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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:45 pm 
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In day game do you literally think of the opener and nothing else when you walk up to a girl? Or should you already decide what you will say after it?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:55 pm 
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In day game do you literally think of the opener and nothing else when you walk up to a girl? Or should you already decide what you will say after it?
In general -- Say hi. Smile - then have something ready to say, yes... Can be a routine or can be natural (recommend natural. Routines suck).

The exception to this is when you actually have a reason to talk to her, or you can come up with something funny and relevant on the spot (IE: she trips and falls and you make fun of her).

After that, it's all up to you. Just talk. How would you talk to a buddy?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:32 am 
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i find that the more i plan, the worse I fail. so i dont plan at all. but i do have a general idea of what i am going to talk about for the very beginning. like I know i will start by asking how she likes the food and then move onto what brings her here.

"but wait, if i dont plan, how do i know what i will say?" through experience and failing over and over again, you will know what to say in what situation. it's like your phone number, you dont memorize it, but you know what it is because you have repeated it so many times.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:41 am 
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It depends man, but it honestly doesn't matter. Women are never responding to what you say as much as they are responding to how you say it.

And your "how" is a reflection of your current state or mood in the moment. When a guy is "on fire" and women are just responding to him positively to no avail; it doesn't matter what he says to them. When I'm on fire I say the most outrageous and or "beta" things to women and the eat it up because 80% of what you are saying isn't the WORDS you are using. Thats the least important part. You're TONE, FACIAL EXPRESSION, and BODY LANGUAGE is 80% of what you are saying. So why worry about the 20%? What you say doesn't even matter if the other 80% is a reflection of a strong, humorous, and happy mood.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:52 am 
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Do NOT plan your approaches.

Master the structure in your head, immerse yourself in people while applying the structure and have fun.

The Structure of the Approach and Opener

1. Close the distance with the girl.

2. Establish eye contact. If she looks into your eyes and pulls her gaze down on the floor and looks back up again in your eyes, say your opener. Start with a simple opener like, "Hi" until you get used to it. You can progress later on into more memorable openers that help girls think about you after your approach. If you did not see any of these nonverbal cues, eject and approach the next girl. Do NOT waste your time on non-submissive girls.

3. Offer your hand so she can shake it. When she takes your hand, hold her hand longer than necessary while you're looking deep into her eyes. Think about pounding her pussy real hard while you're looking into her eyes. If the girl did not take your hand, politely eject and approach the next girl. Do NOT waste your time on girls who cannot comply with your basic nonverbal compliance tests.

4. Give her a fun time with a conversation that jumps from one topic to the next. Only focus on positive, masculine, emotional and feel good topics. Stay away from feminine, negative, logical and factual topics. When the girl is having a fun time with you go for an isolation like an instadate. If she doesn't comply, get her phone number. If you failed to give the girl a fun time, do NOT get her number or attempt an isolation bounce. Politely eject and sarge her again the next time.

Examples of feminine topics: gossip, crushes, hot men and hunks

Examples of negative topics: death, sadness

Examples of logical topics: philosophy, mathematics, politics

Examples of factual topics: baseball statistics, the stockmarket

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:24 am 
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Just say something.

You have NO idea how she's going to respond.

Make a move > Read > React > Repeat


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:27 am 
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Trust me on this one. Most girls think oh fuck what does this jerk want when you go up to them.


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