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dtrak
PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:43 pm 
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In David DeAngelo's DYD, he explains that clubs and bars tend to be the worst places for pick up for the club-goers and bar-hoppers because we are all lower on the hierarchy when it comes to status. Bartenders, DJs, bouncers, promoters, etc. are the ones who are royal.

To stay on the topic of bartenders, it's true if you think about it. How many hot women are they going to interact with in a single night? Don't bouncers decide who goes in or not? That's power. If those women like the club/bars, don't they have to interact with the bouncer again?

As for fucking women on the job? How many people in this world get that opportunity? Get real. The guy can get laid during the week, guy. Anyway, I can't tell you how many times I see some big bouncer dude getting hugs from hot women and turn to putty when he asks for ID.

Now, I wouldn't quit my job to pursue that one, but since OP is already security, why not?
Here we go with the whole bouncer bullshit again, did skills send you?
Bro, as a man you should be high value already, you dont need a "title" to make you feel special.
And if you were to go out, you'd quickly realize how DJs,bouncers,and Bartenders all get some mediocore pussy every now and then, girls who choose them vs. girls who you choose, yea sure theyll get pussy if they step there game up, but guess wat? most of it is girls who preselect them. And you want to depend on that?


I'd rather have my nights off and go out and choose a girl i want/make shit happen then and there.

and have a job i love that brings in good cash, not a job that gets me random pussy while slaving my night away/and thats the best case scenario. Some dont even get pussy.

Point being, you and skills should go be bouncers somewhere and stop quoting my shit. :)

You and skills can see me walking out the club with the girl you were flirting with earlier that night and watch me fade away into a cab with her friends included back to my apartment for an orgy. You cant even cockblock because you'll seem like a try hard and get fiired. And you can stand by that door next to skills for the next 4 hrs of your shift discussing what went wrong. Who knows maybe at 5am in the afterparty you guys will meet a girl drunk enough to fuck both of you at the same time? ;)

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and i cant believe you just said bars and clubs are the worst places to pick up girls.... you just proved you never go out. And David D is a smart man, but his material is outdated.

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You and skills can see me walking out the club with the girl you were flirting with earlier that night and watch me fade away into a cab with her friends included back to my apartment for an orgy.
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I don't think anyone can top this quote.

In a club filled with dtrak and skills, skills will be going home alone, while dtrak pulls the girl skills can't, and bangs her and her friends in an orgy.

I think this post completely crystallizes all of your advice and contributions to the site, very succinctly.

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I've known some DJ's, bartenders and one or 2 bouncers and they admit that it doesn't really help. Girls come up, flirt and hug them, and yes they sometimes get the random piece of ass when the club is closing but it's not like you'd imagine. It's like having a VIP table with bottle service. It helps, but converting to lays is something different. Bouncers, DJ's and bartenders can't really set up logistics because if the place is busy, the bouncers and bartenders are busy. If you're an attractive ripped bouncer, sure some girls are gonna want to sleep with you but you lose the flexibility of choice and your own logistics are screwed because you're working. The chick who wants to fuck you at 1am, isn't waiting around till 5 after you finish and help clean up the place. As a bouncer it's better to sarge the club/bar on your off nights than be the guy at the door. That's when you get opportunities. But while working, not so much. Remember, Attraction is just one small part of the whole game. Having opportunity to escalate and figuring out logistics still need to happen. The girls who turn to putty for the bouncer, go inside the place, and go ADD. If your choices are security guard or bouncer, bouncer wins. But if you have other opportunities for more professional jobs, it's not worth it imo.
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I've known some DJ's, bartenders and one or 2 bouncers and they admit that it doesn't really help. Girls come up, flirt and hug them, and yes they sometimes get the random piece of ass when the club is closing but it's not like you'd imagine. It's like having a VIP table with bottle service. It helps, but converting to lays is something different. Bouncers, DJ's and bartenders can't really set up logistics because if the place is busy, the bouncers and bartenders are busy. If you're an attractive ripped bouncer, sure some girls are gonna want to sleep with you but you lose the flexibility of choice and your own logistics are screwed because you're working. The chick who wants to fuck you at 1am, isn't waiting around till 5 after you finish and help clean up the place. As a bouncer it's better to sarge the club/bar on your off nights than be the guy at the door. That's when you get opportunities. But while working, not so much. Remember, Attraction is just one small part of the whole game. Having opportunity to escalate and figuring out logistics still need to happen. The girls who turn to putty for the bouncer, go inside the place, and go ADD. If your choices are security guard or bouncer, bouncer wins. But if you have other opportunities for more professional jobs, it's not worth it imo.

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In a club filled with dtrak and skills, skills will be going home alone, while dtrak pulls the girl skills can't, and bangs her and her friends in an orgy.
yes, assuming skills was one of the bouncers.
Read the whole post befor quoting the sarcasm, boss.

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Bartender. Duh.
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Lol Calm down, killer. Got some serious hate in your blood.

Anyway, I don't need career advice. I'm sitting here in the VIP lounge about to catch a business class flight overseas. So I could care less what you think. The OP already works security, so a bouncer wouldn't be a bad idea if he wants to meet chicks.

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I've known some DJ's, bartenders and one or 2 bouncers and they admit that it doesn't really help. Girls come up, flirt and hug them, and yes they sometimes get the random piece of ass when the club is closing but it's not like you'd imagine. It's like having a VIP table with bottle service. It helps, but converting to lays is something different. Bouncers, DJ's and bartenders can't really set up logistics because if the place is busy, the bouncers and bartenders are busy. If you're an attractive ripped bouncer, sure some girls are gonna want to sleep with you but you lose the flexibility of choice and your own logistics are screwed because you're working. The chick who wants to fuck you at 1am, isn't waiting around till 5 after you finish and help clean up the place. As a bouncer it's better to sarge the club/bar on your off nights than be the guy at the door. That's when you get opportunities. But while working, not so much. Remember, Attraction is just one small part of the whole game. Having opportunity to escalate and figuring out logistics still need to happen. The girls who turn to putty for the bouncer, go inside the place, and go ADD. If your choices are security guard or bouncer, bouncer wins. But if you have other opportunities for more professional jobs, it's not worth it imo.

^ there is some truth in that, but they usually get the number and met after hours of course depends on the person and the dude still needs to move things forward.

I know bar tenders, djs, bouncers, promoters that never get laid and i know some that get laid a lot. But you make an exellent point, the dude still needs to move things forward.

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I've known some DJ's, bartenders and one or 2 bouncers and they admit that it doesn't really help. Girls come up, flirt and hug them, and yes they sometimes get the random piece of ass when the club is closing but it's not like you'd imagine. It's like having a VIP table with bottle service. It helps, but converting to lays is something different. Bouncers, DJ's and bartenders can't really set up logistics because if the place is busy, the bouncers and bartenders are busy. If you're an attractive ripped bouncer, sure some girls are gonna want to sleep with you but you lose the flexibility of choice and your own logistics are screwed because you're working. The chick who wants to fuck you at 1am, isn't waiting around till 5 after you finish and help clean up the place. As a bouncer it's better to sarge the club/bar on your off nights than be the guy at the door. That's when you get opportunities. But while working, not so much. Remember, Attraction is just one small part of the whole game. Having opportunity to escalate and figuring out logistics still need to happen. The girls who turn to putty for the bouncer, go inside the place, and go ADD. If your choices are security guard or bouncer, bouncer wins. But if you have other opportunities for more professional jobs, it's not worth it imo.

^ there is some truth in that, but they usually get the number and met after hours of course depends on the person and the dude still needs to move things forward.

I know bar tenders, djs, bouncers, promoters that never get laid and i know some that get laid a lot. But you make an exellent point, the dude still needs to move things forward.

This requires the "dirty cop" mentality.

You've got the power as a bouncer. You just can't be afraid to abuse it. And that's where alot of people will have a hard time because just being a bouncer won't get you laid. You've gotta be ruthless.

This is why I suggested sales. Some people need to learn how to be an aggressive guy who gets what you want. And when you've got your next set of golf clubs or rent payment or whatever you've got on the line... You're not gonna be afraid to go for the fucking head. And that's a personality trait. It's a part of you that you've gotta develop. (Everyone has it. It's about not being afraid to bring it out.)

Then... once you've got that side of you built up, being in a position of a bouncer or a club promoter where you actually MEET alot of women will actually be of an advantage to you. Otherwise you're kinda trying to turn a pile of shit into diamonds.

Most girls don't really WANT the guy who's the bouncer or promoter... (they will blow/fuck him to get into the club... Believe me. They will do that. But they don't want to.) They want the guy who was aggressive at life and actually OWNS the club. Strive to be the bad ass owner. Not the bitch boy bouncer.

And quite honestly, it's really not that hard to get in good with bouncers/bartenders/owners. It requires a certain level of social finesse and understanding of the industry. But it's really not that hard. You can be friends with them for the night and reap the benefits. And make more than 10 bucks an hour.
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I've known some DJ's, bartenders and one or 2 bouncers and they admit that it doesn't really help. Girls come up, flirt and hug them, and yes they sometimes get the random piece of ass when the club is closing but it's not like you'd imagine. It's like having a VIP table with bottle service. It helps, but converting to lays is something different. Bouncers, DJ's and bartenders can't really set up logistics because if the place is busy, the bouncers and bartenders are busy. If you're an attractive ripped bouncer, sure some girls are gonna want to sleep with you but you lose the flexibility of choice and your own logistics are screwed because you're working. The chick who wants to fuck you at 1am, isn't waiting around till 5 after you finish and help clean up the place. As a bouncer it's better to sarge the club/bar on your off nights than be the guy at the door. That's when you get opportunities. But while working, not so much. Remember, Attraction is just one small part of the whole game. Having opportunity to escalate and figuring out logistics still need to happen. The girls who turn to putty for the bouncer, go inside the place, and go ADD. If your choices are security guard or bouncer, bouncer wins. But if you have other opportunities for more professional jobs, it's not worth it imo.

^ there is some truth in that, but they usually get the number and met after hours of course depends on the person and the dude still needs to move things forward.

I know bar tenders, djs, bouncers, promoters that never get laid and i know some that get laid a lot. But you make an exellent point, the dude still needs to move things forward.
Yeah... If you can fuck girls easily without being a bouncer you'll fuck girls easily when you're a bouncer. It just isn't the magic job that guys think it is. The bouncers who get laid are the ones getting laid without the job.

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Hi, gentleman:

I was recently emplyed by a security company. Thought I'd be a "mall cop", flirting with store clerks and chating up female customers. Instead, I ended up spending 8 hours a day stuck in a guard house at a factory gate. I work shifts, weekends and haven't had a free friday or saturday night in over a month. This sucks, time to move on.

Weighing the options, I'm inclined to something on the real estate business, sales in general and office work. Real estate is relatively well payed (assuming you are good at your work), you get to wear good clothes and move around all day, meeting all kinds of new people. Sales is also O.K. even if it is in a call center, since call center workers are in general young people and mostly female. The same goes for office work, if you are lucky.

I have a degree, albeit it hasn't served me of much, so I am more than qualified for any of these jobs.

What would you sugest? Am I forgeting something?

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ok so this guy clearly knows a fullfilling job/life is what he should stride for and get girls on the free time is the best thing to do.

But to properly answer his question, fun jobs for a pua who's just young/entry level and is trying to get somewere in the world would be...

in my opinion

-Beach Boy/Cabana boy/hotel pool side/beach side attendant ( i did that, got mad pussy)
-Pizza boy/costumer service ( i did that , dated a couple female co-workers)
-Transportation/Personal driver ( i also did that, i kept business cards with my number on it and would give it to girls after flirting when i was on a rush, also dated girls there)
-Nightclub promoter (did that as well, im not gona say anything about it, lol, pussy wagon for a pua, obviously )

Now i just chill all daaay and blow wind on my balls/Get laid whenever
jk, but i do whatever my heart tells me to do, i hate shit jobs.
Dont get it twisted though guys, you need stability and i had to work for the position im on.
I doubt anyone can just not work and do nothing, that would be a homeless person/wack life.

My point?


A PUA can fuck girls in ANY situation his on

Develop Core Confidence Mother Fuckers. ;)

And is kinda obvious, the more girls you are around in your job the better.
A PUA will always prevail

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