Hey PUA's.

I wrote in here a couple of days ago about an ex-gf. Your advice was clear. Get out and meet more women!

So I did.

Yesterday, I went clubbing with a few of my friends. Before we did this, we were at a party where two women came later. I knew one of these girls, from former parties, but I hadn't really talked to her for at least 2 years. Last time we talked was at a party, where I got her isolated with massive IOI's but she had a boyfriend and out of respect I didn't attempt any thing, when I learned about this fact.

Yesterday, I learned that she was now single (Three weeks). And we hooked up. She bought ME
drinks without me even asking. We kissed, I bought us shots, and we kissed more, and repeat.

We went dancing and continued kissing like mad. If a man approached her, she would deny him on the spot, in favour of me.

Problem is, she disappeared with her girlfriend shortly afterwards, because she wanted to go home. No F-Close unfortunately. But I didnt give up, and wrote her a facebook message; "You shouldve given a goodbye kiss before you left "

Her reply was; "I will give you one next time "
I replied; "Deal " . And that was the end of it.

Next day I write a funny message to her on facebook joking about the shot she bought me.
We continued chatting a little resulting in me setting up an actual date with her.

This is what I need a second opinion on; How the first date should proceed

My plan is to meet up with her at a starbucks, I will buy us both a coffee to go, and then take a walk with her, where she can tell me all about herself.

I will tell her that I have to be somewhere later (around two hours after the date has begun), so to let her know; Here is the time window. Personally I dont like first dates to be too long, and I think a two hour walk with coffee to go, is enough as a first date. This is without actually telling her the reason. Just telling her that "By the way, I have to be somewhere around xx:xx o'clock".

When I greet her, I won't kiss her on the mouth, but just on the cheek, lead her into starbucks, so she can order. Afterwards ill grab her hand, and go hand in hand with her. When I have to go, I will say goodbye with a Kiss-close.


How does this plan sound for a first date?

Sounds killer for the "1st date". are you looking for a relationship with this woman?

Sounds like a perfect plan. Don't forget kino while on the date. (Could attempt to pull her to your place if there's a good vibe or you could wait until the next date to have her over). Congrats for getting out there and meeting more women I love it when guys implement the encouragement they receive and start turning things back to their favor.

In my opinion, it's an okay plan...
The rule of thumb should be if you kissed her on the lips when you last saw her, you kiss her on the lips when you meet up with her again. It's also a good way to keep her in the same mindset about you from when she last saw you. This tells me that you would have f-closed her if you had the chance, you can correct me if I'm wrong...but I'm going to keep explaining as if I'm right. Giving her a time restriction takes that option away if it presents itself. If you're escalating properly, it's highly likely that the opportunity will present itself because it sounds like she is already very into you and you could blow that opportunity for that night.

That being said, you have to do what you need to be comfortable and confident on your date. So if you like your plan, it's good enough to where you shouldn't have any problems down the line with her.

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Agreed.

Im glad you told me this!
I have been discussing this issue with my friends, and they can't seem to agree on this subject.

One side says that going for a mouth kiss as a greet would be way too offensive considering we were both drunk when we first kissed in the club, and thus it could scare her if I attempt this as the first thing, while being sober.

The other side says; Go for it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with going for a mouth kiss as a greet.

Actually yes, in reviewing this again I believe you had the right approach initially with your plan to kiss her on the cheek first due to the unique circumstances here of the two of you being wasted when you kissed previously. This is why I originally stated you had a perfect plan and still agree that it was the perfect plan. Kiss on the cheek on the greeting for sure. 100%. You could fuck up the whole date with a mouth kiss opener again due to the unique circumstance here.

Edit: You didn't initially state you two were wasted. Now knowing you were wasted I concur with your original plan.

The worst thing that could happen is that she'll turn her head. A turned head is easily recoverable if you don't act shocked if it happens. As a matter of fact, it happened to me on Friday with a girl that I kissed on Wednesday (Thursday morning) after a night of drinking. She shown up at my door, I pulled her in and at the last second she turned her head. She still came into my home and we watched a movie while I escalated. She left Saturday afternoon after doing a lot more than kissing.

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How did you recover when she turned her head?

Sorry for the late response Clutch778. Yes, I am definitely looking for a relationship with her.

Thanks for your feedback, oceanx!
My bad for not mentioning the fact that we were both drunk!

In addition to what i've mentioned in my plan and to the feedback that i've received, I am thinking that the safest and most effective play would be to kiss her on the cheek as a greet - in case she seems nervous, I would give her a short compliment to soften her up a little.

In accordance with JackZeros feedback about keeping her in the mindset, I thought that it might be a good idea to go for a kiss mid-date. This might, in fact, open her up a little and return her to the mindset from our last kisses.

I treated it like LMR. The thing to realize is that a woman that agrees to meet up with you after making out with you is into you. She has approved of you and any resistance is either because she doesn't know if she can trust you or she is worried about her image. So kino and charm is all I needed to get us back to where we were before.

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UPDATE:

Yesterday(monday) I told her that the date was going to happen today. She was busy at work till 21:00, but she suggested we meet up this weekend - which I agreed to. We agreed on sunday around 15:00.

This means that I have to maintain some sort of text game for 4 days, as I won't be seeing her till sunday.

So far my strategy has been to maintain my frame as the FUN guy, who makes her laugh by giving her small challenge this sunday, and framing me and her with silly names in a silly story.

I am trying to respond as slow as possibly without seeming too aloof, and to save myself from sending too many texts.

But I fear that I quickly losing topics and ideas for how to keep the conversation alive. So far, she has sent me good IOI's as in; "I'm going to charm you till you melt! ". My response to this was; "I better hope you'll give me a kiss to return me to my former form! " and she said; "Haha, you'd like that!". She wants me to give her a massage as that would "make her happy", she says. Additionally she wants me to drop by her work, when there aren't many people, with some candy and hang out while she is at work.

Ultimately, its going OK, in my opinion. Not too bad, but not perfect either. Plenty of interest from her side.

Just two hours ago, she wrote me goodnight, in which I responded, and she kept answering back and forth for 20 mins, until i finally said; "Time for you to go to bed, silly! Sleep tight! You're responsible for writing me a good morning message tomorrow seeing as you kept me awake! haha". Her response was; "I am going to bed now (sleeping emoticon) Good night!"

So I got two questions where one of these might sound a little silly - but pardon me, text gaming is my weakest point.

1. In case she doesn't write "good morning", how should I proceed? My plan was not to write her a message at all tomorrow if she doesn't do this, but will it have a negative impact? And what other options do I have in case she doesn't write me? (Yeah, I know - silly!)

2. How should I steer this text conversation on facebook? Got any quick tips? I'm more of a face to face person, as that is how I do my best gaming. But seeing as how I have suffice with text gaming for 4 days, I would greatly appreciate help on this as well!

My thinking was perhaps making her play a game of "Either" in our conversation. Could be a fun way to get to know each other and I might even build some sexual attraction this way.

Whats your point of view guys?

I never have the will for these types of dayslong convos over text. A quick drop in here or there, fine. As you said, in person is best. If a girl can't wait in anticipation for me for a couple of days, I have no problem with that. Plenty of fish in the sea. I'm not suggesting you freeze her out on text because you've already sort of set the frame of texting her a lot. Don't call her out if she doesn't say good morning, proceed as though it's no big deal which it isn't. Sorry I couldn't be of more help to you on this bro.

Dude... the fact that you are planning this out to this extent is a little bit creepy.

You need so much help that I really don't even know where to start typing.

I guess I'll start with this... You were instructed to meet more girlS. Plural. Not one more girl.

You're clinging onto this girl and planning this out like she is the last girl left on the planet.

Next piece of advice is to fucking relax. You don't need to "game" her for the next 4 days. Just let it be.

Let some suspense build up.

Call her on Sunday and get her to meet up with you. That's it. Have her meet you at or near your house so you can actually get intimate with the girl.

Go meet more girls in the meantime.