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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:01 pm 
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So I'm fairly new here. I'm looking to learn pick up techniques, particularly with the goal of a long-term girlfriend in mind.

The biggest question here is where to get started. There's a lot of stuff out there. I'm really wondering where to focus on, when it comes to what to learn.

I like the idea of a natural system because I'm looking for a long-term relationship. But I'm rather reserved, not very spontaneous in my own opinion. So I wonder how that would work for me. Not totally sure what to go for in a natural system, though hypnosis/subliminals designed to increase pheromone production might be something I would look at here.

Unnatural game has the advantage of being less fallible and technically oriented-I'd probably do well with it for that reason. But I also want to be myself. So an unnatural system can't be too scripted, or it won't work for me either.

In terms of unnatural systems, I want something that can be used in conversation. (Body language is difficult for Aspergians. Altering my own is an option- reading someone else's body language will take technical details for me to comprehend; read my intro topic if you want more details on this). Options like NLP and conversational hypnosis are interesting, but might be too scripted. Learning to use something like elicit values, which leads me to understand how a particular girl thinks and can then be used to meet her psychological needs through mostly action, secondly words, and possibly calculated takeaway (though I admit it: I don't like takeaway unless it's genuine, though with how many things I have going on in life, I can probably do genuine takeaway.). Kino, framing, and emotional contagion are possibly other tools that might be worth studying, since I don't image those are always scripted.

Keep in mind that I have a budget of zero dollars-free material is . Any suggestions on where to get started learning?


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Hey man, so... I'm not going to tell you to go one way or another. No matter what you're looking for this is what I think you should do.

1. Get your life together. Whatever you need, have a job. Go to the gym at least three times a week. Shower everyday if you don't already, take care of yourself. Get some routines. It's going to make you feel better and get more confident naturally. It's not going to make you into a sex-machine or anything, but overall being in control will make you more confident and happier and those are two damn attractive qualities!

2. Learn "standard" responses. Here's the thing. If you have aspergers you're probably at some point going to fuck up and say some shit you shouldn't. This is probably going to happen consistently no matter how good you get at social interactions. Maybe you're less symptomatic than the average, but it's really empowering to, when you say something or get into a conversational topic you shouldn't and you see that look on someones face that tells you like; *shit I done fucked up* and you know, that you're figured it out late because let's face it, it's already hard to tell when you're crossing a line have some way's to relieve the tension. auto-response humor. You can be rude, if you're at the same time funny.


3. Use technology to equate quantity with quality. Use Tinder. It's really, really easy! it puts you in social interactions right away and if you fail, you just move on to the next one who already accepted you as a possible partner based on your looks and profile text. Getting started you don't need routines or game or anything like that. Go on three dates either with one girl or three girls. Don't do anything serious grab a cup of coffee it's really casual. Then come back post how they went, as detailed as possible. Include text conversations before the dates and after too. People here will tell you what you did wrong and help you do better in the future, and you'll start forming a picture of what things you are good at and what you're bad at. It's a huge waste to spend a month learning complicated patterns just to figure out that you were already good at that stuff it was something else you should have been spending your time on.

Anyway, that's just what I think, remember: Have fun out there!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:04 am 
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A budget of zero dollars isn't that bad of a thing. Honestly, very few of the programs are worth buying.

As to the free blogs, I highly recommend Chase Amante
60 Years of Challenge
Good Looking Loser
I also suggest looking at SeductionMyth's approach guide.

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Develop a natural framework then fill it in with stuff you find on here. There are many posts on natural game in the Natural game section.

Here is a basic one:

Approach/open(light kino optional) - have her invest/qualify herself to you (light kino) - build comfort/rapport (mid kino) - Close (number, instant date)

Then go on here and look over advice on texting and pick what you find the most fun to test out. Employ your texting game (or phone conversation game if you want to do that) and set up the date ASAP

Look for advice on dates (pick the thing you like best)

Look for advice on how to get a kiss

Look for advice on how to get a woman isolated in a place you can have sex.

Look for advice on how to prevent and overcome LMR

Look for advice on how to manage having an abundance of women in your life/managing a one woman relationship.

Answers to each piece of that puzzle can be found here for free.

A more advanced but still basic framework

pre approach - Approach/open(light kino optional) - have her invest/qualify herself to you (light kino) - build comfort/rapport (mid kino) - Close (number, instant date)

I suggest after you develop your own personal system (which can include nlp/hypnosis if you want) that you practice practice practice, then look for better skills to fill each section.

If you choose to do this can you do me a favor? I want to see what you create. PM me your completed framework (i don't care how long the PM is tell the whole story). I'll look over it and clean it up and streamline it for you.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:39 am 
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Made a long post and the forum ate it. So annoying.

1. Don't have time for a job or the gym, with college and volunteering, but getting my license (I'm a college freshman, if you're curious) would be a good idea. A little more attention to hygine would pay off, as well.

2. Great idea. Could I get some examples?

3. Tinder is not a good fit for a strong Christian, as many of my freinds will disapprove of the idea. I'd be better off practicing conversations in the halls at the technial college, something I know I can get by with.

Versalis, I'll have to check those out when I find a couple hours around learning code.

Fudge, would love the help developing a system. Might talk to you even while it's in progress.


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You need a total 180 in your way of thinking. I'd explain but I'll probably piss you off or offend you, you'll tell me to fuck off, and I'll have wasted time helping yet another person who doesn't want to hear what they need to hear. so I'll just keep quiet. But yeah... your head is all fucked up.


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Made a long post and the forum ate it. So annoying.

1. Don't have time for a job or the gym, with college and volunteering,
The first one, yes. The second one? No. You can hit the gym. Do what I did when I started out. Once per week legs, twice per week upper body(skip ab work). It takes a little over 3 hours per week, and gets you in surprisingly better shape. Even working out like that, I ended up gaining close to 15lbs of muscle in a year.
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A little more attention to hygine would pay off, as well.
If you have acne, fix it. Get clothes that fit. Go to thrift stores. You can fill out an entire wardrobe for $50. A plain dress shirt that fits you(probably $2-4), is much better than a new $100+ Ralph Lauren that doesn't fit right.
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Tinder is not a good fit for a strong Christian, as many of my freinds will disapprove of the idea.
You're going to need to get over that. On the one hand, you're telling us "I don't have time to fix my fundamentals" and also "I can't leave my comfort zone, because my friends are holding me back!". Then get cooler friends.

I've known highly religious people who were non-judgmental. And also people who barely touched a Bible or went to church who were extremely judgmental.
If your friends are not judgmental, then you aren't giving them enough credit. They'll be happy for your success and support you, however you do that.

If your friends are judgmental, they will not help you in life. You'll be pinned to mediocrity if you listen to them, because a judgmental attitude stems from mediocrity. They'll never accomplish anything, so they have a set of strict rules and feel they're better because of following those rules. That is never the mindset of a successful person, be it in business or sex and relationships.
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I'd be better off practicing conversations in the halls at the technial college, something I know I can get by with.
You want to mix timidity with approaching more women. I hope you're very, very good looking, or this is going to go nowhere.

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If you have 5 minutes to start off with in the morning you can get ripped and strong!

After you do this do a fitness test immediately. Here is what to do.

When you wake up in the morning roll out of bed crouch down in this position:
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but I keep my knees between my arms.

Jump up into the air as high as you can. What I do while in the air is visualize myself descending to the earth from the sky like a meteor with fire and stuff all around me. I used to see myself crashing into the earth and causing a creator, but that's a bit destructive. Now I land in the ocean. You want to land softly so you don't fuck up you ankle or knee.

Land in the super hero 3 point pose in real life:
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While in the ocean A giant version of Dory from finding Nemo starts swimming around my head. Repeating "Just keep Swimming, just keep swimming." Her smile, enthusiasm, and encouragement make me feel great.

I reach the bottom of the ocean and start taking small consistent steps in an image like this:
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When as I'm walking up the path an orange appears in front of me. I grab the orange and literally feel the feeling of holding it. I start to peel the orange and can smell the citrus of the peal. Then I eat the orange and literally taste it. Can you imagine taste, smell, and touch? If you can't yet just practice it's like any other skill.

That last part about the small steps leading up to the orange is a memory peg. Look up "How to develop a perfect memory" by dominic o'brien. It goes perfectly with your personality.

Anyway, the symbols represent these two phrases: "Small consistent steps lead to great things.", and "The hardest part is getting started, but once you peel back those initial layers things become easy."

How many times have you spend hours days months procrastinating only to find out the thing you were avoiding was really easy and just took a little of your time?

if you only can jump 2 inches in the air then jump those 2 inches, and do that. Wake up every morning doing that. It sets the tone for the rest of the day.

Now for the 5 minute work out. Push ups, low plank, 123 Hysmans, and squats.

Here is how. Do some push ups right now. Count how many you do and do them until they become slightly difficult. Only slightly difficult. This is your base number. it could be 60 it would be 5. Mine was 30 when I started in november.

So if yours is 5, then after your jump visualization and landing (you will want to include stretching here) you do 5 push ups, get into a low plank position and hold it for 5 seconds, 5 - squats, and 5 - 123 Heismans). Don't worry about being intense because you can injure yourself, just hit the numbers. (then do another stretch)

When those 5 push ups become extremely easy increase the number by 5. so now you're doing 10 of each. The order of the other workouts after the push ups don't matter.

Repeat that pattern for the rest of your life. Right now I'm up to 90 easy push ups, only 2 months later I've become 3x as strong.

It's a full body workout that targets everything in small unnoticeable increments. It won't feel like your doing anything at first but gradually over time you'll be hitting numbers like me easily and you will be cut and ripped everywhere, along with gaining some mass if you pack in the right proteins each day.

I have 7 stretches I do. I used to only do 5 but in the process I caught a slight injury and realized I needed to stretch another muscle group (my hip flexors) in order to make this work properly.

Bicep stretch, triceps stretch, chest stretch, quadriceps stretch, I bend over keeping my legs slightly bent reaching for my toes, Hip flexor stretch,

Airplane:
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I only spend about 10 seconds on each stretch. Take every Sunday off. Initially the entire process takes less than 5 minutes of your time each morning. Even now, even at 90 it still only takes me less than 15 minutes in my entire day.

If you wake up one day feeling muscle soreness in your chest then skip the work outs until the soreness goes away. Then pick up where you left off.

You won't find this anywhere in the world. A workout program that targets your entire body and with light cardio, balance, and flexibility in under 5 minutes.

2 months I've become 3 times as strong basing it off the number of easy push ups I can do. 3 times as strong! It's nothing. 5 minutes.

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