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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 2:28 am 
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If Roosh's maximum is 8 girls a year and he's spending $6500 per bang, he's certainly not doing it right.

My guess is that it's marketing.

He's making it sound difficult to men who still haven't gotten good enough with PUA (or who want to justify giving up on it), so they'll keep reading. I could completely understand 8 women of slightly above average attractiveness ("7s") sounding like paradise to a guy who could barely get laid, which is probably his target demo.

In reality, if you truly devoted your life to getting laid, you could do that in a week (Tinder and cold approach, combined with being somewhat in shape will easy get you there).


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:04 am 
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If you've ever skimmed a summary of "DayBang!"(Roosh's book) you'd see exactly why he manages less than 10 chicks a year.
An excerpt on the ideal opener, for a woman writing something
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“Excuse me, is that a good pen?”
You’ll then inquire about the brand, the color of the ink,its width, and if it’s comfortable to hold for long periods of time, all with a serious expression on your face. Almost pretend you’re a pen salesman on the first day of the job, doing research in order to eventually sell it to other people with a long-term goal of having a successful pen career.

To show that you’re sincere in learning about the pen, you’ll share short anecdotes about your own good or bad experiences with pens. To lower her guard even more, I could toss out a dash of self-deprecating humor by saying my hands sometimes sweat after writing for a long time (true story), maybe asking if her pen can absorb moisture like a little sponge. Then I’d crack my first smirk of the approach. Of course, you’ll eventually want to segue out of pen talk, because even the most experienced man in the world can only talk about pens for so long, but it’s critical that you start the chat on this innocuous prop.
So yes, I honestly believe he only gets laid < 10x per year.
I daresay Ryan Gosling could go several weeks without sex, while doing this.
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Speaking loud is also a great way to mask mild anxiety. She’s being so bombarded by your strong words that her brain is distracted from your shaky hand or sweat beads gathering on the tip of your nose.
So, walk up to girls and yell "Is that a good pen!?" and then run through the list of 10+ questions.
I mean in fairness, after doing this, the girl probably won't blow you off harshly, as she most likely assumes you have Down's Syndrome or something.
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Smiling will kill your approach before it even gets started because it reliably scares the cat. There’s no reason to smile unless you’re saying something sarcastic or responding to a funny joke, which rarely comes at the beginning of an approach.

One way to help your approach come across as natural is to have a slow style of speech with a flat tone.
For example, there’s no need to say “Is that a good bag?”
I have honestly never seen advice as bad as what Roosh suggests. I sometimes wonder if he's like a parody PUA or something, but plenty of people actually take the man seriously and listen to him.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:13 am 
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The pen stuff seems like some sort of canned opener seguing into her realizing you've fooled her? I'm tempted to try it just to see how badly it fails. I can waste a girl to see that reaction. I doubt I'd get three pen questions in before the girl was like, "Oh, I have to go see my friends".

My only read of this is he's either a terrible PUA, or this is intended for newbies to have a script to work off of and get used to talking to girls.


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