(This might be the right place to post this)

Hey guys, long time out but this was too good not to share.

Broke up with a LTG so got back on the horse. Now i have a friend who's a hb9 with a bf who gets off on letting other guys fuck her. Ive known her for years and get on really well. So i told her im in and we go out for drinks before heading back to the room. Catch is, this time, her bf wants us to film it, now personally, iv'e filmed allot of woman, but doing it for some guy...without pay? No porn for him!

So, we finish what we started, got our cuddle on and here where it gets weird! The guy's been texting her and phoning her the entire time (she was to distracted to answer) but it turns out the video thing was a deal breaker, and he's now angry at us both, he tells her shes ruined it, gets jealous, manipulating and blah blah emotional blackmail. Then the guys starts to message me, for 4 hours...

I could have rolled over, gone to sleep and called it a night, but there was something intrinsically compelling about arguing with this guy whilst being inside his girlfriend. As it turns out, from what she tells me, this guys a jealous psychopath. He makes her text him ever hour and shouts at her all the time and he thinks i'm a threat (but wants me to screw his gf?) and tells me he's going to message my ex LTG that i cheated on her with hb9 (Incidentally, ive never cheated, shocking no?).

Finally, after many many threats it dawns on me, this guys a psychopath, He literally has no emotional connection to the the words or actions her uses (I've a degree in psychology btw) so, i hit him with an emotional empathy test disguised as a sob story, he fails. During all of this the hb9 and I are spooning ect, and i notice shes really upset by this guy and its because he acts like this allot. She crys, tells me she needs to sort thing out with him, and he picks her up the next day.

Next day, he messages me, i say "cool, im just embarrassed for you" he messages me for 3 more hours, deleted fb and writes a letter to his gf that has the sentence "I always wanted to die, love is just a lie and i am a shadow holding back those who should have true joy"...Yeah....

So, there back together now/never broke up, and shes still messaging me flirty texts and sending me nude pictures... I ask you all, what the fuck!?

P.s, best way to break them up? (if he doesn't off himself or skin me alive that would be a bonus)


(extract from messaging)

bf- Maybe you should just message you ex, tell her what a cheat you are!
bf- Better yet, I will for you.

Mmmhummm-JJ

bf- Let her know the real you.

Seen that coming -JJ
Its almost what a psychopath would do...-JJ

bf-Very good!
bf- tell your ex what scum you are?
bf- we need more psychopaths if thats the case!

You are a psychopath get help, k? -JJ

Straw-man.

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They call me the cat whisperer, cause I know exactly what the pussy needs.

Reading this it sounds like you are just caught up in the excitement. Why would you want to break them up? She gets a kick out of screwing guys she's not in a relationship with. I mean if your kinda like her current bf an get a kick out of your girl sleeping around by all means do it. But otherwise you're not making much sense. You got a sweet deal with a fwb just enjoy it.

I just looked the straw-man technique up. It seems quite primitive, but on the right track. As stated in the book The Art of Seduction, there need to be some pain involved. The girl has to be reminded about the shortcomings of her bf, reminded about things she lack in her life, and you need to make yourself look like the solution to her problems. The straw-man technique does this in a bold way. With some finesse you can easily do this more subtle.

Personally I go with honesty. I would ask the girl straight-forward questions, since this case seems so obvious. The guy is a psychopath. What else is there to argue about? Just ask her "why do you stay with that guy?", and "why do you accept that SPAM from him?". IMO that's not some AFC-strategy, it's just plain curiosity and questioning.

Be aware that she maybe stays with him out of pure fear! I don't know what he does to her, but it wouldn't surprise me if he can get violent and hit her, threaten her. Keep your eyes open and offer her some serious help if that's the case.

Stay away from crazy. Both of them. There's other pussy out there where you don't risk being beaten or killed over.

Always go bold.
'Seems' logical? Like a Duh moment. She doesn't think about it in those terms as you do.

She is quite aware that he may be a psychopath, it's part of the attraction for her.

Women are emotion based.

Rational thinking does not leave much room for emotions. She just cares about what she 'feels'.

Even if they are shitty emotions, she still wants to have them. Making her 'feel' shitty about her decision, is WAY better than pointing out the obvious.

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They call me the cat whisperer, cause I know exactly what the pussy needs.

Nice advice, searching it and ill apply the bit s i feel might work best. Cheers
Nah. A) the "deal" is off so it'l be a lot harder to fuck her B) little worried about her as the guys a psycho (but ironically would make a great PUA)
Leads to defense of him, "he's not that bad" "he doesn't mean too" or more likely, "i don't know". When i use reverse psychology, tell her he loves her and doesnt know how to show her, she then says "but why does he treat me so badly".
THIS^ Exactly, not used this technique much before however, so need a little information/ tips. But seriously, this is the same principle behind why woman defend wife beaters, they have an emotional stimulus that overrides logical appeal.

I don't know if she's waiting for me to say "Dump the lying, crazy mother fucker and date a real man" considering she keeps talking to me despite him telling her he wants me out of her life? tough situation, hence the appeal for advice from you guys .

I feel that dude has latched onto a fantasy and cannot find his way back to reality. I believe she wants to make him happy and/or is being controlled emotionally with his behavior. They both need counseling and I don't think you will be the one to solve the problem.

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I know the guy needs help, but therapy not counseling. As i said, I'm a psychology grad. She could potentialy use counseling, and obviously im not to unbiased individual she need to confide in, thats why she's not my patient, she's my friend.

Doing nothing isnt what i want to do, its a solution based approach i'm after

There isn't a happy ending here. You straw man him, she leaves him, he goes crazy, fucks you up and she goes back with him or even takes his side to the authorities. Best case scenario, she leaves him, he goes crazy but doesn't bother you, now you're with a mentally messed up chick. If they don't have kids together or some real reason for staying with him, she likes the drama/messed up shit. So with you, she's gonna bring all that drama/messed up shit into the relationship. Try it and see. Post the results so at least other men can see situations to avoid.

Quite the opposite, tell her she should marry him, they make a perfect couple.

That will raise doubt in her tiny little head. And doubt is a FEELING.

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They call me the cat whisperer, cause I know exactly what the pussy needs.

No offense, but I know a lot of engineering grads that aren't fit to hold the title.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and accept that you are more than qualified to treat these people (considering I know nothing other than you are a grad); however, it's possible you may not see the big picture since you're on the inside looking out. Then again, maybe that's why you're here. Anyway, I feel these guys need to seek help, and since you're part of the equation, I don't believe your words will hold much weight for either of them.

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"You ain't accustomed of going through customs. You ain't been nowhere, huh?"

1. Dress as a woman
2. Seduce him (no homo)
3. Video tape it
4. Send video to girl
5. Don't let her realize it was you

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RSDTyler

LOL man... these situations are fun for a while. But when dude tries to blow up your car or something... You're gonna regret it. Just leave them be in their interesting relationship... let someone else be that guy who's caught up in all their drama.