There are many ways to see this.

1. You are wasting your time gaming just one girl. Go meet more.

2. Your game is weak. Do not let her turn you down so easily. Make plans with her before hand so she can't excuse herself without making herself look bad. She just controlled you by saying she wasn't open, she will get used to rejecting you.


For now, reject her two more times and then see her.

Just STOP talking to her all the time. You have way to much contact with her and so you're not in demand, you're there whenever she wants. A girl that keeps flaking on you like that is the one running game on you, not the other way around and you need to get control back, or she's gonna lose interest any second now.

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

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Freezing out is for rookies! I don't think you need a freeze out, and honestly I think with the neediness you've shown and her flaking, if you did a real freeze out we'd call that moving on, cuz I doubt she'd call you.

You do however need change the dynamic of these interactions completely. Make her do more of the talking, and remember that YOUR the prize... not her. She's the one who needs to get lucky, she's the one who needs to play her cards right.

A couple other things I'd suggest... When I was about 17 I came up with a game I'd use on women to get them to qualifie themselves to me, and to earn the privalige of having sex with me. I call it the brownie point game. I recently heard on an Annihilation Method recording that Style uses a similiar game where he makes women work up to 30 or 40 points... however I like mine better due to funny things you can do with it and shock factor. When she does something that you genuinely like, or tells you something about herselve that is a real DHV to you, spout off "Hey cool you get 7 brownie points" or 9 or 3 or 4 whatever amount you want it to be it's up to you and intended to seem like a random amount... she'll ask about the brownie points a little, tell her that a woman must earn a certain amount of brownie points before you'll sleep with them, because your not some sort of slut! She'll ask how many, and you throw out some random hge unattainable sounding number... I like 362 million, the cool thing then is you can randomly give her brownie point rewards when she does/says/shars things that you like, and take them away when she does bad things... it's like quanitified reward and punishment... also you can use jackpot theory, I like to randomly give out like 5 million at once if she does something really cool... keeps the girl on her toes.

So I'd try that to get a more C&F vibe, and erase some of the neediness hopefully... but the best thing for this would be.........

Jealousy plotline... be real casual and ask the girl to hang out... go to the mall to buy some pants, get some coffee something like that... And bring a cute (preferable cuter then the target) pivot with you. Introduce them to each other as 'your friend' (yes both of them), and watch your targets attraction switches go haywire, as she now desperately seems to want you.

Doc,

Weird you should mention a points system, as I unwittingly did that when we met up on Wednesday. Deducting points and she was like "Nooo, you can't do that!!"

So I was talking to her friend online yesterday and she said to me that Lioness definitely still likes me and doesn't want me to stop liking her but she does think i'm being a bit "pushy" and that's not good.

So obviously, I didn't doubt you guys anyway, but now it's for sure confirmed, will just chilling out right the situation or is there something more i'm gonna have to do to save this situation?

Cheers

Again..I repeat.
Freeze.Push/pull, bam your back in.

It's funny, cause I read Doc's post yesterday and thought to myself, "You need to have built up a bit of comfort before you can go ahead with something like that, or you're just gonna sound far too presumptious."

So, I go out sarging last night and I'm talking to this girl. I can't even remember what she said that got me saying it, but before I knew it, the words are coming out of my mouth and telling her that she needs 632 million brownie points before I'll let her sleep with me and that since she just beat me at our darts contest, she had earned 10. I had only been running game on this girl for half an hour and as soon as I started saying it, I knew it was too early for something like this, but I had committed to it, so I had to follow through.

She looks back at me and says, "Now that's a good one! If a girl is inexperienced she is gonna try harder to impress you and get points and it puts you in such a good spot!"

I'm completely shocked that she busted me so quickly and so I just start laughing and say, "Oh c'mon, it's just a fun game. You don't like to play games?"

She says, "Yeah, I like to play games, I was just calling you on your bluff. "

So I said the only thing I could at that point, "Great, I like smart women! Just as long as you play the games. "

Got her facebook after that. I thought I had totally blown it, but just remember that the girls WANT to play the games, they WANT you to take control of the situation and make boundries and goals, but you have to remember to play with them, that they're not the only ones playing the games.

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

~ Rye