How to move foward after 7 years of being the nice guy?



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:45 am 
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Hello community, I would like to receive as much advices as I possibly can. I will give as much information as I can to receive a appropriate answer.

She has been my sister bestfriend since 7 years. Im 28, she is 27 and my sister is 26 years old. They got tattoo'd together. My sister tattoo says paradise and her says imagination.

I never had a good relationship with my sister. She always follow her feelings. If she finds a small little thing she dislike she becomes a true bitch; saying it out loud, making a case out of it and removing whatever she did that was nice. She is generally somewhat nice and funny until she dislike something. Nothing bad is meaningless and she never forgive. Even if I call her for weeks, share cool stuff and show love... She answer everything and become positive but never truly. She is still ready to fuck me up if i do something she dislike or just plain go cold because of the past. Right now i just stop communicating with her after weeks of being nice because she never calls me back.

The girl. Her father is a police officer who values honesty and her mother values being cool. She has those values deep inside her. She is also respectuous, fun driven, very social, intuitive, emotional and nice too everybody. I suspect she might be submissive to a man she likes but im not 100% sure. She is still in school and a few months away from becoming a social worker. She is serious in her studies. She likes going out with her friends and snowboard.

Me well, I lost my father who commited suicide when I was 14, that kind off fucked my education. I am very smart but the emotional part of me is relatively broken. I had a therapist and she eventually became my friend. I saw her when i was 15 and she notice i had the comprehesion and analyze of a 60 years old and the emotions of a 9 years old. I am still looking for myself, doing shit jobs one after another while trying to find my passion. I like computers, metaphysics and astrophysics. Not really subjects the girl can enjoy.

Now lets get into serious business. I want to sleep with her or to become her boyfriend. I would be fine with any of those. I'm pretty sure I love her, i just feel so good around her, (after the anxious part has been gone) when she looks at me I feel like a man. I am ready to do whatever it takes, i just dont want to fuck it up but sometimes i dont want to fuck it up so much that i become boring. When people ask her about why shes not going out with me, she says : "hes cute but he lies and he dosent take care of himself" Do I have to mention all the bad things my sister told her about me? Some was true but some is just bulllshit and most of it is not actualized. I never lied to the girl, but i did lie many times in my life too get what I want.

Two years ago, at the mariage of my mom, we had good times and she danced with me. After a few seconds she took me in her arms feeling secure and giving me the anime eyes. I freaked out and did nothing.

Few months ago we went to dinner with my sister and all her friends. I neg the girl in the beginning gently laughing at her being late and sending text to a home. After eaten i ask her lots of chode questions. People around me shared the value of me. In the end, my sister said about how i got fired from tim horton because of my big sausage joke and the girl came and ask for a second hug. Again I freaked out and did nothing and she head back frustrated.

If ud to ask me, i would do anything to get her. I would explore her body and soul like no other man could do. But when it gets real i tend to freak out because of so much bad past experiences of mine. If i had her isolated and giving me permission oh man she would never belive. She tends to go cold the day after those things. Right now i talk to her on facebook, she answer my question and ask back. She likes it when i give her value. She never message me. Unless she has a reason. i think she view sex as thepinnacle of a good night. So idk what to do from here. Shes not really my friend, probably doesnt consider me as such. I want to get her isolated idk how andwould not know what to say. Perphaps i might be better to have her legs open before I talk about my love? Im kind of stuck because she will more stimulated with a night with all her friends but that also makes it that. Much harder for me.

I am lost. what are my next steps?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:23 am 
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Firstly although you can not change the past, you can change the future. If you've lied, stop. Or become better at telling them or not such extravagant ones. Also start looking after yourself, if you haven't already.

I'd say if you carry on chatting without a purpose you're going to end up in the friendzone. She desires a man, display your value to her. Then build a comfort zone. By the sounds of things, she probably does like you but you're borderline in her back pocket at the moment. Make her want you, not you wanting her.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:51 am 
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Hey Conciousluv

You have to first work on developing yourself into the man that can penetrate that girl with the love she is looking for. So far, what have you displayed that would be a reflection of you being a fit partner for a relationship? Not to mention; why would it be YOUR idea to be in a relationship? How do you benefit from this? What changed when you enter a relationship other than the loss of your ability to be with other women? Why are you handing over your freedom without being prompted to by a woman who loves you? A woman can't respect that. Its not like the woman isn't already sleeping with you and spending time with you. Its not like she isn't already doing all the things that girlfriends do.. So why would you want a relationship? Its weakness. Guys need to understand this.

Now there is nothing wrong with entering a relationship with a girl who loves you, and wants a relationship with YOU. You grant her that because it will make her happier and give her more security. But for it to be the males idea? Thats just silly and offers no real benefit to him.

So first you need to develop some basic male vs female understandings, you need the knowledge and you need the wisdom. I'd suggest you do some reading. Check out books like the 60 Years of Challenge, The Secret Laws of Social Wisdom, My Secret Garden.

Those will offer you the proper perspectives to operate from.

You just can't expect to go from 0-100 in just one day or week. You have to work on your personal develop so you can raise to a level in which you are attractive to more people. You have to take more risk and deal with more rejection. These things will build your character into one that is respected and magnetic to the people around you.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:40 am 
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You're afraid to touch and be touched. Therefore, you're finding it hard to kino escalate. If you cannot touch a girl and escalate those touches toward sex, you cannot really get the girl.

Start petting a pet pussy cat and the cat will rub her body against your legs or arms. Get used to that. Next, when you're out and about, meet new people and shake their hands. Hold their hands longer than necessary when you're talking with them. Get used to this.

Practice every day.

Read and memorize to heart Vin Di Carlo's Escalation Ladder. It's available for free online. Search it on Google. As you get more confident with touch, you'll do better if not with this girl, then with other girls.

It's pretty useless to isolate a girl if you cannot kino escalate towards sex so fix your fear of touching and getting touched first.

Touch triggers oxytocin release. Oxytocin is the trust hormone. Without enough trust from the girl, she will not have sex with you.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:34 am 
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i just dont want to fuck it up
Not wanting to fuck it up is not a productive place to start. You have to be willing to risk in order to get the goal.


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