Hey there guys,

I've been single for a couple of months now and had quite a bit of success, in part because of what I learned through PUA products. After about 10 to 15 Day 2s (about 30 approaches - I'm more a quality over quantity guy) and a couple of f-closes I think I now figured out my sticking points. I'm gonna try to list them cleanly, just pick out which ever one you think you can help me with.

- Keeping up the energy. I'm not a naturally extroverted guy. I'm pretty great with banter and keeping the conversation going for about the first 2,3 hours but I noticed I always run out of energy after that. After playing strong game for a couple of hours, my brain just shuts down, and I need a break. Often the girls seem keen to go on, but I'm just out of juice. Any tips? Should I just cut the date short. I don't want her to take over the lead either.

- Compliance vs mirroring. I'm not perfect with kino, but I do escalate constantly. But what I noticed: I never have a girl reject my kino outright, but rarely do they ever kino back. It still works and after the k-close it usually changes. But I feel like I'm in the dark, until then. Compliance tests rarely work but as I said, if i kiss her regardless I barely ever get rejected (just once, yesterday actually).

- My height. I'm 5'7. It's usually no biggie in clubs or bars or whatever because I can persuade them with my personality. Of course I'd love to be 6ft but its really not that big an issue mostly. But I have been using tinder alot and sucessfully too. Haven't had any trouble but now I was asked about my height twice. Once after we set up a date and I'm pretty sure she's gonna flake because she got kind of disinteressted after I told her my height. Any way to project enough HV to get her to change her mind before meeting her?
And once again yesterday, during a date I set up through tinder. I had unsuccessfully tried to k-close and about 15 minutes later she asked how tall I was. I smiled, told her, changed the subject. But I'm pretty sure she might have been disappointed about my height. I don't want to put my height in my tinder profile, cause hot women won't swipe left but setting up a date with a girl who is really tall or cares about that very much is kind of pointless as well. I tried to put in pictures that show that I'm not especially tall but one girl still told me that I looked taller in my profile. Any ideas how I can be honest about that, but still get the date?
As I said, I'm not that insecure about my height, it's just a practical question, linked to tinder and online dating in general.

This is exactly the reason why I made the Seductive Introvert program. You're playing the game like an extrovert. Stop.

You've been brainwashed by extrovert-centric pickup programs to think that you have to socialize a shit ton in order to pick up girls. It's bullshit.

When you're gaming for 2-3 hours, you're probably doing shit like "holding court" in "sets" and talking to a bunch of people, right? If you were at some relatively quiet lounge bar with just ONE person, you could talk with them (while they do most of the talking) for the entire night, can't you? That's more of my introverted style of pickup.

Extroverted PUAs can do what they do by going out to clubs every night of the week because they're wired to get more energy the more they socialize. They feel drained if they're by themselves. We introverted are the opposite and recharge by spending time alone. But you know what? What are we doing when we're by ourselves? Are we interacting with NOTHING?

No! We're online interacting with people just like this here on this forum, we're interacting with whatever activity we're doing even if it's just reading a book, and we're also talking to ourselves. We're being all introspective and shit and thinking about a bunch of shit.

We can have those kinds of conversations WITH OTHER PEOPLE that access that energizing part of us when we're alone. And it's a hell of a lot easier when you're doing that shit one-on-one.

So focus the beginning stages of your nights out on ISOLATION. Isolate, isolate, isolate. After that you should have a more introverted style of conversation where you're soaking in more shit than dishing out. It's really easy to fish people into talking more than you while seducing them at the same time.

Oh, and check out http://seductiveintrovert.com
Hands. Hold her hands. Caress her hands. "Activate" her hands by bringing more attention to them by kinoing her hands more.

What do you mean compliance tests rarely work? Are you using a ladder to escalate compliance tests or are you just throwing random compliance tests out there to see what sticks? It's REALLY easy to get compliance if you're escalating your compliance tests just as you would escalate kino or sexualization or anything. Everything in pickup is an escalation.

Scroll down to the "compliance ladder" section here: http://chiefpua.com/outer-game
Let me preface this advice by saying that I'm not an online/text game guy. My "power" is all in the face-to-face, and all I use online/text for is pretty much just arranging meetings face-to-face.

However, I'm always a strong believer in being honest with women. Nothing bad can come of honesty and, if you think otherwise, I guarantee you that the dishonesty will have much greater long term consequences.

I've never actually used tinder myself, but you can chat with them before they find out about your height, right? When you're chatting with them, you can screen and shape at the same time. I'm sure you already know what screening is. You should screen for if they're shallow or not. As for shaping, the screening will do that for you if you do it right. Shaping, if you don't already know, is a process of projecting/communicating your expectations for how others should behave around you and that, in turn, will cause them to behave that way around you.

So let's say you're chatting with a girl on tinder or whatever and you're asking her some questions to get to know her better. Somewhere in that conversation you should ask her something that will (1) let you know if she can be a not-shallow person with you and (2) sub-communicate that she SHOULD be a not-shallow person with you. So an example of something you could say would be "What do you think about shallow people?"

It's a loaded question, and that's the point. Shallow is a bad word. She's gonna express a negative opinion about it.

You could pile on the shaping even more at that point by criticizing men who are rude to fat girls or something like that. That can easily lead you two to talk about the same issue on the other side of the coin: men's heights.

All of that primes her to be more open-minded about shorties like you and me. I'm also 5'7, by the way. Maybe 5'6. I don't even know. I don't care.

By the way, my Seductive Introvert program is primarily geared toward newbies but it's still gonna be a huge lifesaver for you if you dig deep and apply all the shit in there. You really need to change up your style or else you're just gonna burn up and give up because playing the extrovert game is fucking EXHAUSTING. Trust me, I've been there. Progress was slow as FUCK.

Definitly going to look into that Introvert programm.

What happened yesterday was, that I was talking about 70% of the time for the first couple of hours and at the end maybe 10%, which she noticed and remarked upon. I think she felt like a lost interest in her.
Do you have a move for handholding, or do you just grab the hand if it feels right? Putting my arm around her is fine, but I always feel like handholding should come after the kiss, I don't know, never quite feels right.
Yeah I'm pretty random with compliance tests. Good catch, man. 100% agree. Great advice, man. That's really great advice, thanks.

Start with 50/50 and try to stay consistent around that ratio, of course letting it vary depending on the flow of the conversation. Or better yet, giving her more "equity" in the conversation as soon as possible is even better. You just gotta make sure what you say/ask counts. Quality over quantity.
Hand-holding/caressing should absolutely come ASAP. Definitely before the kiss if you can. Play around with it til you find something that feels right because it will give you a huge boost in your whole game overall.