Long story short, picked up a girl at a party, asked her out. She seemed to enjoy the date, we spent around 3 hours together, however there was a time where it was extremely awkward and I might have made myself look like an idiot. It's when she had to go meet her cousin for about 10-15 minutes. I completely had no idea what to talk about with them at that moment. Anywho, time passed, we ditched her. Held hands, and as for win-win situation, we kissed; yes, on the first date. The thing here is, that I don't understand why she didn't text me after getting home. I texted her about 3 hours after we departed after the date, and she took a little longer to reply than she usually would, sure she might be busy but she wouldn't show much interest and she even lied about going to sleep, because she hid her "Last Seen" on SPAM. What do you guys understand from this? Should I text this girl and ask her out for the second date, I know I screwed up by not asking her that on the first date. But what now? Is this girl still interested? I'm still waiting for her to text me, since last night. Thanks.

No, you didnt screw up.
Yes, you should text her and set up the 2nd date.

Assume everything is fine.

You notice what the problem is here?

The problem is you care too much.

Do you think she cares?

Why do you think she doesnt care?

Because she has a life, she has things she does, she is more social, maybe even has options?

Do you have options?

Or are you just sittin there next to the phone waitin for her response?

You think she is sittin there crying like a baby waitin for you to text her?

Exactly, i've said enough, notice the pattern? Notice why she shouldn't be attracted to you?

Girls pick up on these behaviors subsonsciously, any little thing you do with that mindset will turn her off.

Now now, dont worry, here's what you do, YOU GET YOURSELF A LIFE

i kno, is hard at first, but thats the only way you will get girls

Fake it till you make it

Be social, have options, basically imitate the female behavior

Always ask yourself, am i behaving like a bitch?

Is she behaving like a bitch?
no she isnt, you are more invested

What you want to do is be invested just enough, but not more than she deserves, that will attract her.

If you over invest she will sense it and not want to respond.

Ok i know this sounds complicated but you get the picture?

So my advice to you is (sorry if i rambled, hope you understand better)

Dont be needy.
Stop assuming negative things.
Assume it all went well, which it did.
Learn from your mistakes, next time vibe with everyone, show her how cool you are around other people, show her a good time
She doesnt owe you anything
Have a Life, Be a cool guy, Enjoy other things
Be social, have female friends, this gets you even more girlfriends
Get the picture?
Be that cool guy.
Takes work but it should be done and really it aint that hard
And as far as this girl, yea just keep trying dont assume negative things.

Good luck

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I like what the guy above said. Basically correct.

A little more practical advice is to generally wait 4-5 days after the first date to text. It leaves her wondering about you, which increases her attraction for you. You texting her right after shows her that you are very interested in her. I used to make that mistake too.

Congrats on this kiss man. That has to be a great feeling. For the second date try to set it up so she ends up at your place so you can play the indoor olympics.

idk man, waiting 4-5 days might kill the attraction.

Invite her over for date 2. Movies, cooking, whatever. Or have her bring the popcorn.

Relax and "let the game come to you."

Definitely do not wait 4-5 days especially if you know shes a girl in high demand ! (the girls you should be after) if you wait 4-5 days attraction will die and someone else will be plowing her field.

People need to realize its the cyber age you can contact someone on the other side of the earth in seconds. You cant be stuck in this age of just using text to 'set up dates only' or wait 4-5 days.

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I disagree with the advice of those who say to text earlier than 4-5 days after the first date. They probably do this, but don't realize that it's a subtle turn off. If she is in demand, she sees it all the time. If you have a life, you will be too busy to text her. She will be wondering- what if he's seeing other girls, what if he didn't like the date, what if I did something to turn him off, what more don't I know about him? You want her to wonder about you, it will improve her attraction level.

Futhermore, if you wait, it gives her a chance to reach out to you first- which is exactly what you want. You want her chasing you. Girls chasing you can't be rejecting you.

If other guys are in the mix, this definitely sets you apart from the AFC. When you are with her in person, you need to move fast though.

Disagree if you've done well on the date and attraction was high ? why would you want to wait and risk the chance of it going away i know i wouldnt !

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Thanks a lot for your replies, guys. Btw, both of you have good points which is actually confusing whether to wait 4-5 days or not, guess I'll try them both out individually and find out what works best. Anyways, I took your advises and I texted her again earlier today and played it cool as if nothing's wrong. She did the same. I asked her out for a second date on this Thursday. I'm not really sure what to make out of this, so here goes: she said she's going out of town to watch a game live on Wednesday which is taking place in her hometown, which is actually true, but she said she'll let me know. Also, after a few more replies she ignored my last text for some reason.

Here's how it ended:

HER: We might go to *town's name* for the game, so I'll let you know.
ME: Sure, I'll buy you candy so think twice
HER: Ur gonna make me fat!
ME: Ah, me? No, I don't think so, it's you who can't resist food!
HER: But not a sweet fan though, but love cake!
ME: Yeah? What's your favorite snack then?
HER: Nothing in particular, i eat everything I see.. hehe
ME: Easier for me haha

And that's how it ended, no reply so far, it's been over a day. Yes, I'm aware that I might be getting the one-it-is sickness but I want it, for now. So let me know what you guys make out of this.

Ok let me clear up the "waiting" to text debate

Use your fucking head fellas ! !

You can wait a day or you can wait a week ! ! or a month ! !

What matters is how big of an impression you made on your initial interaction ! !

How attracted you made her feel and how much of a cool guy you were on the REAL interaction

If it was a weak interaction she wont remember you much and might not even answer haha

If it was a solid interaction i suggest anywhere from 1 day to a week befor she forgets you

and if it was a fucking EPIC interaction, she will wait for you your whole life

Make sense mothafuckas?

What i do after i get a solid phone number is i figure out when my next free time will be or when the fuck i feel like taking her out, then i text her to make plans for that particular time im available

to illustrate an example, if im free the following day at night, ill text her in the after noon and see if she has any plans, if she doesnt i ask her out.

COMMON SENSE ! !

ok now
back to the Main dudes girl

everything is fine bro
She didnt have to answer that

It doesnt matter what a girl answers bro, all that matters is what you plan on doing
FUCK TEXTING
just play it cool until you meet up with her, thats all texting is for

She doesnt text you back and you are crying like a little bitch, keep doing that and you will lose her bro

Do what i told ya, assume attraction, play it cool dont get needy and see if you can meet her up, dont be too desperate, have other things going on in your life, be understanding of her situation, if you come off too needy she will be turned off

Girls respond to cool guys, she seems to like you but only if you play it cool

I useually give her 3-4 chances if i feel they are giving me good excuses and are actually going to meet up, i just play it cool until i meet em up and then im a fun cool dude and they end up fucking me

If you feel like she is just being wack and isnt gone meet up after 3 or 4 tries then you move on.

Simple

A real man doesn't play games

make sense?

Good luck and stop that onitis now

Heres the cure to onitis

= Have a life, have friends, enjoy other things besides just a girl
Everytime you focus so fucking hard in one thing its just lame
Dont overly invest yourself until you kno forsure she is also equally invested
And even then becareful
is not that hard, pretty common sense
Just relax and rock on !

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You my friend, are fucking awesome! Thanks for clearing it up. Wish I could have a wingman/bro like you. Cheers.

thank you, glad i could help

and you can, if you come to miami lol

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Let this marinate for a second....

Stop being a pussy.

You didn't make a fucking move man!!! Yes, you kissed her. So what?!

Where was this date at? Why were you just sitting and talking for 3 hours? Why didn't you try and get her somewhere that you and her could be ALONE? Why do you think kissing is a big deal to her? Why are you acting like this girl should be marrying you because you hung out for a few hours?

Dude. She didn't meet up with you because she wanted to play dominos. Your "date" makes me fucking angry to read because there was literally NO DIRECTION to it. Just some dude hanging out with some chick, holding hands and walking around. Totally clueless that the girl came out and met up with you cause she was horny and she thought she finally met a dominate dude who's gonna fuck her brains out.... and then.... you pussed out... She didn't get her deep dicking. you let her down man. You let me down lol

Next time, the only thing that should be going through your mind on a "date" is How do I get this girl alone with me? and then execute. No more of this "which kino move am I going to make next?" type of shit. The best way for you and her to have any chance of fornicating with one another is if you get the fucking girl alone.

Golden mindset and advice.

Woah woah, now calm down, shall we? First of all, your post is extremely motivational in my opinion. Taking your advice, I'm gonna go for F-close every fucking time I go on a date with a HB, not saying I played it cool on my previous date, I know I fucked up which is exactly why I'm here looking for some advice. Anyways, I've got more HBs texting me and I've asked a couple of 'em out. So, tomorrow's the date with one of 'em, any tips for me? I know you've said it all but I'd like to learn from you! So, go ahead, I'll make you proud the next time you read one of my threads! haha

P.S Everyone fucks up, especially people who are new to this. Pretty sure you fucked up as well when you started picking up chicks. Cheers, mate.