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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:33 pm 
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don't fall into the trap where you get what you want but you're trying to game the girl so hard that you lose her.
Agreeing to meet up is trying hard. Suggesting another date is not caring.
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if the girl hits you up trying to hang out at night, you fucking hang out with her unless you actually can't do it. the objective of the game is to fuck the girl and throwing that away makes absolutely no sense. now if she just wants to get dinner or go do something other than bang then you say no to that. she is only allowed to come over and have sex and leave. if she starts steering it elsewhere you bail to her face and you tell her that's not your arrangement. .
No way! You don't always say yes to meet up for coffee with your friends. Why should you always agree for sex with your FB?
As far as I know, FB calls, offers and you either accept or decline. That's how FBs are.
After showing that much interest he needs to turn her down this time and tell her to meet up another day in the week... preferably a week day. During the weekend he should be free to go out and pick-up new girls.
What is wrong with that?
It gives a clear message that he is not gaming her.
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and fuck her really well man, that will keep her around more than any other game bullshit. the best guy in bed wins unless he has major, insurmountable disadvantages elsewhere.
He doesn't need to put forward any effort to keep her around. She wants to be around that's why she is around. The only way she can leave is if she develops feelings for someone else.


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Fear is not attractive..
precisely why OP cannot in good faith PRETEND he is busy with other girls JUST TO GET THE GIRL

HOWEVER, there is a caveat:

OP if you already told this chick you are busy this week... then you should probably not be suddenly available to bang her.
When one person acts cold the other acts emotional and vice versa.
And btw, he should go out and pick up some other girls and stop focusing on this one until she is ready to be exclusive. He needs time away from her to put his feelings in check and clear up his mind.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:32 pm 
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I just answered.

Me: I was at the movies with a friend (girl). Now I'm about to meet up some friends for drinks. You doing anything interesting?

Her: I am "name" bar.


Seems pissed haha

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:37 pm 
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All of these aare through what's app. Just saw she also texted me through iMessage asking what I was doing. Probably drunk.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:53 pm 
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Btw was really at movies with other chick

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Alright so I banged her last night. Got some good new info and material.

Was about to go home from the bar where I was when she texted me asking to come home with me. I picked her up then banged her a couple of times.

After that we talked a little bit. She told me that her ex asked her if she had had sex with someone and she said yes with me. I'm going to the same party as this dude tonight so it should prove to be interesting to say the least...

After that she also told me that before me she had hooked up with a dude that was nice but she didn't like it because "all I want is for the guy to tell me to go and fuck off" and not be Mr Nice Guy. Confirms all our theories.

However, very important: She told me that she had made out with a dude on Saturday night at a party (ouch this is definitely a bad sign and sucks). This definitely pissed me off, but I remained very very calm and said whatever you can do what you want, just tell me if you fuck someone (because I'm not trying to get a disease), other than that i'm not interested. Inside I was boiling.

She asked me if I had hooked up with anyone, I said "no"... "but"...
"But I went out for some drinks with a chick this week, nothing happened though."

Then... She became extremely pissed. She said she was not okay with that, I called her on her shit and said "well you can make out with dudes and I can't go have drinks wtf is that?".

Her: "It's different, me it was meaningless completely drunk at 7 am. You it isn't, it's planned out and there is something behind it".

I wouldn't tell her who the chick was, told her she could figure it out on her own.

Then we talked about something else and five minutes later she said "I'm really not okay with this. I'm angry at you. And I shouldn't be angry, this shouldn't affect me but it is. And therefore this is our last night together."

She was probably waiting for me to tell her "okay well I won't see this chick again".

But I didn't.

I told her that I would decide when it was time for us to stop seeing each other. Not the other way around. Because I was "The Big Boss" and she was "The Little Boss". (she always likes to say that she is the boss and controls everything. I told her when we first met that she could be the little boss but that there was only one big boss).

This morning had to get up early so only slept a couple of hours, dropped her off and I was gone.

She texted me right now apologising for saying some weird shit because she was drunk. And she's been texting me garbage all day pictures of her with her dog, etc etc. I've played it completely aloof. Haven't really answered or just answered with one-liners like "ok nice". etc. Real cold.

PS: One of the things I noticed was that she was often trying to say like "I don't care". "I don't give a fuck". "Do what you want". But in a way where you can truly tell that she is bullshitting and that she does care. This girl acts like she is a tough kid but I'm seeing through her game right now. She is fucked up inside for sure.

So that's it for now.

Tell me what you think.

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She just texted me asking who was the chick. What should I answer? Need to play it off.

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Tell her that she is a good friend JUST LIKE HER and that she is a really nice person.
If she insists about who is that girl repeat that she is a good friend just like her and that you two talked about it last time. You are not together. You have made a FB/FWB arrangement.
you can sexually flirt with her a little bit... just to be "nice". Make sure that you leave an air that she knows she is not the only one providing sex... there are other "friends" too..


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ok in spite of maria trying to sabotage you (haha jk), you're making progress. here are some more pointers:
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She asked me if I had hooked up with anyone, I said "no"... "but"...
"But I went out for some drinks with a chick this week, nothing happened though."
broooo always imply that you have been banging other chicks, even if you haven't. just say it's none of her business and then kinda smile to yourself very subtly. btw, you guys shouldn't be discussing this shit anyways. you played it well with saying you don't care as long as you don't bang somebody else. but why is this convo happening? don't worry about other guys because YOU are going to get this girl eventually.
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Then we talked about something else and five minutes later she said "I'm really not okay with this. I'm angry at you. And I shouldn't be angry, this shouldn't affect me but it is. And therefore this is our last night together."
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ahh, so glorious. this is what i want to see. remember, when they don't react whatsoever, that's when you're fucked. when they get angry, it means they care.
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She just texted me asking who was the chick. What should I answer? Need to play it off.
oh hell yeah bro this chick's interest level is rising pretty damn high. do EXACTLY what maria just said.

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don't fall into the trap where you get what you want but you're trying to game the girl so hard that you lose her.
Agreeing to meet up is trying hard. Suggesting another date is not caring.
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if the girl hits you up trying to hang out at night, you fucking hang out with her unless you actually can't do it. the objective of the game is to fuck the girl and throwing that away makes absolutely no sense. now if she just wants to get dinner or go do something other than bang then you say no to that. she is only allowed to come over and have sex and leave. if she starts steering it elsewhere you bail to her face and you tell her that's not your arrangement. .
No way! You don't always say yes to meet up for coffee with your friends. Why should you always agree for sex with your FB?
As far as I know, FB calls, offers and you either accept or decline. That's how FBs are.
After showing that much interest he needs to turn her down this time and tell her to meet up another day in the week... preferably a week day. During the weekend he should be free to go out and pick-up new girls.
What is wrong with that?
It gives a clear message that he is not gaming her.
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and fuck her really well man, that will keep her around more than any other game bullshit. the best guy in bed wins unless he has major, insurmountable disadvantages elsewhere.
He doesn't need to put forward any effort to keep her around. She wants to be around that's why she is around. The only way she can leave is if she develops feelings for someone else.
nah i'm not feelin any of this "turn down sex" theory at this stage. they haven't been fucking enough for him to turn her down. that could have been his last chance, thank god he banged her. at the beginning i always advocate as much sex as possible if you are good in bed. there's a reason why this woman turned down all the other guys and continually bangs him, AND gets upset that he is talking to other girls...

banging her once a week isn't too much, he could be banging chicks every night for all she knows, hell he could be banging multiple chicks the same day i've done that plenty. and she seems to be chasing pretty hard now.

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Okay so I told her that it wasn't her business and it was just a friend. Then immediately changed the conversation by asking how was her day.
I think she is pretty pissed, she didn't answer until this morning and was really cold.

Had a party last night where her ex was. Some friends told me he was pissed, I told them I didn't give a damn about his feelings. I said hello. Couple minutes after when I was ordering drinks he came and said "hey bro about this whole story are we cool?" I said yeah why shouldn't I be cool. He asked me if I was tense. "No I don't see why I should be."
Then I said "you want a shot?".

Couple of minutes later he puked in the bar.

So this is where its at right now. I'm going to continue to play it aloof with her. At least that's all she'll get from me if she continues to hook up with retards on a saturday night.

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Okay so I told her that it wasn't her business and it was just a friend. Then immediately changed the conversation by asking how was her day.
I think she is pretty pissed, she didn't answer until this morning and was really cold.

Had a party last night where her ex was. Some friends told me he was pissed, I told them I didn't give a damn about his feelings. I said hello. Couple minutes after when I was ordering drinks he came and said "hey bro about this whole story are we cool?" I said yeah why shouldn't I be cool. He asked me if I was tense. "No I don't see why I should be."
Then I said "you want a shot?".

Couple of minutes later he puked in the bar.

So this is where its at right now. I'm going to continue to play it aloof with her. At least that's all she'll get from me if she continues to hook up with retards on a saturday night.
Here's the thing about relationships...You don't game a girl in a relationship to keep her, and you don't game a girl to get her into a relationship. If she doesn't like you enough for who you are to for her to settle down, or she's not emotionally ready to settle down...then you'll just have a bad relationship. If she wants to be single and sleep around, and you continue to use jealousy to get her to chase, sure she may eventually just tie you down to keep you from other women. But it's not because she likes you. And then the relationship will just be her flip flopping on what she wants, hot cold, her cheating and "shit testing." You can't change what people want, you can manipulate their emotions to get to do stuff, not what she wants. She wants multiple dicks and freedom...she'll cheat , she'll flirt with other guys, she'll break up with you and get back with you. I can guarantee if you get this girl this way, you'll be back here posting "Gf hides her phone."..."Gf broke up with me out of the blue."..."Gf kissed a guy at the bar." Jealousy and fear of loss are powerful emotions but shouldnt be what makes a girl choose you. The timing is off with this girl, but you have oneitis so you'' continue to game her. And maybe this will be the experience that will teach you that you can't make someone want to be with you.


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Okay so I told her that it wasn't her business and it was just a friend. Then immediately changed the conversation by asking how was her day.
I think she is pretty pissed, she didn't answer until this morning and was really cold.

Had a party last night where her ex was. Some friends told me he was pissed, I told them I didn't give a damn about his feelings. I said hello. Couple minutes after when I was ordering drinks he came and said "hey bro about this whole story are we cool?" I said yeah why shouldn't I be cool. He asked me if I was tense. "No I don't see why I should be."
Then I said "you want a shot?".

Couple of minutes later he puked in the bar.

So this is where its at right now. I'm going to continue to play it aloof with her. At least that's all she'll get from me if she continues to hook up with retards on a saturday night.
Here's the thing about relationships...You don't game a girl in a relationship to keep her, and you don't game a girl to get her into a relationship. If she doesn't like you enough for who you are to for her to settle down, or she's not emotionally ready to settle down...then you'll just have a bad relationship. If she wants to be single and sleep around, and you continue to use jealousy to get her to chase, sure she may eventually just tie you down to keep you from other women. But it's not because she likes you. And then the relationship will just be her flip flopping on what she wants, hot cold, her cheating and "shit testing." You can't change what people want, you can manipulate their emotions to get to do stuff, not what she wants. She wants multiple dicks and freedom...she'll cheat , she'll flirt with other guys, she'll break up with you and get back with you. I can guarantee if you get this girl this way, you'll be back here posting "Gf hides her phone."..."Gf broke up with me out of the blue."..."Gf kissed a guy at the bar." Jealousy and fear of loss are powerful emotions but shouldnt be what makes a girl choose you. The timing is off with this girl, but you have oneitis so you'' continue to game her. And maybe this will be the experience that will teach you that you can't make someone want to be with you.
Depressing but most likely true.

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Okay so I told her that it wasn't her business and it was just a friend. Then immediately changed the conversation by asking how was her day.
I think she is pretty pissed, she didn't answer until this morning and was really cold.

Had a party last night where her ex was. Some friends told me he was pissed, I told them I didn't give a damn about his feelings. I said hello. Couple minutes after when I was ordering drinks he came and said "hey bro about this whole story are we cool?" I said yeah why shouldn't I be cool. He asked me if I was tense. "No I don't see why I should be."
Then I said "you want a shot?".

Couple of minutes later he puked in the bar.

So this is where its at right now. I'm going to continue to play it aloof with her. At least that's all she'll get from me if she continues to hook up with retards on a saturday night.
Here's the thing about relationships...You don't game a girl in a relationship to keep her, and you don't game a girl to get her into a relationship. If she doesn't like you enough for who you are to for her to settle down, or she's not emotionally ready to settle down...then you'll just have a bad relationship. If she wants to be single and sleep around, and you continue to use jealousy to get her to chase, sure she may eventually just tie you down to keep you from other women. But it's not because she likes you. And then the relationship will just be her flip flopping on what she wants, hot cold, her cheating and "shit testing." You can't change what people want, you can manipulate their emotions to get to do stuff, not what she wants. She wants multiple dicks and freedom...she'll cheat , she'll flirt with other guys, she'll break up with you and get back with you. I can guarantee if you get this girl this way, you'll be back here posting "Gf hides her phone."..."Gf broke up with me out of the blue."..."Gf kissed a guy at the bar." Jealousy and fear of loss are powerful emotions but shouldnt be what makes a girl choose you. The timing is off with this girl, but you have oneitis so you'' continue to game her. And maybe this will be the experience that will teach you that you can't make someone want to be with you.
Depressing but most likely true.
I don't agree.
A woman that is commitment phobic by nature doesn't enter relationships.If she gets a FB/FWB arrangement she finds it a bless in disguise that the guy keeps his options open because she doesn't want to get emotionally attached and doesn't want the guy to get emotionally attached either. She also doesn't feel threatened by other women. If the FB moves on to a relationship with someone else she wishes him well and continues doing what she was doing with the other men that she was sleeping with.
Obviously that was not the reaction of this girl..
And check out that little detail: the ex is still around.Hence she might be feeling that there is still a chance with this guy or she might be having break up sex with this man.
ChristmasWish made an arrangement with her to be a FB. Behaving as a FB is not manipulative it is just sticking to the agreement. If the girl is not alright with him sleeping around and she is alright with her sleeping around that is unfair.
Why doesn't he have the right to express his jealousy and she has?
Obviously this woman doesn't know what she is asking and is a very confused person.


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Okay so I told her that it wasn't her business and it was just a friend. Then immediately changed the conversation by asking how was her day.
I think she is pretty pissed, she didn't answer until this morning and was really cold.

Had a party last night where her ex was. Some friends told me he was pissed, I told them I didn't give a damn about his feelings. I said hello. Couple minutes after when I was ordering drinks he came and said "hey bro about this whole story are we cool?" I said yeah why shouldn't I be cool. He asked me if I was tense. "No I don't see why I should be."
Then I said "you want a shot?".

Couple of minutes later he puked in the bar.

So this is where its at right now. I'm going to continue to play it aloof with her. At least that's all she'll get from me if she continues to hook up with retards on a saturday night.
Here's the thing about relationships...You don't game a girl in a relationship to keep her, and you don't game a girl to get her into a relationship. If she doesn't like you enough for who you are to for her to settle down, or she's not emotionally ready to settle down...then you'll just have a bad relationship. If she wants to be single and sleep around, and you continue to use jealousy to get her to chase, sure she may eventually just tie you down to keep you from other women. But it's not because she likes you. And then the relationship will just be her flip flopping on what she wants, hot cold, her cheating and "shit testing." You can't change what people want, you can manipulate their emotions to get to do stuff, not what she wants. She wants multiple dicks and freedom...she'll cheat , she'll flirt with other guys, she'll break up with you and get back with you. I can guarantee if you get this girl this way, you'll be back here posting "Gf hides her phone."..."Gf broke up with me out of the blue."..."Gf kissed a guy at the bar." Jealousy and fear of loss are powerful emotions but shouldnt be what makes a girl choose you. The timing is off with this girl, but you have oneitis so you'' continue to game her. And maybe this will be the experience that will teach you that you can't make someone want to be with you.
i kind of agree with this but at the same time, once you get into the relationship stage, if you have enough "relationship game" i think you can minimize most of this shit. basically if the girl falls in love with you and you frame it in such a way that not only will you be gone if she cheats but also get her to believe that if she cheats she is basically a terrible human being with no discipline and will feel incredible guilt... then i think you can reduce your chances of her cheating and fucking around as much as feasibly possible.

of course, it takes unbelievable subtlety and inner strength to actually pull that off. but it's possible. you can have your girl basically locked up as much as she'll ever be if you have enough game. but what makes a relationship good is different from what gets you the relationship.

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