I stepped away. From pickup for 4 years and now I've picked it back up.

I really like the secretary in my office (she knows) and I've known her/ spoke to her for the last 6 weeks. I've asked her out three times (Halloween and two times before that) and was kindly turned down (her excuses were plans and no plans).

I'm checking to see if I'm in friend zone or not. I've been to her house in her bedroom; smoked weed alone with her.

She drops sexx jokes around me about how she's lonely and were both Leos. Our chemistry is great but I'm not sure where this is going she gave me up number at house her.

Our text ratio is 25 to 11.

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If you got into her room, you were not friend zoned at that point...

You should have made a move then. You were in her room for a reason.

If you get the opportunity again, don't waste it (cause you won't get another after that, if you even get one more to begin with).

That text ratio is fine... (well it's not fine, but it's not awful). Call her up, get her out and escalate.

If you don't escalate the next time you're with her (not at work, in private), you're done.

It just sounds like she has you as a orbiter for sexual attention until the guy that she wants comes around. That can change, but its kind of swimming upstream because you didn't lay down the proper foundation in the beginning.

She'll start coming around as soon as she can feel you no longer having the level of interest in her that you have now.

The thing is.. She knows she can have you if she wants to; and thats the least attractive thing about you to her right now. You're not a challenge. All she has to do is say " Hey, wanna go out ? "- and you'll be all over it as if she's the prize which is impossible. There are more attractive women than alpha males. We are always the prize innately; whether we realize it or not.

So any woman who doesn't feel challenged by you will always have a man in the friend zone/orbiter position. What fun would you be?

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