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 Post subject: sooo many flakes
PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:11 pm 
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hello everybody.i'm new on this site. i start sarging a year ago but i don't have results.i'm going out 2 times a week with no breaks open sets with my wings ,have fun but the problem is flakes,flakes ,flakes and again flake.i don;t know what to do anymore because i'm a lil bit dissapointed but i don't want to give up.my wings have improve their game and get laid but i don't know what i'm doing wrong.the pressure is huge because i give soo many effort on the game and i dont have the women i want in my life.i feel bad because my wings get laid and me not.my outer game is not bad and i have good conversational skillset, i improve my BL ,improve my AA problem and i'm very social with new people. step by step improve my game problems but very sloooow! now i number closed easily but most times don't have day 2's or simply flake. my inner game is not good .i start to sarge before one year with a lot of motivation but my beliefs change with all these rejections and flakes.
my results these year is (4 make outs and 1 lay)

my next step is to register to this forum and to second to go out tonight and open more sets. if you want write me a good sarging programme and how many sets to open (i think 10 -15 sets are good i prefer mostly nightgame)


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 Post subject: Re: sooo many flakes
PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:41 pm 
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hello everybody.i'm new on this site. i start sarging a year ago but i don't have results.i'm going out 2 times a week with no breaks open sets with my wings ,have fun but the problem is flakes,flakes ,flakes and again flake.i don;t know what to do anymore because i'm a lil bit dissapointed but i don't want to give up.my wings have improve their game and get laid but i don't know what i'm doing wrong.the pressure is huge because i give soo many effort on the game and i dont have the women i want in my life.i feel bad because my wings get laid and me not.my outer game is not bad and i have good conversational skillset, i improve my BL ,improve my AA problem and i'm very social with new people. step by step improve my game problems but very sloooow! now i number closed easily but most times don't have day 2's or simply flake. my inner game is not good .i start to sarge before one year with a lot of motivation but my beliefs change with all these rejections and flakes.
my results these year is (4 make outs and 1 lay)

my next step is to register to this forum and to second to go out tonight and open more sets. if you want write me a good sarging programme and how many sets to open (i think 10 -15 sets are good i prefer mostly nightgame)

The likely cause of your constant flakes - based on what you've written here - is that you are not connecting with them and building enough attraction BEFORE you get the number.

So - you chat them up, you kinda say 'yeah you're all right, let me get your number' - but she's just not feeling you the same way you're feeling her. When you text her or call her, she doesn't get that feeling that she really gives a shit about seeing you again.

The fix is to make a better connection when you meet, and before you get the number. Make her laugh and make her believe you're awesome... Kino is good too. Light touching (nothing creepy).

Your goal with the first encounter is to make it as great as possible for her, and as memorable as possible... when you go for the day 2, you'll normally get a positive reply if you've done this correctly.


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 Post subject: Re: sooo many flakes
PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:22 pm 
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Surely you have asked your wings for feedback?

It could be something simple like...that you dress like shit. One weekend of shopping and then BOOM - mroe dates and less flakes.

There will always be flakes though.

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 Post subject: Re: sooo many flakes
PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:54 am 
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hey man, that's a known phase actually that most if not everybody are going through.
I went through it and also many of my students did!
at first you cant approach, then you approach but no girls ever stop and then when they do stop you feel so scared and so confused that they just run away as fast as they can because they feel uncomfortable.

its a normal phase you are going through and its probably more related to your vibe, the time you spend with the girl and your decisions. you may, for example, run away from the interaction just after you get the phone number making her feel like it was some kind of a bet with a friend.

just keep hustle man! I promise you it will come! improvement in this field is far from being linear...

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 Post subject: Re: sooo many flakes
PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:42 pm 
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Before you even exchange numbers... it's good if you can remove her from the group. For example ask her to join you for a cigarette or to come with you to the shop. If she follows you that's a good sign. If she doesn't keep working on attraction.
Before you even ask for the number... start talking about the date. Don't mention it as a date. Mention the place, get her excited about it... then be playful with a bit push/pull of why you are NOT taking her there.. you are not sure ( reverse psychology), make her want to go there with you... close the deal by getting her to agree to go on the date at this time... You'll do even better if she is the one pushing to go to that great place. Set a day and the time ( max 3 days since the day you met her)... and THEN exchange numbers. Setting the date and time is important. If you don't have these you don't have a date. Number closing is only to make sure that you won't miss each other.. it is not the goal.
If you wait until she goes home and thinks about it you have higher chances she is going to overthink and change her decision.
Walking home text her. Keep the excitement. Next day that she will be sober text her again.. around night time. One or two texts. Not too much. The day after should be the day you are meeting up again.


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 Post subject: Re: sooo many flakes
PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:24 pm 
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Before you even exchange numbers... it's good if you can remove her from the group. For example ask her to join you for a cigarette or to come with you to the shop. If she follows you that's a good sign. If she doesn't keep working on attraction.
Before you even ask for the number... start talking about the date. Don't mention it as a date. Mention the place, get her excited about it... then be playful with a bit push/pull of why you are NOT taking her there.. you are not sure ( reverse psychology), make her want to go there with you... close the deal by getting her to agree to go on the date at this time... You'll do even better if she is the one pushing to go to that great place. Set a day and the time ( max 3 days since the day you met her)... and THEN exchange numbers. Setting the date and time is important. If you don't have these you don't have a date. Number closing is only to make sure that you won't miss each other.. it is not the goal.
If you wait until she goes home and thinks about it you have higher chances she is going to overthink and change her decision.
Walking home text her. Keep the excitement. Next day that she will be sober text her again.. around night time. One or two texts. Not too much. The day after should be the day you are meeting up again.
I like this piece of advice. One question maria_, why set the date at a maximum of three days away. I'm not doubting this advice, but I am curious about the reasoning behind it.

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 Post subject: Re: sooo many flakes
PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:32 pm 
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When you meet someone new you get excited ( if the person is charismatic). The more time is passing the less excited you feel.
Emotions are a power that pushes people do things. When emotions are on a higher level you tend to follow your emotions more than your logic.
When you are excited about something it is also not easy to get influenced by other people. You do what you want to do.
If he leaves it for a week she will have already forgotten why she felt attracted to him on the first place PLUS there is a higher chance that she might meet another charismatic person.
Once he goes out for a first date he is safer because he will have the advantage of having created more connection than a new guy..
Does it make sense now? I'm sorry about my english.


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 Post subject: Re: sooo many flakes
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When you meet someone new you get excited ( if the person is charismatic). The more time is passing the less excited you feel.
Emotions are a power that pushes people do things. When emotions are on a higher level you tend to follow your emotions more than your logic.
When you are excited about something it is also not easy to get influenced by other people. You do what you want to do.
If he leaves it for a week she will have already forgotten why she felt attracted to him on the first place PLUS there is a higher chance that she might meet another charismatic person.
Once he goes out for a first date he is safer because he will have the advantage of having created more connection than a new guy..
Does it make sense now? I'm sorry about my english.
The reasoning behind it sounds solid. I think I will actually try it. I've always applied that logic when it came to making the initial phone call for preventing flakes. The thing I like about what you say is that it may have her anticipating the meet even more than if the meet were arranged in a phone call, and anticipation leads to tension which leads to sex. The weakness may be that it may have the appearance of being too eager and available. But its definitely worth a shot.

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 Post subject: Re: sooo many flakes
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Always strike whilst the iron is hot

Whoever made the 'wait 3 days' rule deserves to be pooped on

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 Post subject: Re: sooo many flakes
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When you meet someone new you get excited ( if the person is charismatic). The more time is passing the less excited you feel.
Emotions are a power that pushes people do things. When emotions are on a higher level you tend to follow your emotions more than your logic.
When you are excited about something it is also not easy to get influenced by other people. You do what you want to do.
If he leaves it for a week she will have already forgotten why she felt attracted to him on the first place PLUS there is a higher chance that she might meet another charismatic person.
Once he goes out for a first date he is safer because he will have the advantage of having created more connection than a new guy..
Does it make sense now? I'm sorry about my english.
The reasoning behind it sounds solid. I think I will actually try it. I've always applied that logic when it came to making the initial phone call for preventing flakes. The thing I like about what you say is that it may have her anticipating the meet even more than if the meet were arranged in a phone call, and anticipation leads to tension which leads to sex. The weakness may be that it may have the appearance of being too eager and available. But its definitely worth a shot.
First of all you don't always need to create tension to get sex.
Second... if he can't f-close straight after the club and he wants a date to isolate her he needs to start gaming her at the date and f-close there.
You need to create tension if you want the other person to develop feelings for you. That's necessary if you want the girl to be your gf.
If you want the girl to be your FWB you want her to feel attracted to you enough so she sleeps with you but not emotionally attached to you because she will get jealous and create drama.
Flirting, kissing.. and freeze outs are enough to get you sex on a date.
If not the first date ... the second or the third.. ( if she is playing hard to get ie she wants relationship and not just sex).


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 Post subject: Re: sooo many flakes
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When you meet someone new you get excited ( if the person is charismatic). The more time is passing the less excited you feel.
Emotions are a power that pushes people do things. When emotions are on a higher level you tend to follow your emotions more than your logic.
When you are excited about something it is also not easy to get influenced by other people. You do what you want to do.
If he leaves it for a week she will have already forgotten why she felt attracted to him on the first place PLUS there is a higher chance that she might meet another charismatic person.
Once he goes out for a first date he is safer because he will have the advantage of having created more connection than a new guy..
Does it make sense now? I'm sorry about my english.
The reasoning behind it sounds solid. I think I will actually try it. I've always applied that logic when it came to making the initial phone call for preventing flakes. The thing I like about what you say is that it may have her anticipating the meet even more than if the meet were arranged in a phone call, and anticipation leads to tension which leads to sex. The weakness may be that it may have the appearance of being too eager and available. But its definitely worth a shot.
First of all you don't always need to create tension to get sex.
Second... if he can't f-close straight after the club and he wants a date to isolate her he needs to start gaming her at the date and f-close there.
You need to create tension if you want the other person to develop feelings for you. That's necessary if you want the girl to be your gf.
If you want the girl to be your FWB you want her to feel attracted to you enough so she sleeps with you but not emotionally attached to you because she will get jealous and create drama.
Flirting, kissing.. and freeze outs are enough to get you sex on a date.
If not the first date ... the second or the third.. ( if she is playing hard to get ie she wants relationship and not just sex).
I'm not trying to say that you always need it. I'm saying it's good to have it in place and once the date happens because you're already being seen as a sexual being.

I think your advice is good, especially from a day game perspective. For whatever reason, it's never occurred to me to set a meet during the initial meeting unless I was trying for that same night.

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 Post subject: Re: sooo many flakes
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I don't know about other girls but from my experience I see a guy as a sexual because he makes me feel this way while I am with him ...
If I don't already feel attracted to the guy how will the mind game work on me?
Tension only HIGHLIGHTS the feelings. It doesn't alter them..
And anyway.. if he gets to meet her .. he can create tension on the first date... add the right kino too ;) ..


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What Charlesfinley said


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