Like I said i dont have a job and im gaming as a full time job.

I approach at target, wal mart, mall, bars, dance clubs, coffee shops, college campus (im in school)

I've posted videos and most guys say i'm doing OK with basic small talk.

I'm not really using any game right now just basic small talk and complimenting.

What I've noticed is that when you're not an extremely attractive guy, a girl will look for reasons to tell you to stop texting her. If I run Sinn's exact hot/cold bait/hook/reel/release text game word for word, the girl will call me rude and judgemental and tell me to never text her again.

One more interesting thing to note.

I use this phone app called "snapchat" where you can broadcast photos for everyone in your phone to see basically.

The last time I got any action was when I uploaded a picture of my muscles on this snapchat and a girl texted me basically asking me to hang out ASAP. This was a girl that rejected me or was unresponsive when running SINN's game(the pua who I think is the most legit, and try to emulate when running structured game)

Also another story is, the hottest girl i;'ve ever "pulled" back to my house was a cold approach where I took out my phone and showed her a picture of my body within the first 5 minutes of the interaction. She went from cold to warm as soon as I did it.




Nothign fantastic but above average I guess.

I like Sinn. Out of all the PUAs, his style is probably the most like my own(less the routines). We tease girls in almost the exact same way and have a very similar sense of humor. Sinn offers better advice than %98 of PUAs.
My main complaint with Sinn is what I just told you, and I don't think it's quite taking hold.

I will try to explain in a slightly different way.

What you are doing by walking around talking to random chicks as "a full time job" is not socially normal. I understand that you can indeed get some lays off of dedicated "daygame". I talk to women I don't know when I'm out and about(though I never go out with that as the only goal). However, it is extremely inefficient when she's not giving you any sign of interest, before you've spoken to her.
Out of all of the ways you could get laid, street approach is the single worst way.
Being in buildings is somewhat better. The only time I talk to women on the street is if she's stopped(waiting for a light, smoking, etc). I almost never talk to women outside of a bar/club if she hasn't given me any signal she's interested.
That's all you seem to do. You just walk straight up to her and BAM! That just doesn't work very well for anyone. I suspect part of it may be the hound dog vibe. She can sort of sense that you're just out to hit on women and it's off putting. Most guys who do a lot of cold approach seem to agree that you need about 100 approaches to get laid once, and that is once you are very advanced. Early on, it's more like 1/500 or worse.

Most women meet men through the outer periphery of their social circle. I have a lot of female friends and the number of them who have dated a man they met outside of any normal social context(small party, same sport, work related, same school, mutual friends, bar, social gathering like art or music, introduced by sister, son of aunt's best friend, etc) is four. Four of them have dated a single man that they met somewhere like Forever 21(no common friends, etc). And contrary to what PUAs tell you, girls DO in fact get hit on in the daytime, all the time. It may only be once or twice a day, but that adds up to hundreds of times per year. So out of about a dozen friends, they've likely been hit oh, maybe 20,000 times in their life by random strangers in the mall, etc. And dated 4 of them. Or about 1/5,000.
How do you like those odds, my friend? Have they slept with more than four? Maybe. I doubt it's all that much higher, though.
Most cold approach daygame success comes from women who are out of town. Usually foreign on top of it. No one really tells you this.

Approaching strange women who seem interested while you're out and about living your life is actually a very good idea. It's a great way to add several women your life every year. Doing this non stop instead of developing other parts of your life is not a an efficient use of time.

If you must do it, go where the people who are not from there go. Hang out at parks, near hotels, etc, try to spot women who don't look like they're from the area(fashion). That's going to be your strongest group. If you must go hit on women at Publix, go to the one that's close to hotels where people who are not from there stay. Do not go to the one in the heart of suburbia.

You're in college. Honestly, I cannot for the life of me, figure out why you would be approaching random chicks. Your odds of banging a girl has to jump up at least by a factor of 20 when you two both have common acquaintances. Go make friends with dozens of people on campus, hit up small parties. Your lay count will sky rocket. Stop going to Target. It's not working. Do something that has been proven effective, instead of something that has clearly failed for you(as it does for most men).

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SInn talks about going to the mall every day and appraochign hundreds of girls... he also says he has a lay count of over 100

Surely he doesnt have a social circle that would grant him access to that kind of number

I do talk to guys at college. there is no guide online on how to make friends so i really dont know. I sit with a few guys at school but they never text me or invite me anywhere

Also with tinder and dating apps, in this day and age, a lot of sex is stranger/cold approach sex i think

One other thing.

The hottest girls I've met (and interviewed about past boyfriends) typically find and date guys they meet at their job. This tends to be at a restraunt because thats where the hottest girls work (hostess)

and the guy is either a cook, or manager at the place.

Yeah, in 5 years of daygame. Not 100 in one year, man. 20 per year. And bear in mind, Sinn will bang fat chicks if they have a pretty face and very big tits. He has some knockouts in that 100, and some I would not even consider.

Yes, you can can bang 20 chicks a year in college. And it will be WAY easier than doing it this way(and a lot more fun).
Yes, based entirely on looks. She finds herself horny and has no one to fuck her, so she turns to Tinder. She picks the one guy that makes her extremely horny just looking at him, and messages him and fucks him. By all means, get some kind of tinder bot and spam every chick in a 50 mile radius. I'm talking about you wandering around the city hunting for women to approach.
Yes. Job, church, school, friends of friends, are all examples of people who already know the girl. Girls are vastly more likely to hook up with people they have some small personal connection to. Why? I don't know. Maybe safety or something. Regardless, very few women are going to want to hook up with you if they don't know you, unless their is alcohol or drugs involved. Yes, it's possible. But it's much harder.
The only girls who are going to do this are girls who find you EXTREMELY appealing right from the start.

Remember something else about Sinn's daygame method. He went out of his way to know most of the local popular people. He even specifically said he would try to cycle through this type of list so he could bring up that they both know the same person. That is a huge deal with girls. Especially Asian girls, but that's another topic.
Join a fraternity. You'll make lots of friends, and have more available chicks than you know what to do with.

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OP, your style of approaching can work like crazy when you have the comfortable upbeat playful vibe that you have. For example, a girl who a moment earlier was thinking about the boring errands she had to do that day is suddenly looking at you smitten after less than 30 seconds of conversation.

The OP still hasn't isolated the point in the continuum where he's getting held up. Think of it as a logical 4 step process: Meeting the girl, getting her #, getting the meetup, escalation at a private location. Info hasn't been provided as to which part(s) of this process is the common sticking point.

Why am i getting so many numbers? Because the girl feels sorry for me? i dont get it. The amount of numbers i get is astounding. Never goes anywhere. I get expectations that i can at least have a friend out of it.

I have 400-600 numbers in my phone. I couldnt get a date if i mass texted them all except by a fatty maybe

its a community college

The problem is getting the meetup dude. the leap from giving a guy his number to showing up to a location to meet him is a huge step as a stranger, for a girl.

but yeah i've failed at all the points plenty of times.

And now i have like fucked up memories and all these fears... it's almost like im having some kind of post pickup traumatic stress... its hard for me to be optimistic given the amount of failure i've endured.

My ability to number close is very good, i believe this is because my social skills are adept

the thing with day game is it gave me an element of advantage over guys... i have more free time than any guy who has a job (everyone)

If i bascially just do the normal guy route im probably going to die with a laycount of 4 or something

Sorry im also ideistt. i didnt realize i logged into a different account.

Ok the prob. is getting the meetup. I'll try to help you brainstorm some modifications.
If you really believe this it will seep into your verbal, text and nonverbal communications with the girl. Whereas if you think it's normal, they will be more or less more apt to follow your lead.

You mentioned following a text game guide. I don't know how many variations of text follow up have been tried but I would imagine a varying amount of methods have been attempted.

Could consider popping in with an inside joke or some reconnect on how you met her; and then very quickly proposing the drink. No need to do any somersaults or qualify her or build comfort or build rapport over text. Could try using text to get the meetup only. If she felt a strong and close enough connection with you she may be down to meet.

Another variation is the moment she texts back to call her, have her feel your energy again and invite her to meet up.

I actually believe another aspect here is that even though you are doing a very good job of being laid back in the approach, in some respects your persona is presenting itself as a really cool guy who would be fun to party with, but maybe not as much a sexual romantic option. You are getting IOIs from the girls so this is a bit of nitpicking. However IIRC there wasn't much kino.

Another thing is the topic of conversation was usually on where the two of you were going to school and then you took the #; the convo didn't delve into another topic or give her a chance to see more of your personality and for you to see more of hers.

Another point is opening a girl telling her she's cute could in some respects give the girls the feeling that you are gaming, as opposed to sticking with the situational reason you opened her with and then in the context of the conversation, telling her you think she is cute as something you just kind of throw out there.