https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYPXuRnDOgc

Someone commented....
"Years ago I was in a diner with one of the best guys I ever met, Johnnie Walker. I saw some girls at a table, and I said, "I think I'm going to approach those girls."

This was a busy diner and it was late morning.

He asked me why, and I told him something like, "I like to act no matter what the circumstances."

He made a great point. He said, "Guys always go into awkward situations to try and game girls, then they fail. Then they create a momentum of failure when it's really that they are trying to pick poor situations over and over. Down the road these guys start to actually internalize that they are failures where as if they would just pick their situations wiser they would have a lot more success."

Think about this. What socially savvy guy would actually go up to these people and start a discussion with them, and try to hit on the girl? Even a guy who was AMAZING with women?

Apart from a Sociopath what type of person would approach this table with the expectation that she would drop what she was doing, and either fuck the guy or even give him a phone number? A ladies man would wait for a better opportunity or make something happen, or just know that he could chill and there's going to be another hot, single chick right around the corner who will be in a situation that wont be awkward."

Any my response was...


A socially savoy person wouldn't interrupt a meal like this to pickup a girl because the mere approach is a breach in social norms. However, this isn't to say that it's impossible. A highly skilled PUA can compensate for the social violation. Although I am only a beginner PUA I still gained tremendously from this insane approach because it got me out of my comfort zone, an important reference and it's gonna get me a shit ton of views on the forums. I went in there knowing i was going to fail but it would be well worth it anyways.

Is this stuff real or parody or something?

I am the person who made this video. lol this is where my game as rn but i'm doing everything within my power to grow and improve as much as i can everyday.

Ok. First of all props for doing the approaches.

Second, I watched this video and a few of your recent videos. You're creeping girls out tbh. I mean I literally groaned and twisted my face while watching it was that painful. I saw your wing's "kiss close" where he lip raped a chubby girl. Putting your lips on a womans while she is pushing you away is not a k close. You're socially awkward in all of the vids and the women's face show that they are creeped out. Find someone who is legitimately good and get coaching. Indirect, direct, doesn't matter...it's awkward either way. I mean no disrespect, but if you want to improve things need to drastically change. You're doing the same bad things over and over.

I agree that the kiss close was calibrated and uncalled for.

Getting rid of awkwardness will take more practice and experience for me to develop my social skills. However, until that happens: awkward moments will be inevitable.

I am already looking for legit coaches. Would you like to coach me?

You keep "running game". This is not how socially normal people behave.

You don't need "game". You need to learn to be socially normal. You circle the dude at the table and call him "beta". The thing is, he has an attractive female friend, and you don't. He's cooler than you are.

I'm not sure what kind of odd stuff is going on in your head. You are entirely too gamified.

You need to step away from "game" and have normal conversations.

If you simply must view everything through the prism of "pickup", then please, please go find Swingcat's "Natural Vibing" program and listen to it.

And then google up GLL's "shy guy" game.

I still think you need to join things like social clubs, or a church or something, and get some regular friends, before you insist on talking to strangers, but I get the sense you're not interested in doing things that way.

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i do need to learn normal conversation skills but why should i join a social club in order to learn this. i could just practice on girls that i approach.

No one learns how to do this, the way you're attempting to do this.
Randomly chatting up strangers is much more difficult than having a reason for them to hang out with you.

You've been at this for how long? 6 months at a minimum. How many girls have you dated from this? How many lays?

If the answer is "zero"(and I'm pretty sure it is), that's exactly why you need to shift things in a new direction. 6 months was more than enough time for you to have gotten into groups, made friends, and dated at least a girl or two. And the best part is, it would all be building momentum to even further expansion. I don't see a lot of improvement in your delivery from when you first started. You're still creeping people out. This seems to be a dead end.

I'm telling you right now, if you keep doing this for the next six months, your results are going to be what they've been for the previous six months. I notice only mild improvement. At this rate, a year from now, it's still not going to be going well.

Wandering up with "opinion openers" is not how any normal person makes friends or gets dates. It's socially bizarre. Yes, someone who is socially well adjusted can do it. You can't, right now.
Normal conversations come up, from you already knowing the person and saying something like "how was your weekend".

Again, if you need to learn from PUAs, then check into Sinn. He has an "opener" he uses that's roughly "Hi! You look cool! So I thought I'd come say hi! I'm Jon!" and then he "stacks" into some observation about them or the environment.

At least focus on your vocal energy projection and body language. Every video I've seen, you're dead in set within 5 seconds, because you never hook them. You're so focused on saying words, and that is literally the least important part of communication. The most important part is your vibe, tonality and body language.

Edit:
Ok, looking at the video Neo mentioned, the teacher you approached. Yeah, that actually was a major improvement. You're doing better when you move away from these odd routine and opinion openers. Granted, that girl was not into you from the start and is just nice, but the conversation was vastly less awkward than the restaurant(on your end).
Your buddy is going to end up getting his ass kicked if he keeps doing that type of "kiss close", though.

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Perfectly stated.

This is where the "assume attraction" and plowing stuff are taken the wrong way. You should be looking at feedback from your conversations, and adjusting accordingly next time. Many of the girls showed no interest off that bat, this should be feedback to improve your style and body first. Most of the conversations the people look creeped out, stop using those topics. Even if you're plowing (and I don't really even like plowing), the next approach should be adjusted. You shouldnt be having to plow every girl. In one approach, I saw you compliment a girl and tell her she had yellow teeth, then you spoke to her in a made up Asian language which would surely offend her. This is just simple social skill stuff which should be handled before gaming. As V said, join a social club or make friends first. I suggested a coach. What I think the underlying point is, find a reference point for being a socially normal guy. Even if you ignore this advice, take the feedback you receive (girls wanting to leave, blow outs, nervous stares) and adjust what you're doing until girls and people seem comfortable having conversations with you.

Cupid 007, you are officially my favorite poster in here. I watched your channel. Your ballzy approach in general is respectable. You have balls. I would like to see you close a bit more or even take numbers. I will inbox you. I think you would make a incredible wing. I will say that, you could approach in a more "lets date" frame or "party boy" frame. I number close quite a bit. It does not always materialize. Lots of flakes and loads of excuses but, I credit myself for always approaching. I had quite a bit of things going on over the holiday season. I did more of the same last night however, it does not always produce results but, it just as well may. I like what you did. Most people will be criticizing but, they wont put up videos or offer anything of value themselves. 007, try to just have a reason to see her again. It could be to workout, go run, party, sight see or walk your dogs at a local park. Anything will do but, it comes around to her interest level and availability (single, dating, LTR, LDR, married, divorce, etc). Keep going man. It is a numbers game. It is only a matter of time. Keep going bro.

Don't listen 100% to Joe. He's like the bible, great guidelines but he leaves out the real details. You haven't responded to the comments made in your other threads. I'm curious about that. I agree with Joe that you will get better with practice...But, here is the thing.

You are running an insanity loop. You're using nearly the exact same framework that I saw you use in videos 1-10. You cannot expect to get different outcomes by repeating the same actions over and over again. I already explained to you that you need to sit down and restructure that shit, other people have said that as well. Yet you keep using it. Creeping people out and putting the conversational pressure on strangers trying to get them to chase you.

I love your attitude. I love your courage. I would totally wing with you because I would just make up for your craziness, but that's not going to help you get better. I see your problem. It's a problem I had when I was just an average chess player. I focused on my by the book chess techniques and didn't bother analyzing or reading my opponents.

You have to start learning context and timing. When is the proper time to apply this specific technique. You have plenty of infields to study. Doing all of these approaches and still being at the level you are is inexcusable. Since your in a get laid or die trying mode do this.

Write out your framework on a piece of paper. Or create a flow chart if you know how to do that. Then sit down and watch every single one of your videos and fix the framework. I suggest adding to the framework an endgame. You seem to be going with an endgame of just talking or getting rid of awkwardness. Fuck that. Run an endgame of getting a number, following up for a date and sticking your dick into some pussy. Or something else that results in the intercourse at the end. Enough of this baby step shit.

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To roughly paraphrase Skills, "Yeah but...."

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If seduction was just a numbers game then just walk up to every girl and say "Listen, I don't feel like chatting. Give me your number and I'll text you my address so you can come over later to suck my dick."

Matter of fact, I have an online dating account that pulls women on the regular. I'm about to go send that message to 100 ugly women who are below my look level. I'll post their responses here.

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I am a hunter of human excellence. I seek out those individuals who break the norms
and demonstrate to all of us what’s really possible. I learn what those few
extraordinary individuals do that’s different from everybody else, and then emulate
them.

Just got a response already. I only sent out 10...

"...df" Why did she even bother typing that shit?

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I am a hunter of human excellence. I seek out those individuals who break the norms
and demonstrate to all of us what’s really possible. I learn what those few
extraordinary individuals do that’s different from everybody else, and then emulate
them.

"Ha! I'm good."

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I am a hunter of human excellence. I seek out those individuals who break the norms
and demonstrate to all of us what’s really possible. I learn what those few
extraordinary individuals do that’s different from everybody else, and then emulate
them.