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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:28 pm 
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Ohhh okay thanks man I appreciate the harsh truth.

Update: Phone call went great, we had excellent banter but said she might be busy Sat. She counter-offered with Sunday but I rejected and pushed for Saturday again. She kept talking about possibly going out with her friends but might reconsider and said she would text to let me know. I made a point of saying "don't text me last minute, let me know before 3 PM if you are busy so I can make other plans."
Why would you reject Sunday? Were you not free then? You really cannot get game out of your head for even 1 second can you? Over gaming is a major issue, so it's not just you, but seriously man, if you have sunday free, why not just meet on sunday?? You think you are 'supplicating?" or whatever. Who cares? Do you want a date, or to "win the frame war". Also you don't text me last minute is a horrible text.. again over-gaming trying to play hard to get" Read up about over-gaming, and stop doing it and you'll be way more successful.
Isn't it way harder to close on a Sunday? Nobody wants to get a little loose, stay out late, and drink when they have work/school the next day. The opportunity for sex seemed very low. But then again, I'm a noobie so I could be totally wrong, that was just my reasoning. Also I pushed for Saturday because she didn't really have a solid Saturday plan. Sounded more like the plan was for her and her friends to fart around the house hanging out.


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Ohhh okay thanks man I appreciate the harsh truth.

Update: Phone call went great, we had excellent banter but said she might be busy Sat. She counter-offered with Sunday but I rejected and pushed for Saturday again. She kept talking about possibly going out with her friends but might reconsider and said she would text to let me know. I made a point of saying "don't text me last minute, let me know before 3 PM if you are busy so I can make other plans."
Why would you reject Sunday? Were you not free then? You really cannot get game out of your head for even 1 second can you? Over gaming is a major issue, so it's not just you, but seriously man, if you have sunday free, why not just meet on sunday?? You think you are 'supplicating?" or whatever. Who cares? Do you want a date, or to "win the frame war". Also you don't text me last minute is a horrible text.. again over-gaming trying to play hard to get" Read up about over-gaming, and stop doing it and you'll be way more successful.
Isn't it way harder to close on a Sunday? Nobody wants to get a little loose, stay out late, and drink when they have work/school the next day. The opportunity for sex seemed very low. But then again, I'm a noobie so I could be totally wrong, that was just my reasoning. Also I pushed for Saturday because she didn't really have a solid Saturday plan. Sounded more like the plan was for her and her friends to fart around the house hanging out.
You know what's way harder to close? A girl you never see in real life in the first place. No, there is almost no difference in the days etc. for closing with a girl who is into you.

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The second girl is actually telling you what I told you posts ago. You can be out there and still able to carry a normal conversation. As to closing, guess what....when you meet these girls in person and you want to have sex with them, how can you? When you escalate, like go for the kiss or whatever, you give some power away. Sometimes, the girl will want you so much she will jump your bones, but let's be honest, if you play this cocky guy all the time, how can you make a move? You need to start toning it down. You're gonna joke joke joke and when you try to fuck it will be awkward and you'll get I don't know you enough.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:47 pm 
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You know what's way harder to close? A girl you never see in real life in the first place. No, there is almost no difference in the days etc. for closing with a girl who is into you.
Damn that's a good point. So tomorrow if she says she is busy Sat, would it be too late to accept the Sunday date? Is there a way to salvage it in a "cool" way or should I just stop that altogether?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:49 pm 
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The second girl is actually telling you what I told you posts ago. You can be out there and still able to carry a normal conversation. As to closing, guess what....when you meet these girls in person and you want to have sex with them, how can you? When you escalate, like go for the kiss or whatever, you give some power away. Sometimes, the girl will want you so much she will jump your bones, but let's be honest, if you play this cocky guy all the time, how can you make a move? You need to start toning it down. You're gonna joke joke joke and when you try to fuck it will be awkward and you'll get I don't know you enough.
My fear is that if I go too normal the conversation will get boring. Is there a way to keep normal convo engaging? Or when they desire normal convo, give them a little then go for the date and have the normal convo there?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:56 am 
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Girls don't have sex on Sundays? Good thing nobody ever told me that. Just busting your balls OP.

A case of overgaming for sure.

She questions Saturday but proposes Sunday: "let me see...im going on a hike but im free after 7, what do u say".

As for backtracking now that you've already rejected Sunday, I don't know how that conversation went so there's no way to give an accurate answer there.

You're making this way more difficult than it needs to be. You are two human beings who are interested in eachother. Get out and have some fun.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:20 pm 
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Well, looks like I bombed it. Flaked with no communication since Sat.

Alright, so I think these are the important takeaways from the thread, feel free to chime in:

-Don't overgame after the initial opener
-Keep messaging to a minimum
-Don't try so hard to be funny
-Once you get the number, send an introduction text immediately after to get your name/number in her phone. Avoid the awkward "Who is this?"
-Keep it simple. Be direct/normal and go for the date
-Don't be pushy and require too much compliance for a first date, take what you can get and be cool about it.

Thanks everyone for all the advice and support.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:03 am 
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Well, looks like I bombed it. Flaked with no communication since Sat.

Alright, so I think these are the important takeaways from the thread, feel free to chime in:

-Don't overgame after the initial opener
-Keep messaging to a minimum
-Don't try so hard to be funny
-Once you get the number, send an introduction text immediately after to get your name/number in her phone. Avoid the awkward "Who is this?"
-Keep it simple. Be direct/normal and go for the date
-Don't be pushy and require too much compliance for a first date, take what you can get and be cool about it.

Thanks everyone for all the advice and support.
You should take the positives you had the attention of these girls for a length of time until you over gamed. start game is fine transition into serious convo build a bit of comfort have a phone call and then secure the date.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:54 am 
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Girls don't want these games online, they just want to meet and see if there is chemistry and if they like you. You think she gives a shit about you before you've actually met? Of course sometimes it works to wait and play the game, but it is inefficient; generally you want to go for the date quick, as a matter of fact, TONS of women write this in their profile in what they are looking for: "A guy that actually wants to meet"

I've tried all the approaches, and while the date is sometimes better if you get it if you chat a bunch before meeting, you miss out on many dates, and the dates are usually good anyways if you have game.
I've never tried online dating, but this has certainly been my experience with girls I've barely met.

Not only that, but the ones who go out with you easier, seem to just be much more into you.

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