not that it's that relevant but does anyone think the random "do you have any tattoos" text from her is basically comparing him to another dude? am i reading too much into that? i mean correct me if i'm wrong but they've fucked and she doesn't remember if he has tattoos or not? yikes...

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Thanks for the advice guys (and girl? not sure for maria) but it is spot on.

Almost immediately after the "serious" conversation I see she liked a pic of my on fbook.

Then she immediately starting texting me stuff that have nothing to do with all this. To explain: when we where out on a date she showed me an old blog she had when she was 12 and the content was hilarious. So she texted me some more of this stuff, such as a text she wrote for her bf of the time and said "if i ever fall in love with you at least you know what to expect. wow so ridiculous". I negged the shit out of all that with some "other than your grammar I don't see how much has changed" etc etc.

Conversation finished around 11 pm and I went out with friends.

I'll follow up but am definitely not texting her at the moment and will play hard to get. It's hard to do it but I need to adopt this "fuck it" attitude I have with other girls.

Again, thanks for the advice.

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hmm seems like a lot of texting so study up on some general text-game strategies:

1. for every 3 texts she sends you, send 1 or 2 back.
2. always make sure she texts last in a convo. you want her text to be the last one not yours.
3. don't send her long texts, a line or two max.


moving forward, do not invite her to ANYTHING whatsoever and keep this texting minimal. never initiate a text convo with her. respond to a text here and there but in general don't let this chick think she has the upper-hand. eventually she'll start complaining about it and that's when you start hitting her with the "uh you're not my gf babe ; )" lines. make her invite you to do something next. you've hit her up twice and she hasn't countered at all. time to take the reins from her.

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Agreed. And this is exactly what I had planned to do.

Btw forgot to answer the "tattoo" question you mentioned. I think it was more along the lines of a general question because couple minutes after that she asked if I played an instrument and stuff like that.

This chick is really weird because at times she seems interested and then at other times it feels like she is creating this barrier on purpose.

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My father once told me:"Son, we are good men in the family and don't have much weakness', but you'll quickly learn that women are our Achilles' heel."

Why do you want a ldr?

Of course she remembers. She is only making a point that she doesn't want a relationship in a point that she doesn't even remember his body.
She WANTS him to understand that maybe she might be sleeping with other guys just as a safety barrier to stop him getting any thoughts of getting in a relationship with her.

Yes maria_ is a girl and that's my name btw..
She liked your photo on facebook because she wanted to sweetened the situation. She knows that you want her as a gf and she knows that what she said to you sounded a bit harsh .. so she liked your photo to show you that all is good after your conversation.
From an outsider's view point that's just a mixed message and maybe a manipulation technique.. in her mind though she is just being nice. She declared where she stands with you and then she did something nice to continue her FB arrangement. In her mind her like was contributing to you liking her.. and keeping her where she wants.
The conversation continued for the same reason.. to establish that all is good between you.
What she does ie sharing things about herself show that she craves the emotional warmth that a relationship gives you but because she had bad experiences from relationships. That's why she wants a FB/FWB arrangement. Unless she gets bad experience from FB/FWB she will not think "relationships are so much better".This is why I suggested you treating her that way. She has to connect FB with something that also has a negative side to it. She has to face the truth.
At the moment she has set down the rules and you are following. She knows that she has you and she does whatever she likes.. she keeps her options open for someone better to come.. or she is just using this arrangement as it suits her to avoid maybe getting hurt from a break up.
Remember you are NOT playing hard-to-get. She is NOT chasing after you. You are the one that does that at the moment and she is not responding to it.
You are a simple FB and you are not playing your role as a FB. You are trying to push things instead. That's needy.
Unless you remove your feelings from the equation there is no way you are going to see a change in the situation.
Your mind set should be... she is nothing more than an unpaid prostitute. She will be there if I sleep around, she doesn't need pursuing she will give sex if I call her etc.
You are being nice to her like you are thinking about long term. Why are you thinking long term with someone that doesn't prove to you that they see you seriously as a person that they could be with long term ? It is like you have low confidence..
If she starts putting some effort and develops feelings start considering it. At the moment keep your standards high and wait until you see something that is worth your attention.

That's again playing her game. Calls should be only..
-Hey what's up fancy meeting up today?
-Yeah. What time?
- 8 o clock.
-Nice. Let's meet at my place ok?

No inbetween texts. Nothing. If she texts anything about anything else don't reply with nothing else than I am available for a hook up at that time. Do you fancy meeting up?
It gives a clear message that he is there for sex only. Who initiates doesn't matter as long as it is sex related and only and it is about arranging how to have sex.
That's what FBs do.
When she texts again "how are you?" He replies I am good. Fancy meeting up for sex? And then sexual flirting and then straight to arrangements. No sharing of personal stuff. If she persists you ignore or say you are busy.. It gives a clear message.
If she complains.. he just reminds her their agreement and he says that he doesn't want drama as their previous conversation.

She is not weird. She does what anyone would do if they only wanted a FB arrangement.
The minute she catches herself leading it towards a relationship she is putting barriers to keep things in check.
Men that don't want a relationship do the same things. Girls usually call this "mixed signals"..

She just texted me saying she was around my neighbourhood and asked what I was doing tonight.

Do I answer? Hadn't really planned anything.

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My father once told me:"Son, we are good men in the family and don't have much weakness', but you'll quickly learn that women are our Achilles' heel."

I hope you told her that you are busy helping the sexy new neighbour or some other woman you can figure out talking about. You are not her bf...
If you accept seeing her then she will have you under her thumb.
Suggest an alternative day.. for sex only of course

whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa hold up maria

what?!

no OP... she is hitting you up! you should agree, then fuck her, then kick her out. if she starts doing any friendzone shit then just dive right into the first post maria had where you start treating her like a FB and nothing more and you remind her y'all are just FB's and nothing more. do not go hang out with her, invite her over and fuck her and kick her out.


maria: he just played it cool the past couple days and now she's chasing, she just counteroffered... why in god's name would he say he's too busy???? that risks her losing interest yet again and going to someone else. this is the moment now, he can bang her then kick her to the fucking curb. it's go time baby!


when the girl who has strictly said we are fuck buddies hits you up asking what you are doing tonight she is trying to fuck you, so at this point you win the game. don't fuck around with texting her and delaying shit man, you won so go make it happen then punish her for wanting to just be fuck buddies with an awesome guy.

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You must be overconfident and cocksure, even if you haven't got a god damn thing in the world going for you. And you must fail with women until you do not fear the possibility of failure, whereupon you will succeed wildly.

That's the point. She is not hitting.. She is also not chasing.
She gave him the talk about being FBs and now she is making sure that their agreement is the way she wants it.
She would had been chasing if she was suggesting that they meet up for something other than sex. She hasn't changed what she was doing. She continues doing what she was doing and she has the upper hand.
Not only he didn't play it cold these days... she also gave him a talk. He might had told her what he told her but she has her doubts... or she is closely watching to see if he is still trying to turn it into a relationship.
A guy that has a FB has also a life and women on rotation. If he is always available he only has her.
Why should he be afraid that he is going to lose his FB?
She should take the message that she is NOT the only woman in his life and that she is not the MOST important woman out of all he is seeing. Suggesting a different date to meet up is not turning her down. It says that he is just busy.
Fear is not attractive..

don't fall into the trap where you get what you want but you're trying to game the girl so hard that you lose her. if the girl hits you up trying to hang out at night, you fucking hang out with her unless you actually can't do it. the objective of the game is to fuck the girl and throwing that away makes absolutely no sense. now if she just wants to get dinner or go do something other than bang then you say no to that. she is only allowed to come over and have sex and leave. if she starts steering it elsewhere you bail to her face and you tell her that's not your arrangement.

and fuck her really well man, that will keep her around more than any other game bullshit. the best guy in bed wins unless he has major, insurmountable disadvantages elsewhere.

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You must be overconfident and cocksure, even if you haven't got a god damn thing in the world going for you. And you must fail with women until you do not fear the possibility of failure, whereupon you will succeed wildly.

precisely why OP cannot in good faith PRETEND he is busy with other girls JUST TO GET THE GIRL

HOWEVER, there is a caveat:

OP if you already told this chick you are busy this week... then you should probably not be suddenly available to bang her.

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You must be overconfident and cocksure, even if you haven't got a god damn thing in the world going for you. And you must fail with women until you do not fear the possibility of failure, whereupon you will succeed wildly.