doesn't joking make you lose value?



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:36 pm 
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everybody says "you have to make her laugh"
I have found this actually works against me. every time I try to joke with a girl, she either doesn't get it, or she gets it, she laughs and I get friendzoned. I think joking displays low value. Like "this guy is just a comedian. he is good for jokes, but not for sex"
same deal with smiling. everybody says you have to smile and appear friendly. every time I smile, I lose value.

I am thinking from now on, I will be more of the serious, confident type. kind of like the Godfather.

what do you think?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:54 pm 
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Laughing at your jokes is a sign of attraction, especially when it isn't particularly a funny joke. But it is a double edge sword because if you do it too much you will move from being a seducer to being her entertainment.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:46 pm 
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Eh, just find a natural balance. Don't take yourself TOO seriously and crack a joke if you feel like it. As long as you aren't that guy being a clown and throwing jokes around all the time in order to get laid you'll be fine.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:34 pm 
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Bart, I very strongly ask you to go here. You're immersed way too deep in the worst parts of the community.

Value does not get you laid. Value plays a very small role. And it's rather specific. How does your value affect her status? Does dating you get her into more or better parties, advance her career, make her friends jealous, etc?

Having high status in the art community can help you with an woman who is an artist. But it will do almost nothing for a woman who is a financial advisor. At least nothing beyond being cool and likable(which again, doesn't do all that much).

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:37 am 
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Values are the one of the most important parts of attraction. sadly, it's completely misunderstood by 90% of the community.

Knowing your values (what you value highest in life) is so important in the dating game simply because if you don't have a clear picture of what you find most valuable in your life, you won't know where to aim and you'll end up dating some girl based entirely on face value.

You'll get a hot girl who you can't relate to. helps when you want arm candy, but for the other 90% of the time you spend together it's better to have a 7 who you connect on a fundamental level with than a vapid 10.

So first know what you value, and communicate that with everything you do. It's all part of having a strong inner game.

Second, elicit her values!!

This is so important for one because it's a screening process for you so that you know you're not wasting your time on a girl that will never understand. also once you know what in life gets her juices flowing, you have something deep to connect on.

All you have to do is ask her about what she loves. (few questions will tell you more about a person)

Cracking an appropriate joke and smiling now and then won't keep you from getting laid, but having your self worth dependent on what someone else thinks of you will. Don't worry so much about what other people might be thinking, just focus on being the best you that YOU know how to be and fuck the rest.

If you're happy, fucking laugh. If you're sad, ball like a baby. Just make sure it's coming from you and not from an idea of what you think people will like.

fundamentally I believe people in general are attracted to authenticity. Nothing will put a bad taste in your mouth like someone who changes with the location.

Be strong in who you are brotha! And if you continue to seek your highest values, I have no doubt that you'll become one bad ass ladies man. Because what's more attractive than a man who knows what he wants, and goes after it?

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