Why are you so desperate to get her into a hotel ? lol your going to stink of desperation when you whip out your phone and book a hotel on the spot.

If your that desperate to bed her here's the perfect way...

Christmas shopping, some presents for family or whatever purchased. book a hotel so you can return back there get changed, shower and then go out for drinks and then return to your hotel again. This way it looks like you booked the hotel just to return with your present etc. Make sure its a decent distance away from home or else it will look lame. Thats what i would do and jst tell her straight up before you book the hotel. Btw i was thinking of booking a hotel jst so we dont have to get a cab home and we can have a drink and fun night, you can sleep on the couch if you want ! lol

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Thanks man! I'm not desperate and don't want to come off as if. But If things go well and there is a possibility to close I will try to make that happen at a private location. Unfortunately, due to my logistics a hotel is my only option at this point. In terms of kiss closing that's also fine, including setting something up for Saturday. I do not plan on buying gift with my family and shopping with her lol. I've known her for sometime and I know this wouldn't be a good idea. I think the best thing to do is to go with the flow. Tomorrow we are meeting and I just found out it's supposed to be really bad weather. If she decides to proceed and meet all the better to be indoor if the conditions get worse. This is when I can open and suggest moving to an indoor spot after we wrap up drinks, dinner, fun and etc.

Go for it dude. You know her better than me

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I think she knows all you want to do is fuck her. Your age difference also bothers her. It seems to me she just wants you as a good friend. That's why she's all over the place. She thinks you'll fuck her and then just dump her or call her up when you have nothing better to do. She has more to fucking lose than you do man. Why the fuck can't you see it? She enjoys your company but knows deep down that once sex comes into it, it will ruin everything. The more you are determined to get your fuck, the more distant she'll be.

I reckon she may make an excuse not to meet you again bro. It seems you haven't seen each other for ages anyway. She doesn't want to be another notch on your bed. This whole hotel thing and leaving a present there is just fucking stupid dude. She will see right through it and be mortified. You need to make up your mind whether to continue wanting to fuck her and scare her away forever or whether being good friends is enough for you. At 30 years old you seem a bit fucking childish. She can see right through you and what you REALLY WANT from her. Did it ever occur to you that she's thought it over and it's not what she wants? Get a clue dude. 30 year old guys are only after one thing and you've just proved it.

If she does know that's great. In fact I'm sure she wants to do the same damn thing I do. Don't most of the opposite sex anyway. Idk but I feel like everything happens for reason and it's not a coincidence that we happen to share many things in common and attracting each other. Honestly if it happens it happens. It would have to be ephemeral or spontaneous kind of moment. Truth in time tells all.

Brief Update:

Ended up calling her before I left the studio here... She answered and we chatted for a quick bit. Just pretty much shot this shit. I jokingly said so I take it you didn't get a bike yet? She said nooooo.... I said well we can just grab a pair of chain cutters and choose something locked to a pole in the city. She then started laughing. I said we should get together and asked what her schedule looked like. She then asked me if I wanted to go ice skating lol. As funny as that sounded when she excitedly asked me I couldn't turn it down. She then asked when I was free next week I said perhaps Wednesday we can make that happen. She then said ok and she would send me the logistics and will get together. I said awesome sounds good... then said hey I gotta clean up here before I leave so I'll catch up with you another time. We said good bye and hung up.

She seemed pretty lively on the phone and interested to talk so that was cool. I kept it pretty chill on the phone. No guarantees but I wouldn't be surprised if she flaked again this time. If so lame but I guess that's just the way it is. I guess from here on out I just wait for her to contact me again with the logistics and I'll go from there in terms of meeting up with her next week sometime.

Hi everyone!
I'm 18 years old and I know a girl from my school for about 4 years. She changed a lot since I met her and now I want her to be my girlfriend. We are friends, but with a surface connection, despite I think she likes me. We danced together on a school event too. I chatted with her on facebook and told her if she can make fried cheese I marry her. Her reaction was good, so I continued. We were talking about going to Hawaii, Dubai and other nice places together after school.
What do you think, should I ask her for a date? If yes, should I do it direct or indirect? I had only one date before and one girlfriend for about 2 weeks.
Thank you very much for your reply!!!
lampa

Dude make your own thread about this. This is my ish... of course unless you want to help me with my problems.

Update

Her: (emoticons of a tree)
Today at 12:07 PM

Me: Is this the text version of the Rockefeller tree? If so, bad move.
Today at 12:44 PM

Her:
Today at 12:45 PM

Her: It was a tree for you!
Today at 12:53 PM

Me: I can't accept that. I don't smoke tree's
Today at 1:02 PM

Me: No hard feelings.... but look I have a proposition for you. Are you willing to accept?
Today at 1:25 PM

Her: That depends...wink wink
Today at 1:26 PM

Me: If you can put that tree on a bake sheet and turn them into ginger snaps, we have a deal. What do you say?
Today at 1:29 PM

Her: I would love to! Don't have a kitchen...only on weekends...What should I do? I'll have to buy them
Today at 1:31 PM

Me: Well then we'll have to discuss this further Wednesday.
Today at 1:37 PM

Her: Ok
Today at 1:58

Was going to keep it going but I had other things I had to do and left it there. Seems like she was going on an ego trip with these afternoon messages. Unless at this point she's down for whatever. I was going to be like "We'll go to my place afterwards. Just bring the ingredients. We'll look at the dolphins out the window as it's cooking" lol. But in reality I would just want up to a hotel and just get a room instead. Any thought's on these text exchanges? Not looking for a decode but I thought I kept it pretty solid during this. I didn't tell her where to meet me yet but probably will later tonight or tomorrow.

UPDATE!

Hey all, so incase you might be wondering how the night panned out on our most recent date here's how... I wont go into full detail unless you ask for specifics but heres how it went... I'll start by saying I'm going to have to accept the fact that she just might not be into me sexually. We met, had a good dinner with great conversation. We walked and help hands and she bundled up into me as it was cold. We stopped in at a local cafe for coffee and desert. While there we talked and laughed and engaged again in eye contact. She suggested we go check out the Rockefeller tree. We took the metro there and held hands again and I played up my kino in public on the train. I then said lets go grab a drink. She said ok there's a cool hotel by the park. We proceeded through the park where we talked and connected more. This is when I went in and kissed her after we were looking at each other. She turned away and I caught her cheek. I personally felt the time was right. However, I can tell she was uncomfortable. Maybe bad timing I suppose. She felt a little put off I think by it too. I kept it cool and continued to proceed. She then said I think I'm gonna go home I feel really tired. At this point I said "no drinks?" She said another time I feel really tired. So I walked with her through the park to the subway, she said she had a great time and I said great. I was going to go for another kiss again but it wasn't right so I left it at that.

I was going to come out and tell her "look (name), the dynamics of our friendship on my end has changed. I'm attracted to you and I'm not sure if you feel the same but I don't think I can continue hanging out with you playing games with the flirting crap." However, I thought that would be a weak move so I just left it to burry. I think I'm not going to contact her again for a while. I think I made it clear to her what I want but she doesn't feel the same. Going out on dates with her is great and all, we have good times but its also wasting my time as I want her sexually. Spread your thoughts... was thinking that maybe I should just be straight up tell her how I feel.

I can honestly say though that I'm pretty glad that I went in for the kiss even though she didn't reciprocate. It made me feel a lot better than not going at all. Plus I think she knows where I stand. If she get's back at me I'm just gonna have to fall back if she wants to hang again. I can't keep doing this crap. However, it was definitely worth it.

So what ended up happening? And i would never tell the whole "i like u a lot etc... Wanna be more than friends etc.." i dont think anything friendzone's you quicker than telling a girl that. The only time that line should be used if you make up your mind right there and know thats going to be the end of you pursuing her sexually, because at that point you got nothing else to loose.

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She began hitting me up on Instagram. You can read that thread in the link. That's the latest thus far.

UPDATE:

Thanks all for the help here. I think it may be time for this thread to come to a close. I went on my date tonight and it was a great time. Kept it chill, escalated, held hands here and there, went in for another and rejected. At that point I just told here later on that night that we should talk after I cut her off while in a conversation. I told her straight up that the dynamics of our friendship has changed on my end. She said what do you mean. I then expressed that I was sexually attracted to her. I'm not sure how you feel about that but you ought to know.

She said she had no idea which I think is BS. I then expressed how I felt about the situation and my feelings toward her that has developed. I told her I was into her a couple years back but I was seeing someone else and the opportunity didn't present itself. At this time she was closing in on her divorce. She asked why I felt this way. I said I can't exactly answer that question as there are many variables. It's just the way it turned out. My perspective has changed and I see you in a different light now.

I enjoy our bike rides, looking into your eyes, your smile, laugh and company, eating out, conversation everything. We then walked for a bit and she said that she understands where I'm coming from but can't reciprocate. She said that she didn't want to get hurt. I didn't ask her why but afterwards she said what does this mean for us then. I said I'm not exactly sure but I didn't want for this to exactly end our friendship but maybe we should stop hanging out for a bit. She got really upset and almost looked as if she was going to cry.

She said she didn't want that and it would be cold if we just stopped talking. I then said well I'm not entirely sure where we go from here. From this point she said that she thinks she's heard enough about this for the night as we talked about it for a while. I couldn't help but not let go and just tell her. So yeah, now she knows the deal for sure. And at this point I think I'm good for backing off and she entirely knows where I stand now.

I know many of you may think this might have been the wrong move but It had to be done. All thoughts appreciated and thanks again for all your help.

Hey all! Now I know what you might be thinking "this dude serious!" Well yeah, I'm feeling a bit bad about this situation that went down after I told my friend I was attracted to her. I pretty much cut her off an haven't spoken or heard from her since. The last time I heard from her was the night afterwards thanking me for the date and having a good time. I ignored the text. She then reached out to me that same day on Instagram and tried to thank me which I also ignored. I'm wondering if at this point I'm being a dick or just the right thing but cutting ties. I feel a bit messed up that I pretty much cut her off because of what happened. I feel like our friendship was worth a bit more to me than wanting to just hook up with her. What do you all do in these situations. Do you try to connect and talk about what happened or just say screw it. I'm not one to be an A-hole to anyone and don't want to loose friends in the process. However, I may have already did.