him. Also, his buddies like Kong were good but not quite on his level of game were trying to capitalize on his popularity by linking their products which got them banned.

Only pic I found of him [img]http://i.imgur.com/NfYnEuR.jpg[/img

Search around. Somewhere, there is a collage of pics with women he puled, full nudes but, I will say again, he was quite rapey with girls.

There were others like distantlight, ambiguity, and Chinaboy. Cyrax was pretty good too. The most aggressive was JMLUV but, he was Tylers assistant and again very rapey.

Build an emotional connection through your hard throbbing cock.
Build trust and comfort by holding their hands and covertly rubbing your elbows on their nipples.

Yes, if you're just wanting lots of lays, there is no more efficient system.

I've used one prostitute in my life, and I will say, it was quite similar to the ONSs.

I've done this from the start. You're the one who thinks a man magically loses all knowledge of women, the moment he stops going out.

I have respected Neo from the start, and that doesn't change because he "stopped going out" - because he has a girlfriend.

I do not respect nor care to listen to people who do not go out. As I stated before, I do not care what people think nor do I seek validation. I believe you then called me a sociopath. I suppose only a sociopath would spam approach but, if the alternative is resorting to prostitution (ie paying women for sex) I will spam the fuck out of cold approach.

Sort of detouring myself here but, it sort of explains why you defend KK type of women and other trashy types. Moving on.
This is where our biggest disagreement lies. The fact that rather then go out and experience, find out what rsd is about or what ons is all about, you want to talk about what other people think and say. I personally do not give a fuck. It is unfair to expect every male to be Zyzz or Yaboydave. It is unfair to expect men to all be JMLUV from rsdnation with 200kills while being rapey. I do not rack up numbers like that nor will I ever and I wont care to be rapey. I searched his name and found something about rape with a person around the same age and name. Its a common name so, who knows? Julien was a former reject socially. Many of those who came into PU used it for the monetary purposes and fraudulently spammed their bullshit everywhere in the process. There are commercials warning young boys about women carrying hpv. This shit is disgusting but, women are passing that crap and worse around. I hooked up with a girl in her twenties who would refuse to use condoms. I settled for a blowie. Cold approach is great for that but, for finding a wife, it is ridiculous as is the legal and court system.
I do not doubt Tyler may happen to be a manipulative prick. I saw posts about guys requesting not to be filmed at free tour events and he laughed it off. Months later, the JB shit show happened and he was wrong dismissing the concerns. I am not saying everything they say or do is correct. It is a business so, anybody putting out content for monetary gain should raise eye brows and skepticism.
He was Tylers assistant. Now, you take Tyler who is below his level in everything from cognitive function, hair line, height, looks, and not being learning disabled (tyler stated he is), there must be something there. John M was his assistant for some period of time, got damn good, and just killed game. He took it too far though and paid the ultimate price however, he like Kong and a lot of those vegas crew guys were in early thirties. We all have time assuming we stick with it and we associate with the right people.

Are you familiar with Mike Sarantino? Check out his content. https://www.youtube.com/user/mjsartain/videosHe is damn good. Apparently, he is friends with Tyler but he takes a different approach. i want to go more his way with lifestyle rather than fall prey to low level thinking like misogyny or mgtow however, I still listen because there is truth.

I met a bunch of the guys from rsd, inner circle or just the nation. They would really reach out to help people. I do not recognize many usernames that frequent the forums. Honestly, I think most guys just want a gf and to move onto something easy in life like not going out. No jab.
Depends. Which event? free tour. No but (i will get to that). Hot seat no but (again). BC yes! Many of the instructors bring up each city leader of that local city inner circle. A lot of guys go out for beers, dinner, and instructors make appearances. Alexander made a appearance last time. Even some of the regulars come out but, like I said, not everyone is great. Ambiguity is like a ghost at this point. Distantlight disappeared too. Chinaboy requested himself to be removed. Power did the samething. Madison was Jeffy intern but, he disappeared. Likely got married or had a kid. I think they are all damn good. I think Alex is incredible having fuck closed a model. I can vouch for that. he is legit and if he were still around I would do his boot camp. Inbox me and I will fill you in.
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/408031?page=2

even former links are gone. same with chinaboy since he posted his pics, vids, and chodey crap online which will now effect his personal life. Agreed. A lot of guys helped me on my journey. JMLUV not so much. I found him weird, rapey, good at what he does but, like, at what cost? Ambiguity was helpful. Distantlight was too. Chinaboy too. What I found helpful was a Yaboydave pm. He said he was a foreveraloner at one time. He just changed his life. He made that decision. Personally, i think I would learn more from someone like that then anybody in PU including instructors. Still, being around natural ladies men is energizing but, hard to replicate because mostly the attention is from looks. Jmluv was the exception I have found in PU.

free tour, meet locals, inner circle guys, however, i still prefer to meet guys like dave who just get women rather then mental masturbate about PU.

Game sir does not increase while in relationships where you have vagina being spoon fed to you. A breakup will lead her to getting tag team, a train ran on her or just a series of ons with his cherish. I will repeat it; monogamy, ldr or any type of gf relationship does not improve game. Knowledge of women is what is on forums but, again, majority do not go out or use prostitutes as established here.

I do not respect nor care to listen to people who do not go out. As I stated before, I do not care what people think nor do I seek validation. I believe you then called me a sociopath. I suppose only a sociopath would spam approach but, if the alternative is resorting to prostitution (ie paying women for sex) I will spam the fuck out of cold approach.