Real status/popularity

Is about developing a naturally attractive lifestyle and personality. Faking I guess is part of the proccess until you actually become that farse ( Which should be something positive by your own terms) and go trough life without thinking about having status etc. In the end is about being your best self.

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I agreed with everything until you said faking. You have to take action but, faking promotes being a bullshit and nobody gets anywhere with bullshit. You go through the motions and lack experience. Over time, you gain experience, realize its not a big deal but, you just soak up the experience. I am starting to become disillusioned by pua. I have been watching John Cooper and I think he is taking pua to a better place by avoiding pua. What if man talked to lots of women rather then approaching and what if women were viewed as women not targets or sets? I think pua is unhealthy but, even more unhealthy is being a man who cannot date or get laid.

You're confusing Mystery Method with the entirety of "PUA"

MM and its derivative methods assume that status and value is the main source of attraction.

In truth, status/value is just one of many.

You don't need to fake anything.

Agreed. As long as you show that no matter what, you are a fun person to be around, then there is absolutely no reason for girls to not like you. I would have to say though that I think status and value should only matter if you go for a certain type of girl, one that would actually care about that. Granted, those are the harder to get girls and quite often the best ones, but everything might have its exceptions. Like that British girl model that was single simply because nobody had the BALLS to talk to her(she literally said she WANTED guys to approach her, but they always assumed that she wasn't single).

Mystery's style is about being fake and simply hitting all the right notes with woman. I don't subscribe to that though, I prefer working on real inner game. Learning not to give a shit what others think is the first major step

PUA does teach some valuable things though that I wouldn't have known otherwise. Kino has helped TREMENDOUSLY. When having a girl punch her number in your phone, lean in next to her with your hand on her back. Simple things like that

Very true, your true "status" comes from within and that's what the girl is attracted to, even aspiring to status (in a social sense) makes you a man on his path.

There's an advanced PUA method called "limbic resonance theory" where you walk into a club and totally convince yourself that you're the owner and act accordingly. Your body language actually changes and you give off tiny micro signals congruent with your mindset. Girls pick up on it straight away and start giving you IOI's.

If you want to try it make sure you claim some territory first though as it seems to work better.

I don’t consciously follow ANY of those rules, but those tend to be things that just NATURALLY happen with men who easily attract women. However, if you’re trying to fake it or do it because its what you THINK works; a chick will sniff you out as being unauthentic, immature, and dishonest.

What men have to understand is that it is feminine in nature to feel like you have to fight those petty battles and play these petty games with women. If you are a man and you are rooted in your masculinity a woman who is rooted in her femininity will natural submit to that which you are. It’s never so much about what you do with women as it is about the place and position you are coming from when you take to action. Women run on their intuition and I’ve seen a study that suggests that women are ten times more intuitive than men(we can’t even picture what that is like), therefore a woman cares more about the intuitive place of the action you are performing more so than they do the actual action. Feminine women are the subconscious and they are attracted to what is in the subconscious of the men that they are interested in. All of the superficial physical attributes don’t mean diddly squat after five minutes of conversation. How do you think a woman knows who to reject and who to accept after an approach? What is it that they are looking for? If two men walk up to a woman and both say “hello”, what makes a woman open to one approach versus another? The answer is what is it in the subconscious mind which is influencing the “how” and the “why” of a guy’s actions in the moment.

It’s never about what you do, what you say, or what you think; Its all about the place within your SOUL that your actions and words are coming from.

If a man calls a woman 10 times in a row, but in her heart and soul her intuition knows for a fact that he is not needy she will not perceive his actions as being needy. Now on the flip side, if a man calls a woman twice in a row and her intuition alarms her that he is needy, because he actually was he will be seen by her as such.

Guys will often ask questions like “So how do I come across as not needy so that chicks will find me as a busy guy that is more interesting?” And my answer has always been and will always be “You become that which you want people to perceive you as”. I’ve never been in the business of lying, pretending, and/or manipulating a woman in to thinking i am something i am not just so that I can get closer to them. It always has its ways of backfiring and blowing back up in the guy’s face down the line. Getting good with women isn’t about faking some act or playing some game to attract them, getting good with women is all about cultivating a space WITHIN yourself that women find attractive. That way it doesn’t really matter what you do on the outside(or what you look like) the women will be attracted to the light that shines from within you.

Its my theory that women don’t necessarily see “looks” or physical attributes when they see men. I believe that women subconsciously see different variations and qualities of light radiating from each person. I live in New York City and can often see what would be deemed as unattractive men with high quality women. And no they aren’t rich; not always at least. The guy I know that has gotten the most girls I’ve seen in my life was a hotel security guard that was six foot three, 350 pounds and he wasn’t much of a looker either. Not to mention, 80% of my clientele are always in shape, good looking, and highly intelligent guys. So it is not what is ON the man that women find attractive; it is what is IN the man that the women more are attracted to.

Quality women don’t objectivity men the way that we objectify women. They’re more interested in how we feel about our own selves than they are about how they feel about us. Any man that truly believes that he is attractive will radiate attractive light from his inside on outward. He will walk like an attractive man, talk like an attractive man, and expect women to be attracted to him because he finds himself attractive first. A man that believes he is unattractive regardless of how he looks will mope around with a lack luster attitude and will be viewed as that which he perceives himself to be. Sure he may get one or two petty fucks from women with their own heads up their ass, but he won’t ever get the fulfillment from the types of women he is actually looking for. This is why the concept of INNER-GAME is the only thing about the PUA community that I feel is actually important. There is nothing else to care for other than what is inside. Men are visual creatures; we are motivated by what we see, but women are internal creatures and are a lot more motivated by what’s beneath the surface.

So guys may ask.. “ Then how is it that I see rich wealthy men with all of the girls? “

And I’ll tell them that the majority of the wealthy people I know feel good about their wealth. And this fits directly into the concept that women are more concerned with how YOU feel about what you have than about what you actually have. It just so happens that most people with wealth feel good about what they have acquired and so women feel good being around that energy. Most poor people do not feel good about their state of poverty so it will be a challenge for them to motivate someone to be with them unless there are a lot of other areas of their life that they feel good about. Although I do know of a number of what would be considered “poor” men who live off of the wealth of the women they sleep with. And that is just because these are men who feel good enough about themselves that they radiate a light bright enough that women want to be around.

So the trick to becoming more attractive with women is to first develop yourself from the inside so that you can shine a light bright enough that women will be magnetically drawn to. If you want direct specifics on how to do this you can grab my new ebook The Secret Laws of Social Wisdom that will provide you with fifty direct ways of developing that inner light.

But in a general sense I’m a firm believer that our thoughts become our words, our words, become our actions, our actions become our habits, our habits become our character and our character becomes our destiny.

I believe a man has three opportunities to correct himself, if he is not yet strong enough to control his thoughts he must control his words because they will influence his actions; if he is not yet strong enough to control his words, he must control his actions because they will influence his destiny. It all starts with the mind; produce the thoughts that you want people to feel about you by first thinking those thoughts about your own self. The people around us are affected by the energy that we give off. If we want attraction we must feed our minds attraction; we must look ourselves in the mirror and think “ I am attractive”, say “I am attractive”, behave like we are attractive, and the world will follow suit. Be the leader of your own life; feel what you want others to feel first. Fix the inside and the outside will take care of itself.

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no i hate being fake - i hate using scripted lines and routines

thats why they have a "natural" method now where you be you. you can start building a social status other than pointing to some random group of people in a club, point and wave to fake social proof.

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Fake it till you make it was the old NLP saying. Rather then try to be the part, you make like you already are, and you move forward from there. PU is a money making scheme for many people out there. Take away what you can from the content that is out there. IMHO it is not the most practical system out there but, it is much better then the social narrative to just wait, get married, let a woman pick you, start a family, wait for sex, and be passive in life. PU to me is about astronomical interactions with as many women you deem at the very least intriguing. You chat lots of people, you test the waters of chemistry between the two of you, and you extend the olive branch to her. You arrange a means of contact, a hangout be it intimate or more social, and you progress forward. What you learn is that, women are human beings just as every bit as good or bad as the next man. Women are not the Disney characters you were taught growing up. You also begin to have multiple women in your life. You come from a place of abundance. Its not like the beggar on the corner asking for a quarter. You are a valuable human being with a lot to offer the world and any woman you choose. The key being, you having choice, and the balls to really go for the things you want. A woman is one aspect of life. You also learn to take up different tasks in life; maybe a dance class, learn a new language, expose yourself to new environments like art museums, challenging your phobias like approaching a beautiful woman. Over time, the obstacles increase, you approach women day or night regardless of the awkwardness in public settings or outside influences. I also do PU even when a woman maybe busy at work. There is absolutely no excuse. Even in this place in my life, I feel like I am at a different level of game but, I not a PUA nor do I care to be. I am just another man on his journey in life willing to let a woman be apart of the experience with me. It may or may not last. And that is okay. I am just happy to have the experiences.

Good luck to you on your journey. If anybody tells you of the fail proof formula or some magic pill at game, know immediately, 1) they are lying 2) your money or resources are at stake 3) marketing has lied to people forever and continues to take advantage of the stupid.