Hey, guys.

Sometimes when listening or reading peoples stories (interviews, talk shows, etc) couples say they were friends for quite some time until one day they saw each other diferently.

Personaly, I've met girls I was not very into at first sight but later, as I got to know them, became very intersted.

Right here on this forum I've seen two radically diferent opinions: some say being friends with a girl is 70% of the way, you already have plenty of rapport and confort. I even read something like "friendship between a man and a women is just postponed sex". Others say if you do not get a girl to have sex with you right away you are friendzoned and will never get out.

So, from your experience, how often does a friendship develop into something more? And how do you make it go that way?

I'm personally for the first opinion. I've got currently two gfs and one of them was a friend of mine before we started having sex. Many people think that being in the friendzone is the end of the world, but I don't think that way: the important thing is to be able to get something more.
I dunno how to explain what I did with her, but I guess I just used more and more touching and teasing til we ended up giving massage to eachother and then sleeping together.
The important thing is to be able to move on even if she doesn't want anything more than a friendship. Remember that, even if sex is out of question, she can always be a great "winggirl" (i so much prefer winggirls to wingmen, maybe because the first ones never failed me), so don't loose her!

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It doesn't. You establish what kind of relationship it will be at the beginning.

It does. I can tell you this by direct experience.

There is no such thing as a "friendzone". There is either sexual attraction or there isn't.

All of my friends are at least somewhat attracted to me. I won't bother hanging out with a girl if she's never been even somewhat interested.

If she's attracted to you, then it can happen at any time.

So if the question is "How often does a woman who is not sexually attracted to you at all, become sexually attracted to you", the answer is probably "very, very rarely". Some people who are not attracted to each other, do start dating. Sometimes they get married. But it's a sad, passionless marriage, which I wouldn't advise.

If the question is "How often does a woman who is sexually attracted to you, but you're 'just friends' for now, decide she wants to start fucking/dating", fairly often, I would say.

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Thanks everyone. Lots of good answers here.

I asked this because of a girl I've been hanging out. I believe there was some initial atraction with this girl. The first time we went out (concert) I escalated well and she was not putting up a fight. But I was kinda involved with some other girl (over now) and although we were giving it some time off (wich became permanent) I felt I was cheating on her and could not close the deal. I pulled back, looked insecure as fuck and her mood imediatly changed. I almost felt a click of her interest fading. Since then she sometimes show interest, sometimes she doesn't, and has mixed reactions to kino. It's like I'm getting there but at an extremely slow speed. As in 10 dates to get to the point where I blew it the first time.

Procedure here would be to amp up the kino, eye contact and sexual tension, right? Or am I missing something?

Friendships become more the minute one of you wants more. Either you become a couple, or one of you runs away. Your choice. If you like her, i'd say go for it. Don't be a creep though, make sure you escalate so it doesn't come as a surprise.

I'd go with "Hey, i know we been friends for a while but i just want to let you know, i find you attractive"

Plant the seed.

If she's interested she'll give you signs back she will like something more.

If she's not interested just keep being friends.

Everything has a process, give it time to digest.

Make sense?

Is very natural to be attracted to a female friend.

Is even more natural to tell her.

No worries.

And is no surprise when you see people who were once friends, dating.

If you have game, you can convert almost any relationship. With exceptions of course. Not every girl will want to be with you. And that is something we must all understand. Conpatability is key. How compatable are you guys? Does it make sense to be together?

If it does, chances are high of you 2 becoming a couple.

Good luck.

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It can work to your advantage sometimes. I've got a few girls who use me as their "booty call" (poor me...) because we are friends. They trust me. And they feel comfortable with me. Like I said... it works to your advantage because its easier to get them alone... Once you get them alone, you can make it happen.

Just be assertive.

Thanks to all. Very enlightening.