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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:07 am 
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Met a cute girl around campus 2 or 3 months ago, I recognized her from class so I approached, made small talk and we hit it off quickly. In no time we become good friends, but on our first of many times getting lunch she casually mentions that a bunch of guys hit on her but she has to turn them down because her life is too hectic for dating. Bummer, but she's a genuinely cool person so I still keep her around as a friend. During this time I develop kino and flirt in bold ways ("Nice skirt, it gives me a chubby") but she only laughs it off, and not even I really notice that as we spent more time together I began to really like her. 2 or 3 weeks ago I ask her out (the "too hectic"excuse was bullshit) and she tells me that she considers me her best friend, but just isn't attracted to me.

We've stayed great friends throughout this time, but we get into a lot of fights lately. I'm not the kind of guy to kiss a girl `s ass and lately there's been some tension between us though the thought of me leaving her as a friend nearly brings her to tears, so we always makeup quickly.

for some reason I'm really attached to this woman; if I wasn't id be off flirting (with intent) with other girls right now. Any advice at all in attracting her would be much appreciated.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:19 pm 
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she tells me that she considers me her best friend, but just isn't attracted to me.
This is about as clear as it gets.

She was doing you a favor here, man. She was being straight with you. Respect her for that.

Not sure what the issues are that you're fighting about, but if it's the fact she isn't attracted to you, let it go. Use her as a wing.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:27 pm 
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Not sure what the issues are that you're fighting about, but if it's the fact she isn't attracted to you, let it go. Use her as a wing.
Petty things, including the fact that it took weeks and my asking her for her to finally stop lying and be straight-up with me instead of being "nice".

So you're saying just give up on it? At this point there's no good way to build attraction and change her opinion of me?


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Met a cute girl around campus 2 or 3 months ago, I recognized her from class so I approached, made small talk and we hit it off quickly. In no time we become good friends, but on our first of many times getting lunch she casually mentions that a bunch of guys hit on her but she has to turn them down because her life is too hectic for dating. Bummer, but she's a genuinely cool person so I still keep her around as a friend. During this time I develop kino and flirt in bold ways ("Nice skirt, it gives me a chubby") but she only laughs it off, and not even I really notice that as we spent more time together I began to really like her. 2 or 3 weeks ago I ask her out (the "too hectic"excuse was bullshit) and she tells me that she considers me her best friend, but just isn't attracted to me.

We've stayed great friends throughout this time, but we get into a lot of fights lately. I'm not the kind of guy to kiss a girl `s ass and lately there's been some tension between us though the thought of me leaving her as a friend nearly brings her to tears, so we always makeup quickly.

for some reason I'm really attached to this woman; if I wasn't id be off flirting (with intent) with other girls right now. Any advice at all in attracting her would be much appreciated.
If she friend zoned you; whether you believe it on not you were kissing some ass. Maybe not as much as some others, but even a little ass kissing is still too much.

You have to disappear for a bit bro. Absence makes the heart grow fonder. Disappear for a while.. When she comes back, ignore her first two attempts. Women always try at least three times.. At least from my experience. And just let her know that your sexual attraction for her is to stronger, seeing her isn't good for YOU, no matter how much she may feel its good for her. Keep the convo short, end it, and she'll chase.

You have to be willing to LOSE any girl that you want to get. There is always one grand move, one risky maneuver that could cause a guy to lose the girl that comes with every deeply successful seduction.

Vanish and she'll go looking for you.

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The takeaway is good as Eddie suggested.

When you show up again though, be sexier with your clothing and accessories. Like men, women are very visual too. See that plunging neckline to accentuate a girl's cleavage? You can do the same. Wear a hanging shirt to get attention to your abs and cock. See those push up bras to make those boobies look firmer and bigger? Mick Jagger rolls up a sock and stuffs it in his underwear to simulate an erection. Rock stars who are good with women certainly can't go wrong. Even Slash wears shiny chains on his pants to accentuate his cock.

Then when you keep getting those very quick glances at your cock from her, act nonchalantly like you didn't notice and escalate hard. If the takeaway, sexual dressing, and hard escalation are not working for you, then just involve this friend for social proof and preselection.

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If she friend zoned you; whether you believe it on not you were kissing some ass. Maybe not as much as some others, but even a little ass kissing is still too much.

You have to disappear for a bit bro. Absence makes the heart grow fonder. Disappear for a while.. When she comes back, ignore her first two attempts. Women always try at least three times.. At least from my experience. And just let her know that your sexual attraction for her is to stronger, seeing her isn't good for YOU, no matter how much she may feel its good for her. Keep the convo short, end it, and she'll chase.

You have to be willing to LOSE any girl that you want to get. There is always one grand move, one risky maneuver that could cause a guy to lose the girl that comes with every deeply successful seduction.

Vanish and she'll go looking for you.
Solid advice, the only hard part though is that I have class with her every morning. My way of kissing ass is probably all the attention I give her (we sometimes just talk on the phone for 5 or 6 hours), I can work on this by not looking at her when she talks to me, saying I have other plans the next time we're supposed to get lunch, or just letting us drift apart next quarter, but if I stop sitting next to her in class altogether then she'll either think I'm cold as fuck or that I'm avoiding her as a way of forcing myself to let her go. She has low self-esteem, if she thinks I'm avoiding her then she'll never talk to me again.

So knowing that I'm forced to be in the same room with her every day, should I vanish anyways, or just give her less attention?


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If she friend zoned you; whether you believe it on not you were kissing some ass. Maybe not as much as some others, but even a little ass kissing is still too much.

You have to disappear for a bit bro. Absence makes the heart grow fonder. Disappear for a while.. When she comes back, ignore her first two attempts. Women always try at least three times.. At least from my experience. And just let her know that your sexual attraction for her is to stronger, seeing her isn't good for YOU, no matter how much she may feel its good for her. Keep the convo short, end it, and she'll chase.

You have to be willing to LOSE any girl that you want to get. There is always one grand move, one risky maneuver that could cause a guy to lose the girl that comes with every deeply successful seduction.

Vanish and she'll go looking for you.
She has low self-esteem, if she thinks I'm avoiding her then she'll never talk to me again.
That statement completely goes against the advice I just gave. For starters, her low self esteem isn't your fault.. So why is that a concern on how you will make decision in your own life. If we can help people help them, but at what expense?

The game men and women play is the Pussy vs TIME game.. Women want to get as much of our time as possible before they give up the vagina and men want to get the vagina as quickly as possible without having to give up that much of our time. Thats the battle.. So a mans time is his pussy to a woman. And how do you treat a girl that lets you use her pussy whenever you want, and how ever you want? You treat her like a whore.. You're rude to her, you'll probably even let your friends sleep with her, and she can never become more than a friend in your life. Thats how women treat men who let them abuse their time. The men become TIME hoes, and get treated like one.. Friends and nothing more..

The truth is.. She currently does not respect you. A woman needs to respect a man to develop romantic feelings for him and the moment that respect is gone, so are her romantic feelings.

I won't encourage you to act like a weirdo in class, but distance yourself. If you must, just tell her you need a lil break and focus on other areas of your life. Stop worrying about what SHES going to think. Thats why you got friend zoned in the first place. You have to do whats best for YOU despite what she thinks. Your own self esteem is more important to you than hers. At least it should be.

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