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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:26 pm 
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Just... no.

This isn't a movie, or TV.

You fight, you get arrested. Good chance you've lost her as soon as you get arrested.

I'm older. I've been on hundreds of dates - this has literally never happened.

Call the cops. Don't start fights.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:53 am 
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Just... no.

This isn't a movie, or TV.

You fight, you get arrested. Good chance you've lost her as soon as you get arrested.

I'm older. I've been on hundreds of dates - this has literally never happened.

Call the cops. Don't start fights.
I mean self defense. Health/life threatening situation. Not picking random fights - thats stupid.

How old are you anyway.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:28 pm 
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I'm working on a revolutionary system I call "bar game". What you do is carry a concealed industrial grade steel bar. When you see a chick you like, and she's talking to another dude, you sneak up behind and whack him in the back of the head with your bar. It's the ultimate AMOG. As he lies on the floor, you can use this opportunity to run an opinion opener. The best one is "Who do you think lies on the floor with concussions more, men or women?" then wink at her. The bar is also great at overcoming cockblocks and LMR.

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Just... no.

This isn't a movie, or TV.

You fight, you get arrested. Good chance you've lost her as soon as you get arrested.

I'm older. I've been on hundreds of dates - this has literally never happened.

Call the cops. Don't start fights.
I mean self defense. Health/life threatening situation. Not picking random fights - thats stupid.

How old are you anyway.

I'm 35.

And regardless - self defense or the illusion of 'protecting her' -- it is simply not necessary, man. The second you actually start fighting, you've probably lost her.

Best to just avoid this stuff - especially on dates.


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Just... no.

This isn't a movie, or TV.

You fight, you get arrested. Good chance you've lost her as soon as you get arrested.

I'm older. I've been on hundreds of dates - this has literally never happened.

Call the cops. Don't start fights.
I mean self defense. Health/life threatening situation. Not picking random fights - thats stupid.

How old are you anyway.

I'm 35.

And regardless - self defense or the illusion of 'protecting her' -- it is simply not necessary, man. The second you actually start fighting, you've probably lost her.

Best to just avoid this stuff - especially on dates.
How about if you are in ser. relationship and there is real situation.

But anyway I get the idea. Of course I try to avoid the fight... however I still feel beter when I'm more prepared if it happens.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:59 pm 
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Fighting is not needed to pick up women, at all. I have never had a guy try to steal a girl or mess with me, ever, and I'm not a big guy. I've had the occasional drunk get in my face a few times, but there's absolutely zero reason to get into a fight with a drunk just because they're drunk. If you're at a bar or club and this happens, here's what you do:

1. Ignore
2. If he persists or tries to talk over you, go "hey" until he pauses and tell him he's being rude, and to let you finish the conversation.
3. Use it as an excuse to move to another part of the bar with her
4. Alert a bartender/security staff to get him thrown out

If NONE of those work, then you try to make some kind of stand. Only girls who want fighters are girls who want violence, a/k/a drama. That is a reasonable progression, and if a girl thinks you're a weakling for it, she's got something wrong with her.

If you want to learn self-protection because the world can be a dangerous place, by all means. Don't do it thinking girls will see you as a protector.

Also - It's funny that you're defending your stance to defend a stance you admit is purely theoretical (therefore KJ).

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:08 pm 
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One of the interesting things that has been percolating in my mind is, why is it that I value men who pull over men who are unfortunately, incapable of or do not? This is something I tend to actually take into account and question in myself.

Having did a bit of introspection, I now realize, this is behavior that women tend to train men like dogs; behave as she likes, she gives sex or takes sex away and your in the dog house under monogamous relationships like marriage or bf gf relations.

Fighting plays into the cock measuring competition of men attempting to out alpha and emasculate the next man in order to win a favor in the eyes of women. This is group think. This is jumping through the hoops of society, of the beaten path, and following the cycle that leads to nowhere fast.

Fighting should be last resort if all else fails. By this, I mean to say that, your life, the life of your mom, wife, children are in danger, and no other alternative is there. If Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali, Anderson Silva can get beat, anybody can. Something to consider.


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Several weeks ago in our local news, 6 guys tried to sexually harass the girlfriend of a college dude. The college dude tried to fend off the 6 guys, got badly beaten up, and got killed in the process.

Some say that this situation is farfetched and only happens to a few. But if you're sarging at night in clubs, your risks go sky high since most physical violence happen at around 10:00 p.m. up to 2:00 a.m. according to police data from several non-Muslim, westernized countries.

If you sarge Friday and Saturday nights, your risks for physical confrontation go even higher.

You can manage your risks or totally ignore them and rely on your gift of gab. It's your choice.

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If you want to learn self-protection because the world can be a dangerous place, by all means. Don't do it thinking girls will see you as a protector

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If you want to learn self-protection because the world can be a dangerous place, by all means. Don't do it thinking girls will see you as a protector
I agree, I don't learn Self defence to impress girls. Thats show off. But I can't (or I don't want) to remain inactive if someone tries to threaten a woman or someone weaker. Its just not the right thing to do.

See I started this thread because recently I saw a guy bulling with someone younger and weaker than him. In such situation you have the feeling that something is not quite correct and can't just pass by.

Later on I was thinking, what if this guy was messing me, what if he was messing if I was with my gf.

What you will do: "tell him politely that he is rude"....

I see the most correct thing to do is hit him in the balls and give him to understand he did mistake messing with you. (And I say again I'm not violent person or a fight picker).

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See I started this thread because recently I saw a guy bulling with someone younger and weaker than him. In such situation you have the feeling that something is not quite correct and can't just pass by.

Later on I was thinking, what if this guy was messing me, what if he was messing if I was with my gf.

What you will do: "tell him politely that he is rude"....

I see the most correct thing to do is hit him in the balls and give him to understand he did mistake messing with you. (And I say again I'm not violent person or a fight picker).
Well, what you have is the alpha attitude. It's like the United States letting the ISIS know, enough is enough.

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haha the point of fighting is normally to defend yourself obviously you get the most confrontations as hellhound said when people are intoxicated and feeling angry.

Its a simple life choice you can choose to flight or fight - If you are out numbered its would be easier to flight but if you have no choice of course its good to be trained to protect yourself.

If someone is in your face and threatening you or your girl (which is happened to me) i jst head butted the guy and he hit the floor and we walked away simple. He was warned several times and then got violent as i walked away he grabbed me so i defended myself.

I Stay in glasgow in the UK knife crime is horrendous here so i wouldnt take any chances what so ever of letting someone injure me or anyone i care for.

THIS ISNT ANYTHING TO DO WITH PUA ITS TO DO WITH LIFE AND THE CHANCES OF GETTING INTO A CONFRONTATION. I'm sure if a girl is about to be raped or whatever and you defend her she would be forever grateful and wouldnt immediately be turned off at the thought you were a fighter.

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If you want to learn self-protection because the world can be a dangerous place, by all means. Don't do it thinking girls will see you as a protector
I agree, I don't learn Self defence to impress girls. Thats show off. But I can't (or I don't want) to remain inactive if someone tries to threaten a woman or someone weaker. Its just not the right thing to do.

See I started this thread because recently I saw a guy bulling with someone younger and weaker than him. In such situation you have the feeling that something is not quite correct and can't just pass by.

Later on I was thinking, what if this guy was messing me, what if he was messing if I was with my gf.

What you will do: "tell him politely that he is rude"....

I see the most correct thing to do is hit him in the balls and give him to understand he did mistake messing with you. (And I say again I'm not violent person or a fight picker).

I think it doesn't happen alot because most guys have the sense not to take a girl in places with obnoxious guys. Like I'm not a guy who would take a girl to a club, but if I had to it wouldnt be a thug club or something. Either way if you want to learn self defense or be better prepared DO IT. SIGN UP FOR A CLASS AND JOIN A GYM. No need to over analyze and do nothing.


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[quote=] DO IT. SIGN UP FOR A CLASS AND JOIN A GYM. No need to over analyze and do nothing.[/quote]

I'm doing martial arts for quite a while.

I was just curious how those pick up guys handle with conflict situations if they don't know any fight/self defence skills. I guess they just avoid it.

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