Hahah sorry guys,

I didn't mean it like that, but to be fair, I did work my ass off to get these high quality problems lol

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It is deception. Nothing else you say is relevant. Explain to me why it's necessary to lie to women, abuse their trust and waste their precious time. Tell me why a guy, even one who's dominant, challenging and unpredictable, simply won't meet his full potential without living a double life where everything his SOs believe he is has no foundation in reality. Explain to me why it's necessary for a guy to not only tell lies, but be a lie.

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I never said it was necessary. You said that, not me. I'm not saying it's impossible for a man to be happy in a monogamous relationship. I was just relating my own experience to the OP. If you don't like it, change the channel.

I started seeing the blonde girl 2 years ago, then I met the Chinese girl 6 months ago. I still liked the blonde so decided to keep both of them. Most men would do this if they could get away with it. I'm not hurting anyone because they don't know about it. Why is this so hard to understand?

Do I feel any guilt? None whatsoever. We are all selfish. Stop pretending you're not. Even if you are monogamous and ultra nice to your girlfriend, you are still selfish. You are nice because you want the girl to like you. See? It's still all about you. Everybody is selfish. I just express my selfishness in a different way.

And please explain how a girl living life to the full, going on exotic holidays and discovering herself sexually is all a waste of time. "If something's not fun, it's not worth doing." Good quote. I stole it from your signature.

Not all women are looking for marriage you know.

Hunter, complete this sentence if you can "I lied to these girls, because...."

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"... because I'm always horny."

I'm on the fence with this just because of real situations that I've been through. Being clingy has cost me more women than cheating. As a matter of fact, everytime I've been caught cheating it has been easier to regain forgiveness. Being needy on the other hand has been much harder to recover from. So my entire point is that women seem to place less value on honesty/fidelity than men do. I've even been in relationships with women that have said if I cheat just don't let her find out about it.

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Yeah...I understand what you're getting at, but I have a difficulty when fiction is an argument for real life. Hollywood has always been unrealistic when it comes to how men and women think.

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The trouble I have Jack is that the posts so far in defence of cheating seem to consist of "well, women will tolerate it", in fact that seems to be the defence for any other kind of morally reprehensible behaviour, "well women don't require me to have a moral compass, so I'm off the hook".

I hear from this forum (and pretty much nowhere else) that men are leaders, initiators, must take responsibility for what happens in a relationship. But also that the fact women don't call men on their shit is a justification for having low (and I mean low) standards. Which is it? Are you the leader in any given relationship, or do you take a woman's permission to do something as the only green light you need?

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I get it...but when you start saying what is morally correct, you are not necessarily dealing with reality. Truth be told, society decides what is morally correct. At one time it was okay to have multiple wives, but at some point it became morally wrong. So if a woman decides she is okay with a certain situation, it may be against one groups belief...but who is that group to decide what's best for everyone else?

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Cheating is a man-made concept. You only think it's wrong because of social engineering. Do you think it's morally wrong that an alpha gorilla or lion fucks all the females while the beta guys either watch or jerk off?

As for your youtube link, let's just pretend it's not a scripted movie and pretend it's realistic. It starts off with the old guy putting his woman on a pedestal, worshipping the ground she walks upon, needy AFC shit basically. Then he hates himself for cheating on her. But in reality he would still be cheating if he was fit and young. He only regrets it now because he is on his deathbed and he's getting all religious in case he goes to hell. Old people do this all the time. It's sad really. They spend their whole lives not being religious, then suddenly embrace religion when they're about to die. It's like a child trying to be really good 2 weeks before Christmas.

Cheating on your woman may not be your idea of "right", but I know from experience that a woman who feels replaceable will work harder to keep you.

Regret is for pussies.

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Guys like Hunter are why this is called the seduction community, not the morality community or the rationality community.

I swear no good will come of this.

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There's nothing rational or moral about picking up women. It's pure instinct.

And it makes me feel alive.