I've never been successful negging beautiful woman, it usually turns them cold instantly. I've found that showing neutral attraction at first then intensifying it after qualifying works far better. Any thoughts?

The last neg I used was on a model. I used Mystery's "hand model" neg and she instantly walked away haha.

I recently learned that most of these classic PUA mystery methods, like negs, are ineffective and should be avoided in almost all situations.

When a girl tells you she is a model she is trying to DHV herself to you. It is an IOI more often than not. If you can show some knowledge of that scene to her and show you are very familiar and comfortable with that scene it's helpful.

As much as I hate to defend Mystery and negs in general... how did you actually say this?

Like a serious question, or exaggerating, where she knows you're teasing? And was this after a few seconds or after a few minutes. Too soon is obviously going to piss her off.

The thing about "negs" is that I use them all the time in the sense of "teasing". "Negs" are Mystery's alien version of teasing, because he never quite grasped how human beings interact in any normal way.

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Of course in a teasing way. It was pretty early on.

There's no reason to "neg" a girl unless she "negs" you first.

It works, I've seen it work, but I don't find it to be necessary. I think its for men who see beautiful women as being over them and don't have a strong enough state or presence to communicate otherwise. Teasing is one thing, but teasing to me is playful; what I've seen a lot of guys do as "negging" is just a turn off to me. I can walk up to a beautiful girl and shower her with layer after layer to talk on how amazing I find the way she looks is and still take her home. So I rather bring a woman UP and not bring her down to sleep with her; it makes for better sex IMO.

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I really hate the answers I just read.

Negs really do work. Womens tend to think they deserve a little bit more than what they really do. It can be understood easily just watching their casual encouters with mens.

I found that I do neg in a very natural way. It is very situational and works best with hopeful romantic girl. They like you but then you surely cant fit to their high dreams of a perfect man. Neg brings them back to reality where they are not perfect so they become more of your equal and thats what they thrive for.

The rules i naturally follow is a subtext of myself that says no matter what you do I still like you and understand you. In other words, if she does something out of context, ugly or stupid; it does not make her stupid in general.

In short, neg in a very warm and playful matter then keep on living the present moment. I have been very charmed by the results of her opening up too me in a relatively obvious way.

I am not a big fan of negs. Specially not in the opening phase. Use them on a girl above your league and she will SO shoot you down. Use them on a girl below your league and she will cry. If you use them when you already have some level of comfort with the girl and it clearly is a joke, then it's OK I guess.

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here is mystery using negs on a girl who is not so receptive to begin with

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsPc9vbDR7U[/youtube]

This is one of my biggest pet peeves on pickup.

Yes, negs can work. However everybody seems to miss a couple of key points:

1. negs are only worth using on super stuck up hotties who constantly have men hanging around them.

2. negs are NEGATIVE COMPLIMENTS. Not insults, not sarcasm, etc.

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They work, they just need to be done in a playful, half-serious tone. Some of my best pick ups were filled with negs, however it was just being very playful.