So i used to be under the illusion that a PUA was a man who could seduce woman and sleep with them.

But I've surpassed this stage and find it rather, i dont know 'Easy'.

I now consider a PUA to be someone who can have multiple woman in his life who are all in 'love' with him who would do anything for him. Who all want to make him their own. Just by his shere presence and prowess.

I dont know what you guys consider to be a PUA... the key word is Artist.

Alot of people seem to think bedding hundreds of woman makes you a PUA but the fact of the matter in my honest opinion it doesnt. Yes i've been there and done that but getting 1 or 2 tens to fall for me makes me feel like a far better PUA than bedding 100 woman.

Whats your thoughts guys what do you thinks a PUA?

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It doesn't matter really. It's all or none of the above.

You can use pickup to have 100 one night stands, get multiple women to love you or to find the love of your life to marry. You can use it for whatever purpose you want.

I don't call myself a PUA because I feel there is too much ego attached to the title. I am but a man, with a cock. And balls.

First off I don't see being a PUA as a goal. Isn't that just your ego seeking out a title? It's like buying a Corvette or something, you're worrying about status and rank.

PUA isn't a goal, it's a way of learning to attain your goals. Those goals can be very personal and vary widely. Some people might just want to seduce and keep a long-time crush. Others might want to sleep with a different woman whenever they're horny. Others might want your goal of multiple women in love with him.

In any of those cases, once you've gotten to that point I'd say you're successful...

a pua for me is someone who can beat the system against all odds. someone who shouldn't be successful with women, but is on the basis of the finesse he brings to the game.

when a 2 or 3 looking guy with a 2 or 3 career picks up a perfect 10. that's a pua.

consistency. not just playing the numbers game, but actually succeeding where regular mortals fail.

just my 2 cents...

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Of course all your guys are valid to what you deem a PUA and i dont use the title anywhere else barr this forum really.

As ultimateman said quality and thats what i like quality !

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B-but... I get called out on my handsomeness quite often! Does that mean I can not into PUA?

WHY DOES NOBODY ACCEPT ME!!!!

Edit, since I just realized my original comment was not really constructive: To me, a PUA is someone who is in control of his emotional and sexual life. This might also apply to naturals, but there is one core difference: PUAs consciously took whatever steps had to be taken to take in order to get there. And I am not just talking about short term techniques like openers and lines, but about long term lifestyle changes as well. Furthermore, I believe that a PUA who has been doing this for long enough may as well wind up being a natural.

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PUAs are people who labels themselves thusly. It's like Christianity or liberalism. I'm instead going to take your question to mean "successful with women".

To me, someone who is "successful with women" is someone who is completely satisfied with their female options and ability to attract women.

There are men who have slept with hundreds of women that are not successful because they never get the women they want and just settle for scraps.
On the other hand, there are probably some guys with a lay count under 10 who are highly successful with women. It's all what you want.

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Good looks are helpful in becoming a PUA more easily, but it's just one of many factors that can help you in the game. But it's not something that holds you back. Quite the opposite.

Many PUA's started out with mastering pre-set routines, following a clear process, and consciously knowing what to do next at any stage of the game. Becoming a "natural" just means that you're doing it intuitively without having to think about it. You already know what to do automatically, and have the flow, the state of being to press the right buttons without having to resort to routines or preset techniques.

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There are lots of words for a guy who is good with women. A casanova, a ladies' man, a player, a man about town, a cad, a seducer, a lothario etc.

I just never feel the need to say "PUA" out loud. I have wingmen and we talk about chatting up girls or "pulling". It's personal preference. Strangely I don't mind the word pickup, just don't like PUA.

A true PUA is a womanizer that can fuck women at the least cost and effort at the fastest time, preferably with a profit, while making most women happy and content getting fucked and feeling satisfied in a non-abusive, fun relationship.

Tall order, I know, but it's something worth striving for.

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I like seeing all your guys takes on it of course there is no right answer. I dont use the term PUA anywhere other than here.

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I used to believe that a PUA was someone like Mystery, who claimed (at least in the book The Game) that he knew exactly what to do and say to get any girl into bed. I believed there were some "tricks" to use, as if it was all like magic. I remember stuff like BHRR (bait, hook, reel, release), cat string theory, compliance tests and other shit. Later I realized it was all BS and I found out about RSD and others.

RSD on the other hand gave me the impression that a PUA was someone who was on the top of his shit all the time, pulling girls every night, super-freaky-happy and extreme in every way possible, impossible for me to reach the same level of success as them. Impossible to become a "master". It took me a year away from both pickup and RSD to realize I was already there - I was already a "master" and had been that for a long time. And when I realized that, I thought "was that all? is it really this easy?". That was when I ditched the PUA title altogether. It doesn't mean anything. I know a lot of people who are just as good as I am, and they are true naturals. The only difference between me and them is that I consciously know what "the best move" is, and why, while they are acting "on instinct" so to say and can't really explain the process.

So to round up with my conclusions - a PUA is something you would call yourself for your ego. It is for people who - for some reason - think they are better with women than other guys and want to brag about it (and thus demonstrate lower value and fail more frequently).

A successful PUA in my eyes is just a masculine guy who is truly happy in all areas of life and as a result, spreads the love.

People who are confident and have high self-esteem, naturally are giving people and when someone can get to this point, they are successful in my opinion.

Be it they found the "one" to marry or they've fucked 1000 different women, if they're spreading happiness in the world, that's all that counts.

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