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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:46 am 
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So, I met a girl recently. I was forward about us going out. She gave her number. I have continued to pursue since I am single. In the process I have met a lot of troubled girls. I brought some girl back to after party. Here, she requested me and another guy destroy her while she did blow in the toilet. I was really disgusted by her. This is one of several instances of girls I have met. The next day, I was back at a girl's place to have coffee. She came on really strong but, it was weird cause she kept talking about having kids and stuff that is too serious for someone who just started to hangout.

Does anyone ever get their oneittus? What I seem to notice is that, the closer I get with women, the more I realize, it was mostly in my head. I thought she was someone different. I went out with a girl in the fall. We met and it seemed awesome. Once we got past the initial pickup, it just was no fun, and she was a bit of a wet blanket. Far from what I like. It would be cool to see someone that was not like that, actually independent, has ambitions of her own, cute, not entitled for all the wrong reasons, and we just click.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:00 am 
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You just learned one lesson about yourself - what you like and don't like. Now you have higher standards and will probably start to say "thanks but no thanks" to girls. Thumbs up! :)


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So, I met a girl recently. I was forward about us going out. She gave her number. I have continued to pursue since I am single. In the process I have met a lot of troubled girls. I brought some girl back to after party. Here, she requested me and another guy destroy her while she did blow in the toilet. I was really disgusted by her. This is one of several instances of girls I have met. The next day, I was back at a girl's place to have coffee. She came on really strong but, it was weird cause she kept talking about having kids and stuff that is too serious for someone who just started to hangout.

Does anyone ever get their oneittus? What I seem to notice is that, the closer I get with women, the more I realize, it was mostly in my head. I thought she was someone different. I went out with a girl in the fall. We met and it seemed awesome. Once we got past the initial pickup, it just was no fun, and she was a bit of a wet blanket. Far from what I like. It would be cool to see someone that was not like that, actually independent, has ambitions of her own, cute, not entitled for all the wrong reasons, and we just click.

As hugge said - solid lesson learned here.

Once you realize women are replaceable, and in general not special, you'll do a lot better... And you've just made the realization that pretty much everyone has shitty qualities and stuff that you won't like about them.

If and when you do settle down, this will also be the case. As you get older you'll just find yourself looking for a girl who has a minimum amount of shitty qualities... or ones you're able to live with.


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 Post subject: Re: does anyone ever
PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:21 pm 
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Long story short
Its just ur dick... Once it gets satisfied, no more attraction for that particular girl.

U my friend, r a true (n typical) man. Salute U :D

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You just learned one lesson about yourself - what you like and don't like. Now you have higher standards and will probably start to say "thanks but no thanks" to girls. Thumbs up! :)
My closest friend is a machine when it comes to pulling girls. He went on a drunken bender about smashing slutty bar girl's self esteem. The more you smash down their self esteem, the more they want you. He got called out by her saying he has no game. He just turned up being a real asshole. The sec she started getting wet for him, he shoved her off, and said she was not his type. In the other room, she tried straddling him, and he would not budge as he is unavailable. In the bathroom, she talked some more shit about handling his dick, and he brought up four some. The girl was into it.


My bigger thing is that, I picked up a girl who immediately gave me her number, and we made plans. She is becoming a oneittus. I hate that. The honest truth is that, I like her, I got her number, we made plans. She is independent, good looking yet not entitled, is attractive and still works out, she has a great job. She does not need a man but, she is not the sort of femanazi that needs to narrate it. Interestingly, women who are independent and not sloots do not need to narrate it sense, it is self evident.


Another girl gave me her number. We went back to her place and she was all over me. I still want the ambitious attractive young woman. I am so done with the sloopy girls who want cocaine and gang bangs. I am done with the whole getting tested every other month cause of bad decisions. Believe it or not, I want a family, I want a wife who is independent of me but, we are better together. I want a miniature me, my own son. Maybe a daughter. I care more about health then gender of the child. I want a future family. I am just in this to work towards that.

I like John Berba and John Cooper cause, I feel like it is genuine. I note that Julien Blanc works but, its been known sense the dawn of time that shattering a slutty girl's self esteem gets a man laid. I do not want to knock a woman down. I want to build her up and I want her to build me up. Unfortunately, this is all so rare.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:37 pm 
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As hugge said - solid lesson learned here.

Once you realize women are replaceable, and in general not special, you'll do a lot better... And you've just made the realization that pretty much everyone has shitty qualities and stuff that you won't like about them.

If and when you do settle down, this will also be the case. As you get older you'll just find yourself looking for a girl who has a minimum amount of shitty qualities... or ones you're able to live with.
Mod, I appreciate the comments. The thing is that, when I leave this world, I want it better than it was. I want a wife, a woman who is beautiful not just on the outside but, on the inside, independent of me but, collectively, we are a better together; she builds me up and I build her up. I want children. Unfortunately, the world is not always so orderly.

I pulled a girl one night. I chose the slooty girl rather than the one I wanted (she was drinking and I do not poach). it was a disaster. She was cute but has so much dark shit in her life, family issues, and nobody there. The woman I want I picked up recently. She is everything I want in a woman If I were to pursue something more long term but, I know, man rarely if ever gets his oneittus. so, I am out in the bar scene, te club scene, day game, and its a nightmare.

pull a woman who wants to be destroyed with my buddy cause he smashed her self esteem... and she wants it with cocaine in the toilet. I am not about to become that guy who destroys self esteem of women or anybody to profit. I want to be the best I can be. I do a lot of tyler freedom from outcome. meditate a lot and see what happens. this woman may or may not like me. I suspect she likes me and has her own ambitions which I like. I will pursue it and see what happens. in the meantime, I will continue to meet more and more girls. the thing is that, the more I meet, the more turned off I become, and the more I see this woman as worth while.

That is just it. She does not need me. If we click and it works, I would not look back especially for this horse shit cocaine sniffing party girl who wants to be destroyed by men who crush away at her low self esteem. I don't care for it.


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 Post subject: Re: does anyone ever
PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:46 pm 
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Long story short
Its just ur dick... Once it gets satisfied, no more attraction for that particular girl.

U my friend, r a true (n typical) man. Salute U :D
I am fighting through what is potentially a oneittus. its been a long time coming. she is into me, single, independent, well off, and has a lot of things going for herself. whether it takes, I had the courage to go for her which shows growth. there are beautiful women everywhere. I have been pulling but, I have also seen what is out there. I am not coming from scarcity but, from abundance and I am done. I know I am not attractive with options. I know being an asshole or even dropping nukes on a woman's self esteem may get men laid but, I do not care nor want to be that man.

I am ambivalent; I feel like the narrative of forever is ridiculous yet, I desire a family, a wife, children on the other hand. forever is a silly model that keeps the society from going crazy. its been awhile since I had anything of a crush. I intend to see it through and whether it works out no matter how short or long term, I feel happy I am experiencing.

not so thrilled by these pulls lately though. its like I am seeing everything I do not want in women and I am turned off. meanwhile, I see somebody awesome who embodies all the qualities I do like, and its amplifying the desire. I am about to meditate some more.


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 Post subject: Re: does anyone ever
PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:31 am 
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Thanks for the responses guys.

So, I did some meditation the last few days. I found this app called calm which is for guided meditation for noobs or you could just let it play through as I do. The following afterthoughts I was left with:

The experience with the majority of women have really turned me off. Something I have come to notice is that, after an initial pickup, I am enamored temporarily however, the experience is short lived. I had a experience recently similar to the coffee shop scene with Brad Pitt. Same time, same place, me and this girl got on well. It was like a imaginary firework display was lit. Nothing happened. There was no chemistry so, I had stopped talking to her. No sexual chemistry what so ever but, I am happy I had the experience.

I had the girl ranting about a four way while wanting to do blow in a toilet. Again, I was disgusted. This is everything I do not want in a female be it a friend, a fwb or a gf (clearly).

I am in a trade school working on getting my ticket as well as an apprenticeship. I finished my last exam Friday. I ended up making plans with a girl. We were to get food but, she changed the plan to eating at her place, and ¨watching a movie.¨ We chose Zoolander cause, it is funny, and I usually do well with it on cause it amps up my state. I self amuse. Any way, I could have had sex with her but, I refrained choosing to fool around instead. The deal breaker for me was the woman talking about her body and wanting children. I also noticed resentment towards men, her pretending to play momma bear, stories about her blocking other men before admitting her anger had more to do with the men not buying her free drinks or showing enough sexual interest in her. When I left, she decided to blame my seeing another girl although, she kept playing with her phone. It was a buzz kill but, I refused to have relations cause of the whole children rant.


After all of this, I did meet the kind of young woman I would like to spend my time with, and enjoy. She is beautiful, ambitious, has a lot going for her, and I look forward to seeing her more over the holidays and into the new year. Regardless, I think I am really looking to be more selective with women. I just think there are so few good situations to be around now a days. Hook up culture is so cliché as is marriage.


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 Post subject: Re: does anyone ever
PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:28 am 
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It would be cool to see someone that was not like that, actually independent, has ambitions of her own, cute, not entitled for all the wrong reasons, and we just click.
There are so many of these exact women out there it's insane. But you seem to be presently hanging out in places where there are women who are not desirable to you. The benefit for you is once you start making presentations to the kind of woman you want, you will be better prepared than 99% of guys because you actually have experience and know how to run a conversation.
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there are so few good situations to be around now a days.
Don't tell yourself this man. Your beliefs create your reality. And this belief has no basis in reality imo.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:33 pm 
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There are so many of these exact women out there it's insane. But you seem to be presently hanging out in places where there are women who are not desirable to you. The benefit for you is once you start making presentations to the kind of woman you want, you will be better prepared than 99% of guys because you actually have experience and know how to run a conversation..
Hi Oceanx,

Thanks for the response.

I agree with what it is you are saying. Actually, I just met and picked up a girl who I like. She is the sort of ambitious, attractive yet not entitled for all the wrong reasons kind of woman. She is career oriented. Despite winning the genetic lottery, she still has an active gym membership she uses, and is just a sweet girl. I feel like it is about time as I have been going in circles with women or should I say girls.

There is the whole, gangbang cocaine in toilet situation I mentioned with the girl I picked up and pulled back to a after party. Then, there is that other girl who makes a pass at me after talking about her desire to have children. What a nightmare? I feel like there are more and more destructive women out there then ever before. What is even more alarming is that, despite the insane behavior, they are still have sex, and getting attention despite the chaotic behavior.

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Don't tell yourself this man. Your beliefs create your reality. And this belief has no basis in reality imo.
I know. Self fulfilling prophecy or so I am told.

The approach I am taking is to approach everyone, talk, and test the waters to see who I have chemistry with. So far, I like the attractive ambitious woman who is still younger then me. I will continue to see her and keep approaching unless I become unavailable in a relationship. I just don't want to stop game and then, I am single again working my way back up.


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 Post subject: Re: does anyone ever
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I assume destroy just means fuck? Otherwise yeah this gets really weird.

I am actually gonna speak from the other side of things. Having standards is good, but you shouldn't judge someone for their sexuality. Morality on many topics is subjective. Now I wasn't there, maybe there is more than what you posted to further how you felt at that moment, but it is very rare that I find it justified to be "disgusted" by another human being who isn't harming someone else in some way.

As you develop your standards and learn what you really want from the women you associate with, try to realize which qualities you seek are really desirable, and which ones come from negative mindsets.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 4:13 am 
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I assume destroy just means fuck? Otherwise yeah this gets really weird..
I use to be this little beta male, goodie two shoes; thought all women were these little angels. After the friend zone, after several flakes, girls disappearing, and banging the assholes.. I found pua. I read The Game and things shifted for me. I feel like it was painful to realize that, everything I was taught growing up about wearing button up shirts and slacks, taking women out to dinners, waiting for sex, holding doors, paying for dinners was all a lie. All a ploy to trap man in this little box to keep society safe.

Allow women the ability to run wild, have a bunch of gangbangs, get destroyed (her words not mine), and children out of wedlock. Why not? Some other beta male schmuck will foot the bills. Hell, some men are raising children that are not theirs cause a woman would out herself as not the good girl she pretended to be all these years.
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I am actually gonna speak from the other side of things. Having standards is good, but you shouldn't judge someone for their sexuality. Morality on many topics is subjective. Now I wasn't there, maybe there is more than what you posted to further how you felt at that moment, but it is very rare that I find it justified to be "disgusted" by another human being who isn't harming someone else in some way. .


I feel entitled to be disgusted as my choosing. My friend who is naturally great at pulling girls went on a rampage. He just said, destroy their self esteem, and sloots will get naked. Sure enough, he went full asshole, started bossing her around, ordered her to make him dinner, get him beers, get in the kitchen make him a sandwich, take your clothes off. Get naked.

It was fucking crazy. It was like giving Julien Blanc steroids. Honestly, I cannot be like that with women. The thing is that, I am not suppose to sleep with these types of women. I find them repulsive and disgusting. No doubt she has several stds... my guess would be the clap and hpv (worts) at the very least.
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As you develop your standards and learn what you really want from the women you associate with, try to realize which qualities you seek are really desirable, and which ones come from negative mindsets.
I have been doing game for a very long time. I found this having been in a very dark place. I am in a better place now, more women seem to be interested in me, and several are pretty sweet girls with great jobs, attractive physically as well as their personalities. Its pretty cool. I just find these gangbang girls seem to be regular cold approaches.


Before this pickup, another woman was talking her wanting children. Sure enough she said she was on the pill before pouncing at me. I fooled around with her but, I refused sex for the reason I stated above. Pua is great cause it teaches a man to gain confidence, meet lots of women, have choice, and entertain abundance. It can potentially ruin a mans life if he is not intelligent. For instance, imagine the gangbang woman finding you to say she is pregnant?

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I assume destroy just means fuck? Otherwise yeah this gets really weird.

I am actually gonna speak from the other side of things. Having standards is good, but you shouldn't judge someone for their sexuality. Morality on many topics is subjective.
This will likely bleed into other areas of your life.

In bold is an accurate illustration of third wave feminism. This is why there is a pua community, MRM, MRA, MGTOW, Sexodous, and so on. Don't say that. You cannot say that. Don't judge her.
Man should be able to say whatever the fuck he likes as built into the constitution; right to free speech. A man should be able to do whatever the fuck he likes outside harming someone. Judging women falls into slut shaming but, there is a reason for it and typically, its more women doing it then men. A cum dumpster for a wife is a nightmare but, in the world today, men are lining up for their cuckold.


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Constitution says you have the right to say anything, this is true. Doesn't mean what you said is intelligent, true or right. Get over yourself.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:50 pm 
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Constitution says you have the right to say anything, this is true. Doesn't mean what you said is intelligent, true or right. Get over yourself.
I see I have hurt your feelings. For this, I am sorry. This was not my intentions.

I am pointing out that, pua, mgtow, and a bunch of this shit was born out of necessity due to radical feminist control and socialist agenda. Saying, you cannot say this or that plays into all of the following. Its the same horse shit group that banned JB across fucking countries despite freedom of speech. China bans everything cause it is a communist country.

I posted about a friend that is natural who went on a rant about pulverizing female self esteem. While I do not take this approach cause, it just is not who I am or what I am about but, there was no denying the approach works. JB pretty much does just that and it gets pulls. I am just not about compromising my character in order to get it done. More of a test the waters to see who I like and who likes me. That is it.

I never been to your neck of the woods. I don't know you. I will say, you will likely pull more girls if you lose ¨the walk on egg shells approach; cannot say this or that.¨ I do not intend to offend people (male or females) but, I am not going to micromanage feelings either.

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