Having a ramble, I'm seriously sick of reading comments from people suggesting that online game sucks and is for people that are not confident bla bla, let me just clarify, I have probably had more results from night time but that means I don't cancel out day or online game, stay with me...

You guys are seriously missing out, online ain't that hard and I consider my self average looks wise, i dress well, I take quality pics, I convey some attractive qualities in the pics, my profile is cool and my messages (copied and paste)) are witty, non needy and rapport seeking.

Show me your profiles? maybe i can help..... I bet you they suck or you live in North Korea or something...

You guys can delude yourselves all you want by using the 'Oh, online sucks, it is for the unconfident people who like to hide behind their devices'

I'm not saying you guys are lazy, since you at least go out and chase girls which is better than 'Let's go out to get drunk and pretend to not want girls' like normal AFC's. But most guys with online game are lazy and stick to their comfort zones.

Online game is no different to real life. You still get fatties in shopping malls, you still get fatties in bars/clubs, you still get fatties on dating websites. You also still get ignored by the 10's and the odd response here and there and even some dates with a 9 every now and then, quite a few 8's, then lot's of 7's - just like in real life.

It is not hard to make a a good profile, the only effort is the good pics part where most people fail. Just like in real life where most people take wayyy too long to handle their looks/style out.

I would happily trade 5 days of day game for 5 days of online game in terms of results just by the sheer fact you have volume on your side, you don't have to deal with groups or cock blocks, you don't have to get into 'state' or do warm ups. You literally only have to press a few buttons. You're missing out which creates less competition for guys like me. You can do this in your pajamas or on the toilet at work. You can even get computer software to do it all for you on autopilot - Imagine having a robot that looks exactly like you that will go day game and collect solid phone numbers for you? - how cool would that be?

You can even refine and filter girls! - ok, let's say hypothetically there were 2 identical cities, one being your current city and the other that has less girls, but they are ALL single and looking to meet someone? - which one would you sarge the fuck out? - the one where 80% of the girls will say they have boyfriends or the ones that you know that are single?

The Archilles heel of online game is this:

The most generic problem with online game, at lot of people brush their AA under the carpet and use online game as a crutch, but then comes the date where they are petrified and then they simply haven't had enough reps to practise physical escalation so it is hard to get past that essential physical barrier.

Day game is great for AA and alcohol crutches, club game is great for AA and escalation experience. Mix all 3 channels and your week's schedule should be getting filled up with dates or at least 1/2 which is pretty good IMO and create that important abundance that cures neediness.

Sorry for ramble but I am pretty sick of hearing/reading about people making comments about the whole hiding behind their keyboard messaging fatties thing. It just reflects your lack of results only.

Here is my last date from Tinder that ended with just a make out, (still texting):

(these pics will be deleted tomorrow)

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PEBBLE

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Not bad for an old man

I would echo most of this. Online dating is by far the easiest way to meet women who will actually date and sleep with you, and is definitely a million times more efficient than day game. Sure, it won't improve your AA much, but it will improve your one on one dating ability dramatically which is nice.

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Online game, especially tinder, is great. You can sit on the couch in your boxers and meet women.

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OP...I'll take you up on th at offer of a profile critique. I'd rather not post it and be google-able but I'd be more than happy to PM you a link.

Thanks

I just hate the whole use camera angles to hide pounds thing. Online dating is good imo if used with going out, plus add 10 to 20 pounds to the girls picture so you know who you're meeting.

Dude I fucking hate online. I'll take you up on your offer mate. Be brutal, I need to get this Tinder situation straightened up.

I try to contain pics of me in social situations and as little creeper selfies as possible. Also try to keep my description light-hearted and fun but I'm not getting much traction. I mostly attract 5-6s.

Profile pic is bad, bad dressed, weak body language, dark contrast - use the Bruce Lee or SPAM shirt pic for now until you get a good pic

Get rid of the selfie pic


dress up, look sexy, better quality pics - try again

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I used to do online dating a lot before I got into PUA. My sticking point was upon meet up; the girls always turned out fat when they looked slim and sexy in their pictures. I banged them anyway.

How do you screen out the fatties and accurately choose the slim and sexy ones before meet up especially when they don't want a video chat or will probably show their sexy friend in their place during a video call? Fatties are quite punishing on the nuts when they ride your dick to be honest and I tend to injure my cock when banging a fatty.

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I tend to ignore them if ALL of her pics are like that to be honest. I can tell by her face if she is chubby or not or by her arm chunk

If you're still optimistic and ALL of her pics are vague , then you have a right to be suspicious and call her out on it and request her Facebook or something.

It isn't efficient meeting up with these girls because you were afraid to ask her initially..Don't meet them till you're sure.

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Here is my profile.

Notice the quality of the pics, my dress sense gets a lot of compliments



I don't really think pics with my friends and pics of me scuba diving are that important these days unless the quality of the pic looks amazing and you look good in it. Also, get rid of the girls for 'preselection' and doing the whole crop a little bit off her, no need to create competition.

These pics were taken about 100 times each and I chose a pic with the micro differences that make me look my best. This is what girls do. They take a million pics and pic just one that looks slightly better than than the others with additional photoshop/pixlr.com work to edit acne/blemishes out.

These mirco upgrades all add up and could be difference between a girl liking you or skipping you.

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Great advice mate, will redo my pics soon and post. Do you think women speed through and look at 1-2 pictures then rate like most men or do they check out everything?

With tinder , it's all about the profile pic because girls on tinder are in a casual mindset and are just flipping through. I believe, majority of girls look at all your pics before they 'like' you. But the main profile pic is fishing rod

A girl on pof/okcupid is more in a daring mindset so is more likely to view your whole profile aslong as your pics intrigue her well enough.

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Hmm. If her pics were taken when she was still slim, a fan sign with the current date on it might probably work. I never called out girls yet whether they're actually fat in real life. Maybe it's about time I did this the right way.

Thank you very much. All of your other pointers in this thread also look solid. Will work on those.

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Female here. The only good photos are 2&3. I would toss the rest. As someone else mentioned, your body language in the profile pic is terrible. You are hunching your shoulders, you look scared and nervous IMO.

Your description of yourself is terrible as well. It sounds like you spend your time playing monopoly, making meals from free Costco samples and walk around with mismatched socks. "Artist" is generally considered a euphemism for unemployed. Nothing in your description is attractive to most women.

Even if you don't have a job that pays well, focus on other aspects of yourself. Maybe check out other guys' profiles for ideas.

Guys, the pics are so important. I would highly recommend hiring a professional photographer who will help you look amazing and attract tons of quality women. Wear clothes that make you look masculine, successful, confident and powerful.

Good luck!