not sure where you are from but in major US cities this is a NO NO NO. Tons of high quality chicks online.

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You might be totally right and onto something. I also think this chick might be a catfish. I see that she just viewed my profile again last night and upon further review of her pics... they don't even seem like they're all of the same chick. Her cheek bones and nose seem slightly off to me when comparing a few pictures.

Thank God for Tinder, though. Just downloaded that last night and i'm fucking killing it.

Good point, especially with Tinder.

You've already gotten lays from Tinder in the last 12 hours?

I'm a noobie. Killing it for me is getting three dates planned in 12 hours. This is way easier than traditional dating sites.

Props to you sir

I said chicks with without good options. If a girl is a 10 online she's a 7 in her city. You're unlikely to see a girl who has good options online. Otherwise they won't be online. If she had the option to meet great guys in person she won't bother with online. If you were meeting 9s or 10s who were into you in real life would you go online?
I'm just saying it's overgaming by prolonging the eventual date. Impress in person rather than over text. You can text a girl for weeks before meeting her and get her excited, but if you don't live up to the hype in person no second date. I don't think it's a country or state thing... In person always matters more than text/phone. It can help if you build it up and you're awesome, but meanwhile she's going on other dates in real life and other things can happen. Not to mention catfishes or girls with old pictures. Meet them in person and decide if you want to see them. ANYONE can be awesome over text so try to weed out the cool girls from the lame ones ASAP.

Women and Men are not the same. Many high quality women are online because they don't want to go out to bars and get creeped on by 20 guys a day in order to meet someone, for example. And catfishes only happen regularly on shitty sites like POF... on a pay site like Match.com the odds are close to 0.

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TheFury... I'm saying they don't have good options. This does not mean not high quality. As you said they don't want to go to the bar to get creeped out. So their options aren't good. They're online because the guys they meet are creeps right. So it doesn't matter the hotness of the girl. The guys they meet in person aren't great. That's what I'm saying. If they had high quality options they won't be online. You have less to impress and "work" to meet up. Just be normal and go for it. Why overcame a girl who's next option is the loser guy online who sent hey?

i agree with some points here and i disagree with some.

Fury is right you can get solid 10's on dating sites easily with no baggage who are extremely picky but down to earth. They main problem they have is trust bla bla bla.

There is differences by over gaming girls/Overtiming them (texting for weeks and weeks and never meeting) and having solid online/text game. Some guys are saying go straight for the date and impress in person which is totally fine. Some girls which ive found the much better ones want to get to know you and have texting and a bit of fun until the realise how cool you are. It just depends how they are with you and how you react if you want to rush the date you can but they may flake.

Me personally ill game them online for say a week/two then take them out that weekend. Works almost everytime

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She's not that into you so just fucking get over it dude. All this HB shit is for schoolboys. It's embarrassing. Not many of you on here seem like nice dudes. You'd kill your own granny to get a fuck. Wise up and be a man. Not a whiny fucking loser analysing every fucking thing a girl says.

Lol people come on asking for advice and get given advice... people like you need to realize there are guys out there with zero confidence and confide in people for help. Its not that any of us are bad guys well im speaking about the PUA's i know. So before you go about saying things that are a bit rude i think you should remember the point of a forum. TO ASK QUESTIONS AND GET ANSWERS AND HELP.

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My online gaming sucks and I'm way too busy/lazy to follow up! But I can't dog it too much. A close friend of mine who lives in NYC almost dates girls exclusively from online and all of the ones I've met are 7+. No 10's though...may be one who was a nude webcam girl but he met her through instagram/mutual friend. But he has a seemingly high F-close rate to boot. He's socially awkward most of the time when it comes to approach in real life & I've only ever seen him approach 2 girls @ a club w/ one # close. But he's probably the best online dater I know personally.

The cons is that to really be good with women, relationships, and transition that into other areas of your life (he wants to be a diplomat), YOU HAVE TAKE IT TO THE STREET. Another con is that he is permanently attached to his phone & spends an unnatural amt of time staring at screens all day...not for me.

I would agree with this.
Me either.