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An exchange about the video between my Friend Luis Ramos and Me:

"Something i realize is that once you get more results with targets the frequency that girls will complain about you just for trying to get pussy is going to increase, For example: Back in the days i didn't get results with woman almost no girls complained about me..."

That's very interesting. The more game you have, the more of a sexual threat you become and potentially the more females may be pissed off as a result (because they grow more defensive about their vagina). This is also because the more game you have, the more Alpha you become and an Alpha is more likely to intimidate than a wussy beta.

"you did a huge mistake at first when the cop came to you, you were being too nice to him and you showed too much fear. This is going to negatively impact you're game because you will show the same traits with woman and woman will find this as a turn-off ( No offense)"

Indeed acting beta around guys will cause me to act beta around females as well: thereby decreasing my overall sexual market value. In this particular situation, I was nice to the cop because I wanted to be on his good side (since he has a lot of power in the situation: and can suspend me from the school if necessary) and thereby slightly damage my alpha personality in order to be with good terms with the authority. This was my rationalization but perhaps I was too nice and should have maintained an ALPHA frame even when under pressure.

In truth this is a difficult question to answer.

However, I will point out this: had I been dominant then the police would have been even more dominant. But the fact that I was submissive, showed the cop that I am not a threat but am rather highly compliant. He does not have to be overly alpha when interacting with me because I have already accepted his reign of authority.

On the other hand, being too submissive would only serve to project an "I'm guilty" frame. After all, if you were 100% innocent and someone accuses you of stealing: wouldn't you be outraged?

So I know that a balance is necessary, however, I do not know where to draw the line between being submissive and compliant vs not projecting an "I'm guilty frame..."

This issue is worth further pondering...
what do you guys think?

"next time someone comes up to you in person telling you that woman complained about you, do not show fear instead show that you are fearless, confident, aggressive and you are willing to physically or verbally fight if necessary, also look at the video were Tyler deals with a Chode"

I agree this is the correct mindset to have when dealing with civilians. However, although I would give the impression that I am ready to physical fight: if a fight actually happens then I would back out of it. Even if I win in the fight, I'll still have to take the shots. There are so many other women available that I wouldn't risk permanent bodily harm over one.

Ironically, if you give the impression that you are ready to fight, then you will get into less fights than if you look fearful and timid.


"Question the cop said: that 3 girls complained about you, What race were those girls? White Black or Asian? If they were black they are probably girls who grew up in White Culture. Its Rare for a True Black girl to complain to someone about a guy trying to get pussy."

They were African American. But I insulted their religion by talking about black magic. Also there was a guy involved who was super ALPHA and kept AMOGing me during the whole interaction in order to impress the girl he was with. So he was probably the one to start it.


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I'm just gonna say this before someone reads the post and finds themselves in jail.

When a cop is dealing with you, and you're the one in trouble, drop the alpha/beta shit. You're gonna end up in a world of hurt if you feel like you have to out-alpha a cop. he has a gun, a taser, pepper spray, and the knowledge that he probably won't have to suffer any consequences. You don't gotta be a wuss, but your alpha frame should be so far down the list of priorities in that interaction it isn't even funny.

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Stop listening to your friend. He's crazy


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I think if women are complaining about you, you're doing it wrong.


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Talk shit back to a cop.... Get in his face and tell him you're gonna kick his ass... Then actually do it....

That will increase your "sexual market value"... You're gonna have so many dicks being thrown at you, you won't know where to even drop the soap.

Stop being such an idiot. And stop worrying about "who's more alpha?!"


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There is anti-male campaign in the colleges today. Tons of feminist groups, women study classes, and other radical mumbo jumbo there that is against men in general. PU is on the chopping block after the whole JB censorship and country wide bans following the takedown campaign. It sounds like you guys are not making it better for us. There is something off about most guys doing PU. The routines are forces rather than authentic. The guy is not congruent but usually pretty awkward and creepy. Women get this shit all the time. Usually, the ones who are apart of the women studies group, feminist, apart of social science particularly social work are on that path cause they had been molested, raped or taken advantage of. Then she has to deal with some phaggot who is wearing a dress or wig and pretentious in trying to show her magic tricks. Not shocking you are being kicked out by Police. They paid money to be at college not to be harassed.

If you do PU on a campus, tread lightly which is not saying, walk on egg shells. Use social intelligence to read the situation. Talk to lots of women instead of "approach." Acknowledge that, they are people, they have interests and desires. You may or may not fit into her interests or desires. Go find out. I have did campus runs years ago. I have no reason to be there so, I do not fake going to the school. I just talk to some of the girls I fancy and see where things could go if I find there is chemistry.


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I've looked at several of your videos. First off, I applaud you for having the balls to approach multiple people, and for being relatively fearless about it.

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1. I would totally ignore everything your "friend" said. He's an idiot
a. It's NOT good when women complain about you. If a woman is complaining about you or your behaviour, then something is going wrong somewhere.
b. Never, ever, ever try to out alpha law enforcement. It's just not a good idea. Also, don't worry about "out alpha'ing" regular persons either. I know plenty of guys who aren't "alpha" but are good with women. You can be CONFIDENT yet POLITE. The two are not mutually exclusive.

By the way, I think you handled the cop just fine.

2. Your videos - Meetjoeblack has SOME relevant points. I get the feeling that your routines are just that - routines. They come out sounding someone pre rehearsed and not genuine. There is no power in a routing if it does not come from a place of AUTHENTICITY. Don't worry - when I was 20 I struggled with the same issue, using "routines" and not coming off as genuine. It's something you'll learn, eventually.

However, I personally don't do "day game" per say, as there is a higher chance of coming off as "inauthentic". HOWEVER, if I see someone I like, or am interested, I'd use a situational opener rather than a canned opener, which will allow them to more closely relate to your shared point of view and comes off as more relevant and thus authentic.


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I've looked at several of your videos. First off, I applaud you for having the balls to approach multiple people, and for being relatively fearless about it.
It definitely takes balls. Especially after the JB shitstorm, I am blown away that anyone would put out content and being associated with it.

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However,

1. I would totally ignore everything your "friend" said. He's an idiot
a. It's NOT good when women complain about you. If a woman is complaining about you or your behaviour, then something is going wrong somewhere.
b. Never, ever, ever try to out alpha law enforcement. It's just not a good idea. Also, don't worry about "out alpha'ing" regular persons either. I know plenty of guys who aren't "alpha" but are good with women. You can be CONFIDENT yet POLITE. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Zyzz was a prime example of a non alpha that was good with women. He had self amusing down. As stated above, women complaining about you is a reflection on game, and social equity. Something to think about. Again, you are ahead of most since, you go out, approach, and you film content.
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By the way, I think you handled the cop just fine.
Agreed.
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2. Your videos - Meetjoeblack has SOME relevant points. I get the feeling that your routines are just that - routines. They come out sounding someone pre rehearsed and not genuine. There is no power in a routing if it does not come from a place of AUTHENTICITY. Don't worry - when I was 20 I struggled with the same issue, using "routines" and not coming off as genuine. It's something you'll learn, eventually.
There are posters on pretty much every single area on college and uni campuses for anti male; pro feminist or femininazi jargon. Keep in mind, some of these women have gone through a traumatic experience with rape or molested and or god knows what? Being a creepy dude doing some social experiment and routine that is inauthentic likely is going to send off alarms in her mind. She may get flash backs to being raped or sexually assaulted. Most feminists are brain washed zombies following sheep and lambs to the slaughter.


OP checkout Johnny Berba and John Cooper. I find they offer something different in regards to being genuine, being more then enough, coming from a place of autonomy. You already are complete without a woman. The aftermath with or without her is irrelevant.
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However, I personally don't do "day game" per say, as there is a higher chance of coming off as "inauthentic". HOWEVER, if I see someone I like, or am interested, I'd use a situational opener rather than a canned opener, which will allow them to more closely relate to your shared point of view and comes off as more relevant and thus authentic.
I would have to disagree with you here. I find day game comes off more authentic however, it presents different challenges and opportunities. I just talk to women supported by genuine interest and offer value as best I can. I will not necessarily get along with everyone or share chemistry with the next woman. What I do is I talk in such a manner where we make a connection. At which point, I will extend the olive branch, and take it from there. I find the opportunity for dates and meeting up again is increased as it plays into the social narrative that movies attempt to display.

Work on social equity. Develop a life outside pu. Have some ambitions. Be passionate about life. When you go up to a woman, have something worth talking about, and connect on a genuine level. Further more, when going up to her, you are not being a dancing monkey or trying to impress her.


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Talk shit back to a cop.... Get in his face and tell him you're gonna kick his ass... Then actually do it....

That will increase your "sexual market value"... You're gonna have so many dicks being thrown at you, you won't know where to even drop the soap.

Stop being such an idiot. And stop worrying about "who's more alpha?!"
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you should establish dominance over the cop. Such a thing can only be pulled of by trained alpha's but it can be done (I've done it with cops who had the order to arrest me on a frivolous accusation).

A cop is like a women: make him comfortable, then build rapport, then establish social dominance. Obviously you don't need to fight with him.

(1) make him comfortable: let him know you care about safety and want others to feel safe on campus. Use bodylanguage like open hands (do not point), soft voice, speak slowly. Above all keep your arms wide open and certainly not cross your arms. Remember: you have done nothing wrong but understands he is worried and has a job to do.
(2) building rapport is the most difficult and depends on the situation.
(3) do not expect miracles from social dominance but cops are people as well and they want to get their job done, respect that and they will respect you allowing you to keep your grounds.

BTW, being an alpha over beta-cops is a very good position to start your legal defense.


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I've looked at several of your videos. First off, I applaud you for having the balls to approach multiple people, and for being relatively fearless about it.
It definitely takes balls. Especially after the JB shitstorm, I am blown away that anyone would put out content and being associated with it.

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However,

1. I would totally ignore everything your "friend" said. He's an idiot
a. It's NOT good when women complain about you. If a woman is complaining about you or your behaviour, then something is going wrong somewhere.
b. Never, ever, ever try to out alpha law enforcement. It's just not a good idea. Also, don't worry about "out alpha'ing" regular persons either. I know plenty of guys who aren't "alpha" but are good with women. You can be CONFIDENT yet POLITE. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Zyzz was a prime example of a non alpha that was good with women. He had self amusing down. As stated above, women complaining about you is a reflection on game, and social equity. Something to think about. Again, you are ahead of most since, you go out, approach, and you film content.
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By the way, I think you handled the cop just fine.
Agreed.
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2. Your videos - Meetjoeblack has SOME relevant points. I get the feeling that your routines are just that - routines. They come out sounding someone pre rehearsed and not genuine. There is no power in a routing if it does not come from a place of AUTHENTICITY. Don't worry - when I was 20 I struggled with the same issue, using "routines" and not coming off as genuine. It's something you'll learn, eventually.
There are posters on pretty much every single area on college and uni campuses for anti male; pro feminist or femininazi jargon. Keep in mind, some of these women have gone through a traumatic experience with rape or molested and or god knows what? Being a creepy dude doing some social experiment and routine that is inauthentic likely is going to send off alarms in her mind. She may get flash backs to being raped or sexually assaulted. Most feminists are brain washed zombies following sheep and lambs to the slaughter.


OP checkout Johnny Berba and John Cooper. I find they offer something different in regards to being genuine, being more then enough, coming from a place of autonomy. You already are complete without a woman. The aftermath with or without her is irrelevant.
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However, I personally don't do "day game" per say, as there is a higher chance of coming off as "inauthentic". HOWEVER, if I see someone I like, or am interested, I'd use a situational opener rather than a canned opener, which will allow them to more closely relate to your shared point of view and comes off as more relevant and thus authentic.
I would have to disagree with you here. I find day game comes off more authentic however, it presents different challenges and opportunities. I just talk to women supported by genuine interest and offer value as best I can. I will not necessarily get along with everyone or share chemistry with the next woman. What I do is I talk in such a manner where we make a connection. At which point, I will extend the olive branch, and take it from there. I find the opportunity for dates and meeting up again is increased as it plays into the social narrative that movies attempt to display.

Work on social equity. Develop a life outside pu. Have some ambitions. Be passionate about life. When you go up to a woman, have something worth talking about, and connect on a genuine level. Further more, when going up to her, you are not being a dancing monkey or trying to impress her.
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There are posters on pretty much every single area on college and uni campuses for anti male; pro feminist or femininazi jargon. Keep in mind, some of these women have gone through a traumatic experience with rape or molested and or god knows what? Being a creepy dude doing some social experiment and routine that is inauthentic likely is going to send off alarms in her mind. She may get flash backs to being raped or sexually assaulted. Most feminists are brain washed zombies following sheep and lambs to the slaughter.
After doing 2 separate degrees in 2 college campuses in 2 completely different countries and continents, I don't think his issue has anything to do with feminazis or being raped or molested. We're hardwired to speak to people we trust, and if a random person comes up to me and starts talking for no *relevant* reason then I get weirded out. This has happened to me several times by the way - guys randomly coming up to me on the street and speaking to me. I didn't feel weirded out because I have gone through any traumatic experiences, I felt weirded out because I thought that said guy had little legitimate reason to be speaking to me.

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I would have to disagree with you here. I find day game comes off more authentic however, it presents different challenges and opportunities. I just talk to women supported by genuine interest and offer value as best I can. I will not necessarily get along with everyone or share chemistry with the next woman. What I do is I talk in such a manner where we make a connection. At which point, I will extend the olive branch, and take it from there. I find the opportunity for dates and meeting up again is increased as it plays into the social narrative that movies attempt to display.

Work on social equity. Develop a life outside pu. Have some ambitions. Be passionate about life. When you go up to a woman, have something worth talking about, and connect on a genuine level. Further more, when going up to her, you are not being a dancing monkey or trying to impress her.
I somewhat agree and yet somewhat disagree. There are some guys who genuinely do better with day game - if so, kudos to them. However, I believe that it is much easier to display positive social influence to people you don't know in the night out situation - you're far more able to bring positive attention to yourself, far more able to have fun and show that you're an outgoing, likeable person, and there are fewer social barriers to approaching during a night out than approaching during the day.

Again, I'm sure that there are some guys who do better with day game, so if it works for you, then by all means concentrate on that.


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After doing 2 separate degrees in 2 college campuses in 2 completely different countries and continents, I don't think his issue has anything to do with feminazis or being raped or molested. We're hardwired to speak to people we trust, and if a random person comes up to me and starts talking for no *relevant* reason then I get weirded out. This has happened to me several times by the way - guys randomly coming up to me on the street and speaking to me. I didn't feel weirded out because I have gone through any traumatic experiences, I felt weirded out because I thought that said guy had little legitimate reason to be speaking to me.
The circumstances are different. For starters, you are a man and we are talking about men interacting with random women on campuses that promote feminism, woman studies, white knights and manginas, and campaigns that are anti male. This male getting kicked off campus by police is not helping matter.
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I somewhat agree and yet somewhat disagree. There are some guys who genuinely do better with day game - if so, kudos to them. However, I believe that it is much easier to display positive social influence to people you don't know in the night out situation - you're far more able to bring positive attention to yourself, far more able to have fun and show that you're an outgoing, likeable person, and there are fewer social barriers to approaching during a night out than approaching during the day.
Its a subject matter and based upon preference. Day game seems to be more productive with the type of women I care to entertain myself with. I have never ended up in a position where I gangbang and toilet cocaine was about to happen following day time interactions. I am sure this happens but, I have never seen it nor do I want to see it. I also feel like the safety benefits of the day are more in a man's favor. I do both regardless.
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Again, I'm sure that there are some guys who do better with day game, so if it works for you, then by all means concentrate on that.
I just talk to lots of people and see who I have chemistry with. Even then, I get out with a woman, and sometimes, the experience has already peaked. We have nothing or little in common and sex is just terrible. I had hit it off with a summer or spring fling. She seemed awesome, had good energy, and the chemistry seemed to be there. It was but, only in the interacting, the anticipation of a pickup but, it was empty afterward. It was like setting off an incredible display of fire works and all the anticipation involved with nothing to happen. As always, I am happy to have had the courage to take the experience on and not wonder what could have been.


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After doing 2 separate degrees in 2 college campuses in 2 completely different countries and continents, I don't think his issue has anything to do with feminazis or being raped or molested. We're hardwired to speak to people we trust, and if a random person comes up to me and starts talking for no *relevant* reason then I get weirded out. This has happened to me several times by the way - guys randomly coming up to me on the street and speaking to me. I didn't feel weirded out because I have gone through any traumatic experiences, I felt weirded out because I thought that said guy had little legitimate reason to be speaking to me.
The circumstances are different. For starters, you are a man and we are talking about men interacting with random women on campuses that promote feminism, woman studies, white knights and manginas, and campaigns that are anti male. This male getting kicked off campus by police is not helping matter.
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I somewhat agree and yet somewhat disagree. There are some guys who genuinely do better with day game - if so, kudos to them. However, I believe that it is much easier to display positive social influence to people you don't know in the night out situation - you're far more able to bring positive attention to yourself, far more able to have fun and show that you're an outgoing, likeable person, and there are fewer social barriers to approaching during a night out than approaching during the day.
Its a subject matter and based upon preference. Day game seems to be more productive with the type of women I care to entertain myself with. I have never ended up in a position where I gangbang and toilet cocaine was about to happen following day time interactions. I am sure this happens but, I have never seen it nor do I want to see it. I also feel like the safety benefits of the day are more in a man's favor. I do both regardless.
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Again, I'm sure that there are some guys who do better with day game, so if it works for you, then by all means concentrate on that.
I just talk to lots of people and see who I have chemistry with. Even then, I get out with a woman, and sometimes, the experience has already peaked. We have nothing or little in common and sex is just terrible. I had hit it off with a summer or spring fling. She seemed awesome, had good energy, and the chemistry seemed to be there. It was but, only in the interacting, the anticipation of a pickup but, it was empty afterward. It was like setting off an incredible display of fire works and all the anticipation involved with nothing to happen. As always, I am happy to have had the courage to take the experience on and not wonder what could have been.


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After doing 2 separate degrees in 2 college campuses in 2 completely different countries and continents, I don't think his issue has anything to do with feminazis or being raped or molested. We're hardwired to speak to people we trust, and if a random person comes up to me and starts talking for no *relevant* reason then I get weirded out. This has happened to me several times by the way - guys randomly coming up to me on the street and speaking to me. I didn't feel weirded out because I have gone through any traumatic experiences, I felt weirded out because I thought that said guy had little legitimate reason to be speaking to me.
The circumstances are different. For starters, you are a man and we are talking about men interacting with random women on campuses that promote feminism, woman studies, white knights and manginas, and campaigns that are anti male. This male getting kicked off campus by police is not helping matter.
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I somewhat agree and yet somewhat disagree. There are some guys who genuinely do better with day game - if so, kudos to them. However, I believe that it is much easier to display positive social influence to people you don't know in the night out situation - you're far more able to bring positive attention to yourself, far more able to have fun and show that you're an outgoing, likeable person, and there are fewer social barriers to approaching during a night out than approaching during the day.
Its a subject matter and based upon preference. Day game seems to be more productive with the type of women I care to entertain myself with. I have never ended up in a position where I gangbang and toilet cocaine was about to happen following day time interactions. I am sure this happens but, I have never seen it nor do I want to see it. I also feel like the safety benefits of the day are more in a man's favor. I do both regardless.
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Again, I'm sure that there are some guys who do better with day game, so if it works for you, then by all means concentrate on that.
I just talk to lots of people and see who I have chemistry with. Even then, I get out with a woman, and sometimes, the experience has already peaked. We have nothing or little in common and sex is just terrible. I had hit it off with a summer or spring fling. She seemed awesome, had good energy, and the chemistry seemed to be there. It was but, only in the interacting, the anticipation of a pickup but, it was empty afterward. It was like setting off an incredible display of fire works and all the anticipation involved with nothing to happen. As always, I am happy to have had the courage to take the experience on and not wonder what could have been.
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The circumstances are different. For starters, you are a man and we are talking about men interacting with random women on campuses that promote feminism, woman studies, white knights and manginas, and campaigns that are anti male. This male getting kicked off campus by police is not helping matter.
Where I come from (the Caribbean) has far less notions of feminism etc (in fact most women proclaiming to be feminists would be outright ridiculed) yet it's still extremely rare to be approaching someone you don't know on the street. In fact, I'd say it's even LESS socially acceptable here than in developed countries. This is from my personal experience living in "underdeveloped" countries and developed ones.
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Its a subject matter and based upon preference. Day game seems to be more productive with the type of women I care to entertain myself with. I have never ended up in a position where I gangbang and toilet cocaine was about to happen following day time interactions. I am sure this happens but, I have never seen it nor do I want to see it. I also feel like the safety benefits of the day are more in a man's favor. I do both regardless.
Fair enough. To each his own.


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Agree with Choc Pua. If OP had been stopped for telling women they were hot, I may be able to see the feminist angle. But he just creeped some girls out so they complained. They reported a guy they thought was weird. Even the way he spoke to the cop was weird tbh. Also, I've seen OP's vids and it looks like he does this at black or mostly black schools. Guys hitting on girls is way more common at these schools than others and black women don't go complaining to the cops because guys are hitting on them or being men. They complained because he was weird. Hell, you could walk around grabbing asses at schools like that and get no complaints.

And as ChocPua says, OP should switch to nightgame. He has a weird way of speaking and interacting that would be easier for him at night game where people are expecting random shit. Then through night game practice he can mellow it down and approach day game again. But he should definitely not be sarging on his campus.


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