Hey guys,

So after long research to find the best pua material out there, I came down to 3 options:

- 60 Years of Challenge
- Models by Mark Manson
- and 4 elements of Game by Rob Judge

I was wondering which one of these 3 would be best for a newbie to start off on? If you could explain each one and say why it would be best for me that would be great.

Thanks

Cant speak for the 3rd, but the first two both have their merits. Don't limit yourself to just one , try a bunch and see which parts resonate with you best.

Get them both models first, then 60

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So I end up buying all 3.

Think I will start off on the 4 elements. Apply some of what I learned from that & then move on to Models.

Thanks

Models is the only book i would recommend anyone to read about game. Its simple and to the point.

Then just go out and apply the knowledge.

Take it from a guy who's read every book out there. lol.

If i ever wrote a book it would be Models.

No tricks, no bullshit, 100% authenticity. Game at its most beautiful and purest form.

Music to my fucking ears

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Models is pretty good. You should focus more on just getting out there though, I found when I was learning game that you can suffer from information overload, most important part is to implement what you are reading and learn by doing. Just my opinion

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Focus on 60 YoC. 60 YoC argues why x method doesn't work and then explains why his method works and then explains in very clear language the hows with a bunch of examples.

Models is good for the affiliate marketers who earn commissions on the book. The problem with this book is that the author says something and then on the next paragraph or two he takes back what he said. The formula for this book's content is:

1 - 1 equals 0

Basically, the author is fence sitting on what works or what doesn't work. He's a good writer though. So the book is a great read although it's fundamentally CRAP for seduction.

I haven't read your third book yet so I cannot provide an objective opinion on it right now.

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Why do you as for advice and end up going with whatever you wanted in the first place...

Models first(inner game), then 60 yoc(outer game) that is all you need...

After depending on your niche you can expand, dancefloor, daygame,online etc.., models and 60 go along with each other no conflicting info.

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Thanks guys for the input

Much appreciated. Looks like i will start off with "Models", as many have recommended it.

Skills, I've seen a few of your videos on youtube, stumbled on it a while back... its good stuff man. Will definitely look into more of your material once i start learning outer game

i'm just curious though, Can anyone learn to dance well? I mean i don't really have that 'natural' rhythm. I love to dance even though i'm terrible at it lol.


Peace

Yea nobody was born "good" or "natural" at anything... People get good at _______ by repetition...

I learned to dance when i was older already(i believe 25 or so and i was horrible), thanks for the props...

P.s. if you have limited funds get models.

Affiliate marketing for Models only gets $15 dollars, there are millions of better affiliates that pay 10 times that amount... Models its solid cause it give the right mindsets...

60 yoc is good cause puts emphasis in "Sexual escalation" and "screening"

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