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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:38 am 
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Bro, She's a flake sorry to say this but shes just your stereotypical flakey chick.

Ocean has gave great advice - Its simple push/pull when you uninvited her you had her emotionally invested !

Thats what you have to do again ! Shes comfortable and friendzone is comfortable but when she doesnt get what she wants AKA uninvited she freaks out sending 4-5 messages ! All you got to do is push/pull build her up and knock her down :) !

I had a date on saturday all day i spent with this check and we got pretty wasted but i was in a bar and every girl in the place was watching me with this 9 so i sat and watched some boxing while this 9 craved for my attention. I gave her it but not like every other guy did. Woman when emotionally invested are simple to work. She even said to me 'I'm so glad im here with you so no one can steal you' Dont know what the means but seriously dude listen to what Ocean is saying.
Where would you guys go from here then? I mean I can contact her and see whats up or just hang back. I obviously want to sleep with this girl and score the next time we're together. However, how am I supposed to do this if I uninvited her to an event. That could have destroyed our friendship. Anyway, I was thinking about opening by just saying hey whats up? In terms of getting her to meet... a few things, 1.) a gallery show that I know she would like locally. 2.) meet and bike together which we both love to do 3.) go for a walk in the park which she enjoys to do. In the process how would you guy handle logistics in terms of pulling her to a private location. Since I don't have a spot will a hotel or Airbnb due. Should I have these things together or just make it happen while with her. Trying to keep cost down of course. But first things first and that's me trying to figure out how to reinitiate contact.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:23 am 
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I obviously want to sleep with this girl and score the next time we're together. However, how am I supposed to do this if I uninvited her to an event.
I told you how on the last page but you wanted her too much and were too intent on telling her all the factual data pertaining to the situation rather than holding steady and maintaining the frame of being a mysterious challenge her brain could work on trying to nab for herself. Meet more women.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:21 am 
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I obviously want to sleep with this girl and score the next time we're together. However, how am I supposed to do this if I uninvited her to an event.
I told you how on the last page but you wanted her too much and were too intent on telling her all the factual data pertaining to the situation rather than holding steady and maintaining the frame of being a mysterious challenge her brain could work on trying to nab for herself. Meet more women.
I mean theres gotta be a way to come out of this. Do you contact, wait, bail? Meeting other women isn't the problem. How do you make a come back. I think initiation for another meet has to be solid.


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Without the core abundant frame, suggesting "pua moves" was fruitless because the girl was being held on to too tightly.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:18 am 
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Only way you'll lay her now is by going balls out and charming her. Going to have to ask her on a proper date and grind it out with persistence. She knows your hand now so theres no way around it ! your just going to have to bite the bullet and take her on dates until she wants to put out :) !

Personally this is what i would do in your situation...
Text her this -

Hey hows things ? Sorry i havent text you in a while ! Hecticness busy lad these last few days. I had an ideaa btw and you might enjoy it ! x

If she responds positively asking what you have been upto etc there is still a hope.
This way your catching her attention by telling her you have an idea but yet your apologising not for cancelling on her but she will feel some sort of relief from you saying sorry.
When she responds asking what your idea is. DO NOT TELL HER what it is yet ! play with her.... 'Well if i tell you you have to agree too it !' She will more than likely reply with i need to know what it is first.

Then just refuse to tell her ! just say well I KNOW YOU WOULD LOVE IT BUT IF YOU WONT AGREEEEE THE FINE !!! lol

She will agree ! Next move dont tell her after shes agree'd! tell her she'll get something delivered which will tell her what it is and when! Send her flowers with the time date and where to meet you ! Low budget rose if you fancy !

She will be flattered and her mind will be going crazy with what it is. Take her to your Art show thing and dinner ESCALATE LIKE CRAZY IN THE ART SHOW ! Walk behind her hold her hips ! Say come see this, put your hand out for her too take it etc ! go for drinks after and kiss close possibly lead to full close.

This is just basic charming but has mystery to it ! Its the only way you'll take her on the emotional roller coaster she wants. I've done it and it works if you know how to play it.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:47 pm 
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Only way you'll lay her now is by going balls out and charming her. Going to have to ask her on a proper date and grind it out with persistence. She knows your hand now so theres no way around it ! your just going to have to bite the bullet and take her on dates until she wants to put out :) !

Personally this is what i would do in your situation...
Text her this -

Hey hows things ? Sorry i havent text you in a while ! Hecticness busy lad these last few days. I had an ideaa btw and you might enjoy it ! x

If she responds positively asking what you have been upto etc there is still a hope.
This way your catching her attention by telling her you have an idea but yet your apologising not for cancelling on her but she will feel some sort of relief from you saying sorry.
When she responds asking what your idea is. DO NOT TELL HER what it is yet ! play with her.... 'Well if i tell you you have to agree too it !' She will more than likely reply with i need to know what it is first.

Then just refuse to tell her ! just say well I KNOW YOU WOULD LOVE IT BUT IF YOU WONT AGREEEEE THE FINE !!! lol

She will agree ! Next move dont tell her after shes agree'd! tell her she'll get something delivered which will tell her what it is and when! Send her flowers with the time date and where to meet you ! Low budget rose if you fancy !

She will be flattered and her mind will be going crazy with what it is. Take her to your Art show thing and dinner ESCALATE LIKE CRAZY IN THE ART SHOW ! Walk behind her hold her hips ! Say come see this, put your hand out for her too take it etc ! go for drinks after and kiss close possibly lead to full close.

This is just basic charming but has mystery to it ! Its the only way you'll take her on the emotional roller coaster she wants. I've done it and it works if you know how to play it.
Solid plan dude... is this something you'll take on mid this week or save for next week. I was thinking about tackling this next week say Tuesday or something.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:15 pm 
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Yes do it next week !

There isnt a guarantee it will work though but it will possibly get the emotion back that shes lost always worth a try :)

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Yes do it next week !

There isnt a guarantee it will work though but it will possibly get the emotion back that shes lost always worth a try :)

GOOD LUCK

Right on man! Lastly what if she contacts me before hand, obviously throw this in there somewhere I'd say. Also the part where you say "tell her she'll get something delivered which will tell her what it is and when! Send her flowers with the time date and where to meet you ! Low budget rose if you fancy !" Is this something I can bring with me and just give it to her when I see her. Like greet with a hug/kiss then give her the flower lol. Then proceed to museum or whatever it is I'm doing?


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Yes do it next week !

There isnt a guarantee it will work though but it will possibly get the emotion back that shes lost always worth a try :)

GOOD LUCK

Right on man! Lastly what if she contacts me before hand, obviously throw this in there somewhere I'd say. Also the part where you say "tell her she'll get something delivered which will tell her what it is and when! Send her flowers with the time date and where to meet you ! Low budget rose if you fancy !" Is this something I can bring with me and just give it to her when I see her. Like greet with a hug/kiss then give her the flower lol. Then proceed to museum or whatever it is I'm doing?
No Send them to her ! for some reason chicks love being sent flowers ! you could sit them on her front step and then tell her to go check etc ! handing them in person is an inconvenience because then shes carrying them around etc ! lol

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Yes do it next week !

There isnt a guarantee it will work though but it will possibly get the emotion back that shes lost always worth a try :)

GOOD LUCK

Right on man! Lastly what if she contacts me before hand, obviously throw this in there somewhere I'd say. Also the part where you say "tell her she'll get something delivered which will tell her what it is and when! Send her flowers with the time date and where to meet you ! Low budget rose if you fancy !" Is this something I can bring with me and just give it to her when I see her. Like greet with a hug/kiss then give her the flower lol. Then proceed to museum or whatever it is I'm doing?
No Send them to her ! for some reason chicks love being sent flowers ! you could sit them on her front step and then tell her to go check etc ! handing them in person is an inconvenience because then shes carrying them around etc ! lol
Right on dude... However, I don't even know her address. Also if I ask her for it that might be weird. I'm not exactly sure where she moved too. How do I got about that?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:46 pm 
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Update

I think the best way to handle this would not even be over text. It may be best to just give her a call and keep it all fresh. It's more direct and will allude the previous uninvite due to the human experience you get, even if I get the voicemail. Also I feel that it's easy to jump into playing games with text. This is why I'm always caught up in it. If I just call it will put things into perspective faster. When she reached out to me she would usually call, even when she wanted to catch up. I enjoyed that because it was spontaneous. I think I'll give her a call instead and just be present with her.

Now, when would you call?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:13 am 
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If you want to call I would call say thursday night.

Personally i prefer to use text as it means you can be a bit more mysterious in that you can reply at your own will and because your building some sort of emotion you dnt want to reply straight away !

Its not creepy atall to ask for her address if you word it properly. Well ill tell you where we're going but first i need your address as im sending you a present ;)! shes not going to not give you it chicks love gifts even when they say no no no lol

good luck dude

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:30 am 
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Fast Update!

Received a text today from her. Haven't heard from her since I uninvited her from last Friday's event. Here's how it went...

Her: Hi (Name!).
Today at 11:34 AM

Me: Hey! How are you?
Today at 4:45 PM

Her: Ok! Thinking of stocking up on vitamins...winter makes you tired...
Today at 5:06 PM

Me: Yeah it's also that kinda of weather. Hot chocolate and devour the sweets.
Today at 5:21 PM\

Her: Yeah...but what if you have a big butt to begin with...
Today at 5:31 PM

Her: I'll work on it!
Today at 5:31 PM

Her: You know...I'm thinking of taking a spin class until I get a bike
Today at 5:32 PM

Her: It's such a gorgeous night...coffee shop chilling out and reading a book
Today at 5:34 PM

Me: Hibernation season ya know... your butt will thank you later lol. It is a nice night out, not to brisk, good night to walk.
Today at 5:42 PM

Her: It sure is...
Today at 5:54 PM

Her: We should go for a smoothie soon...
Today at 6:00 PM

Me: That sounds good, what's your schedule look like mid. next week?
Today at 7:11 PM

Her: Want to do something wed or Thursday
Today at 7:16 PM

Me: Next Wednesday would be perfect...
Today at 8:00 PM

Her: Ok
Today at 9:43 PM


So this all got setup as I was in my commute after leaving work. I should probably make things happen at this point a we're meeting Wednesday. I don't think she's gonna want a smoothie and I'll reassure her that when we meet next week. To damn cold for that here this season lol. I think it's a good time to tell her say Tuesday to meet me at X place by X time. I would like to check out a gallery I think she will enjoy before they close it down... then get food somewhere and drinks near a hotel or something. This sounds so weird typing because I never had to think so much about this. I think that's because of my logistics situation. But after so many failed attempts not realizing I had multiple opportunities to close. The time is now and I'd like to make that happen.

I also don't want to seem to forward in the process. I just want it to be nonchalant, smooth and organic as possible. Any help or tips on this please chime in. Also do you think I'm in a good position. She reached out to me and initiated as were I was going to next week. All thoughts appreciated.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:21 am 
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You done well holding off. She's reached out to you ! Good idea changing the venue and doing what you want to do :) ! personally i wouldnt go for the Hotel straight away. Shes flakey as it is i would game her kiss close her get her out the saturday after you meet and escalate more and more :).

Currently doing this with an HB9 :)- 'Due to it coming up to christmas time we should go shopping during the day and get drinks etc :)' She agreed i then said ' well a hotel would be awesome in town so we could just dump our shopping bags etc !' she agreed now halfing the hotel cost and its all booked :) EASY ! Shes been a really hard lay aswell.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:33 pm 
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You done well holding off. She's reached out to you ! Good idea changing the venue and doing what you want to do :) ! personally i wouldnt go for the Hotel straight away. Shes flakey as it is i would game her kiss close her get her out the saturday after you meet and escalate more and more :).

Currently doing this with an HB9 :)- 'Due to it coming up to christmas time we should go shopping during the day and get drinks etc :)' She agreed i then said ' well a hotel would be awesome in town so we could just dump our shopping bags etc !' she agreed now halfing the hotel cost and its all booked :) EASY ! Shes been a really hard lay aswell.
Right on, thanks man! I'm trying not to over think it but I believe I have the control frame again as she's reaching back to me and making arrangements. She could also just be wanting to keep contact. However, when we meet I need to just man up and be boss about it. Escalate and create the opportunity for sex to happen perhaps that night. I don't want to rush into it because I don't want her to have the impression that I'm trying to score right away. But I will try to make that happen that night being chill as possible. Trying to figure out the best way to mention getting a hotel. My friend said just go to one and not tell her. She'll be down haha. I think saying something like "Hey, want to see the dolphins from my window and the Matisse painting I got on my wall"? Any help in this arena would be appreciated. In terms of booking I have a hotel app I can book with on the go based on location lol. I hope that will serve me well.


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