Is there a good strategy for managing yourself if there is a game that you're not very good at? Consider beer pong, billiards, or foosball even. Is it best not to play at all and risk looking less attractive?

What I've always done is not care about what people think and smile and laugh at myself. But sometimes, other guys, will see it as an opportunity to try and dominate me.

What's everyone's oppinion about this and how to handle yourself as well as how girls might see it. My opinion is that it doesn't matter as long as your confident, but then I'm not sure if there is a line of acceptable ineptness.

It doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things. Do whatever you feel like doing.

Personally, I do not tend to enjoy playing games I am not good at with people I know are better than me. But if you still want to play, sure, go for it, mate. Just stand for your decision. If you play because you want to, you will have fun. If you don't want to play, nobody is going to think less of you.

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My question might not have been worded well enough; what I mean to ask is, how do you manage being aweful at a game in front of a girl to avoid losing attraction?

sounds like low status behavior, I sounds like your inviting guys to alpha you.

I have found, over a lot of real life dates that if I play pool, darts, shuffleboard,or other bar games of skill I'm better off beating my date then letting her win. This isn't the result of what I would inherently assume to be true, but I've found over many years of dating I'm better off winning then losing.

Is there an "alpha" way of losing at something that doesn't invite guys to alpha me?

Winning or losing the game isn't the important part. All i'm saying is when it's just you and your date playing bar games I suggest beating your date. If it's just you and your friends it should matter much either although with some it will.

If you are getting AMOG'ed it is likely the the result of weak body language and lack of confidence when they start probing. Just like bullys most AMOG'ers don't immediately go in full force, they probe for weakness first and than opportunistically escalate. Your best method to stop this is not to letting it happen in the first place by not looking weak.

If these guys are your friends and not just random strangers than you have already established yourself as a beta member of the group, those relationships are hard to redefine, so in most cases I would stop hanging out with them entirely. Getting good with pickup has cost me a lot of old relationships with "friends" that were no longer tolerable for me.

Take the fucking stick out of your ass and have some fun.

Being "attractive" has nothing to do with how good you are at a game. Learn to have fun and laugh.

The most attractive guy thats playing an activity is usually the guy that is having the most fun. Its no so much about winning as it is about having a good time and building rapport with your teammates and opponents. I remember when I would lose on purpose just so I could stand on the sidelines and chat with the chicks.

No one cares unless you do. If losing making you feel like a loser.. WIN. If you can look beyond winning and learn to just have a good time people will gravitate to you regardless.

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Thanks Eddie, your answer was well articulated.

I totally second this. If you're confident in yourself, it won't matter if you win or lose. If your self esteem fluctuates based upon winning or losing a game, you've got some work to do. If it doesn't, then it really doesn't matter. She won't see you as non-alpha unless you act non-alpha and losing disrupts your frame.

If other guys give you shit, so what? Show her you can handle their shit, and she will know you're confident, regardless of winning or losing.

Bingo.

Have fun. Don't take it seriously. If you get your ass whipped at billiards laugh it off. If a guy gives you shit reply with "well normally when I'm grabbing my stick it's not this thin" with a huge smile. If you come across as though you aren't insecure at all, not only will girls love it, but guys won't give you shit about it.

Yes, something i heard that will always stick with me is: "the person that is having the most fun in the room is the most attractive." Just because other guys are better than you at some things doesnt mean you cant be having more fun.

If you have high vibes you will "out-alpha" 99.99% of the male and female population in other words you are on a higher level spiritually and they can't jack your swag more or less.

Who cares what others think about whether you won the game of foosball, it means nothing UNLESS you attach meaning to it.

I fourth this...

seriously, screw the alpha thing when it comes to fun. I enjoy whatever I am doing and enjoy my time with whoever I am with. Just let it go. Worrying about what other people think is worthless because you can't control other people's thoughts.

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