Hey guys,
I dont know where this topic belongs. My buddy is always inclined to bring out a female friend. I dont feel this helps me or the my other friends that go out. I feel he's a wimp when he brings out a female. I know the girl, but she doesnt do anything for me. I dont need her around. Am I being a douche?

Yeah...sounds like you're being a douche. She's not hurting anything and your friend wants her there. Now if she were being a cockblock, that'd be a different story.

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I feel it hurts our chance of getting a girl

Incorrect thinking. Girls are great to have around because it shows other girls that you guys are safe to be around. They make great wings because they can drop compliments about you in front of other women to make you more attractive. If she's going to be there, you might as well take advantage of it. All you have to do is tell her that her mission is to help you find a girl and she'll probably love it just because it's fun.

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I feel it for you, cmace... Personally, I don't really like the girlfriend of my best friend and wingman. And ever since he got her, he's become entirely pussywhipped, like it literally is anymost impossible to meet him on his own anymore and when she's there he's just not... Himself. Like even went to the point of asking me and some other friends not to talk about other girls while she's present "because it will make her think he's cheating or something" (and it's not like we were having some sort of perverted or degenerate talk neither, just regular banter). So yes, I feel like some people can definetly take away much more energy than they are capable of contributing and I definetly am on your side with this one.

That being said, I would never consider asking my friend not to bring her along, since I really feel like it is a jack-ass thing to do and his own call to make in the end. However, since he is your friend, you should be able to tell him the truth without him being overly offended. For example, I personally refuse to hang out with him on my own if he is going to bring her along, on the grounds that I don't fancy playing third wheel with him. And when we go out as a group, I would say I definetly interact way less with them than before. We are still friends and I still ask them to come along and all, but I am not willing to be sucked into their frame.

Oh, and of course, I agree with JackZero. Give the poor girl a chance. Might as well be surprised.

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Good point. Girls can help but I know sometimes they can be a hinderance to the night because you can't have the normal conversations you would have it were just your friends.

Great points. Instead just saying no, dont bring her... i cleared it up and told him, i wouldn't mind if she came if she would act more like a wing and help us find a girl. He agreed on that.

She or any of the girls never helped us in the past, they just hanged out, shot the shit and milked our tab.

Thanks,

Well, don't treat them like girlfriends. Treat them like a friend. Be yourself. If you are going to go hit on a girl in front of her, tap her on the shoulder and say "watch this shit!" and go do it in front of her. Become a good friend with her, and when you need help from a wing she'll be there for you if she's cool at all.

I think that girls help out just by being there. As someone else here already said, they show the other girls that you are not a threat. They don't need to behave like wingman to be hhelpful at sarging.
Just to give you an example, I always prefer to go out with some girls in the group than none at all. They make life so much easier! You can touch them almost everywhere cause in any case you've got trust between the two of you and other girls can see that and will therefore be more attracted to you in the end. Plus, if they're hot you can always game them and sleep with them.

The only thing that isn't acceptable is when she cockblocks you. If she's like that you can leave her home alone.

I agree in a night game environment it is a lot easier when you are out with girls. They are automatic social proof for you.

"No dude! It's guys night! Fuck girls! It's just us guys. We're gonna go out and drink and chant on the dance floor together!"

This deserves it..... C'MON MAN!!!