I have double digit bank account and nearly triple digit lay count.

Let me ask you, if i was to pay you $10,000,000 to stay a virgin for the rest of your life, what would your answer be?

You are a loser. Sorry bro. you have no business even posting on this forum.

You guys should act like men, fucking is our instinct. Subconsciously you're probably only saving up so you can ultimately get more girls in the future.

I had to pay my parents rent too. So instead, I just split the bills with my flat mate and we both go out and chase girls, host parties all the time with independence. It really is a blast.

Surely, just by being part of this forum, that you would like to meet women? how old ARE you?

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Pebble is right. What are you saving up for? Money is useless if you don't have the freedom of your own place to spend it. It's not true wealth, because you're still being bankrolled by mummy and daddy. You'll be a 40 year old virgin if you're not careful.

Get your own place, stop masturbating and stop sponging off your parents and girls might actually respect you enough sleep with you.

Having a very good paying job is subjective.

To me, a good paying job is a job that pays you well enough that the $500 rent is just a very small expense for you.

For example, $500 per month is a good chunk of expense if you're earning only $1000 a month because you're losing over 50% of your income.

If you were on $5000 per month then $500 is the smallest expense that will pay dividends in vagina in the long run and you're still gonna be piling the money on

The fact that you have to save money this way, only proves that you're just living below your means so you're not actually earning that much, it just seems that way because you're a momma's boy.

The economy is changing boys and girls, supermarkets are having self check out machines, companies are outsourcing their work to India for $2 an hour, technology and automation is bigger than ever. Your boss will replace if he/she could find a machine that could easily replace you. You will all be eating a shit sandwich if you don't manage to find yourself your own business and to get automation to make YOURSELF rich instead.

Read some books before it's too late. 25 years, the whole working thing will be a lot different, trust me. Or at least you better have some skill that no machine could ever do.

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Alot of men these days don't know how to go out and actually "hunt" for their food anymore.

Think about it, back in the day... you didn't just go to the grocery store to feed your family. You had to go out and actually kill your own food.

People in general these days are so conditioned to getting a pay check handed to them for doing some menial task every week. You need to know how to "hunt" for your money and actually provide for yourself.

That's really what moving out of your parents house comes down to... Learning about self reliance. If you fall down, you've gotta pick yourself back up again. That's life. But you're never actually going to start living until you get out of Mommy and Daddy's Kingdom. Create your own kingdom.

@PEBBLE I could easily have a double digit lay count but I won't settle for fat chicks or girls I'm not 100% attracted to, I have high standards to the point where they get in my own way. The 10 million dollar question is a very interesting one. Tempting to say yes, but I don't think I could go through with being a life long virgin for 10 million... Maybe if I was still aloud to cuddle with them.

Loser? Your right. I am. I'm a loser with about 20 grand in the bank.. Other than that and a nice body and a 17.50$ an hour job, I don't have a whole lot going for me, oh well at least I have money.

"You guys should act like men, fucking is our instinct." Again, I'm not going to fuck fat women, I'm not a BBW lover. Oh how I wish I was because they seem to loooove me!

Of course I'd LOVE to meet girls, I don't even think it­­'s my living situation holding me back, it's my location and inability to make solid approaches and execute successful sets bro. I­­'m not sure who the mug is on the left side of the photo but I guarantee you he's getting plenty women.... Also I'm 25 years old.

I wish I had a good answer for the saving up question.. Kinda want to go to college but I have serious reservations about it and it sound like the OP isn't too big on the college system either... I'd like to go to a technical school but I'd have to quit my job to attend. Just really saving up to move out so that way I have money for provisions & reassurance. I could lose my virginity tomorrow if I'd like but I'm very selective in who I sleep with... Sincerely DON'T want to be a 40 year old virgin, it's a fate I'm rather fearful of ... Also, I think I can still get girls to sleep with me if I develop my technique.

so how would you start about moving out, save up for a place first or just HOPE you have a job cause my siblings are good for nothings....one had a years worth of rent paid by my mom and dad but didn't pay anything after that and my brother who is a jailbird literally has his whole house paid off by my mother

(i don't live with my mom and dad so i don't have that luxury) plus i don't want to be in my late 20's or my early 30's still living/being supported by my parents

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Just save up enough to get a down payment on an apartment. A couple grand should be fine. Shouldn't take you more than a few weeks... especially if you have no bills at the moment.

You need to fuck any girl ASAP just to take the pressure off. Sex is no big deal. Right now, it's a big deal to you. This is one of the main reasons why noobs fail. I lost my virginity to a 5 when I was 17 at a house party. She was a 19 year old chubby goth chick. I wasn't even that into her, but she showed heavy interest, so I thought 'fuck it, why not?' and fucked her. No big deal. Increase your lay count with average girls and fatties in order to get good at sex. Then by the time the really hot girls come along, you will be truly confident at approaching and better able to satisfy them sexually. Then once you're more confident, you can start being more selective with who you fuck.

Sometimes men AND women fuck just because they're bored. I fuck fatties sometimes if I'm desperate enough or going through a dry spell. My reputation hasn't suffered and I still pull hot women (even girls who know I've fucked fatties).

The longer you wait for that perfect pitch to hit a home run, the longer you'll be waiting to lose your virginity. Your attitude of waiting for the hottest girls will harm your game. Noobs will always make excuses why they can't approach or escalate. This mindset leads to micro-avoidance, eg. "Oh, she's ordering a drink" or "Oh, she's talking to her friend, I'll wait til she's done" etc. You'll keep waiting for opportunities to approach and in doing so, you'll miss the window. Then some other guy will approach or she will go somewhere else. Then you will make excuses to yourself afterwards, like "Oh well, she wasn't that hot anyway" even though deep down you know the very idea of touching her nipples would make you jizz in your pants.

$20,000 buys you a run-down piece of shit house in Detroit. Or a modest car. But it's not the huge fortune you think it is, especially when you have to pay your own bills, gas and rent/mortgage. Don't get me wrong. It's good to be sensible with money, but you're already quarter of a century old. That could be a third of your life gone already. Angelic 10's with massive tits are not just going to drop out of the sky onto your lap. You have to make shit happen.

Approach indiscriminately to build your state. Isolate. Escalate. Dick in vagina. Get on it now.

Listen to this.
Especially considering you say you have a nice body. If true, there is no reason you should still be a virgin. You're acting like you need to learn mad skillz to get a girl to want you. Pretty much, you need to go talk to her, be normal, and move things forward sexually. That's it. You don't need to win the girl over. If you have to win this particular chick over(because she isn't into you), you need to find a different girl.

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You're not picky, it is just a defense mechansim because you're terrified of women. This was me too.

Why don't you take a small percentage of that $20,000 you have (which really isn't a lot of money) and treat yourself to a beautiful escort?

I know what you're gonna say you're not gonna lose your virginity to a hooker but there really is no shame in it, I'm quite sure this will unwaken the giant from within.

You're defeatist. Lazy. You stick to your comfort zones and so negative. No perfect 10 would want to be a part of your life. Do you even masturbate? Do you watch porn? Which porn star ?

You do know, there is no such thing as the perfect girl?

p.s. The guy on the left is is a smooth seductive fictional character called James Bond, just google/youtube him,

The reason why I'm posting to you with tough love is because I used to be more 'picky' with girls than you

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For the record, I'm a big fan of Ava Addams.
Best cougar in porn IMO.

Bro she is ion my special list

Fav porn stars:

Diamond Jackson
Maya hills
Lichelle Marie
Claire dames
Courtney cummz
Lisa Ann
Shyla stylez
Audrey Bitoni
Gianna micheals
Angelina valentine
Angel long
Alexia breeze
Sophie Dee
Tory lane
Sarah vendella
Isis Taylor
Jessica Jaymes
Madison Scott.
Emma starr
Ava adams
Ashlynn Brooke
Eva Taylor
Dayna vendetta
Nika Noir
Tanya Tate
Christy Mack
Ricky white
Diamond foxx

Hunter - did you know, you can fuck these pornstars for a £1000 an hour? (Not including your flights to LA)

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Not a bad list, apart from Gianna Michaels who looks like a horse. A little known Czech actress called Sonia Red is my overall favourite. She is never caked in make-up like most porn stars. Even in porn, the face is still most important to me.

@Foxe Sex is no big deal? Isn't it rather intimate? One of the reasons I'm so hesitant to fuck a big girl or some girl I'm not attracted to is the fact that these women, sex would consummate a relationship in there minds and I DON'T want to be in a relationship with them nor am I comfortable playing the roll of heartbreaker... In regards to your story, she may have been kinda cute, I'm a sucker for the goth type.
You're 100% right on the micro-avoidance thing, I don't know how many times I've used the "she's talking to her friend" excuse or "she's in the middle of texting someone"...Also I'm not waiting for an angelic girl with huge tits (not a big fan of tits anyways) I just want a 5 or above, is that so much to ask lol? I'm capping off my Christmas shopping today, while I'm out I'll pick up a couple of numbers while I'm at it.

@PEBBLEI AM picky, like I said. I'm 110% positive I could have banged atleast 19 (yes I went through a mental list) women this year alone and made a decision not too... I've thought about buying a hooker before, I'm not above it haha! But the thing is.. You never know which one's a cop, which one has an STD, which one is secretly a DUDE and which one might rob you. I've wasted TONS of money at the strip club and it's gotten me nowhere. I'm not aiming for a perfect ten by any means just a five would be fine.

Yeah I masturbate. My favorite pornstar is Ash Hollywood. My bad on that pic , I meant the guy on the RIGHT, I know James Bond/Roger Moore. Don't worry about the tough love, I'm pretty hard on myself as it is.