I thought for certain that the initial "silly goose" message was a text. She gave you her # to use it. It is not needy to text or call a girl, it shows you are interested in her. In the animal kingdom, males pursue females. When she saw the ONLINE silly goose message she possibly thought, "great, another guy who won't pursue."

One of the many reasons you want to get them out on the date A. S. A. Fucking P. is that say one wrong thing in online or text game, even a single word that she doesn't like and it's off. Women are looking to disqualify. Don't give them a reason to.

This is also why it is advisable to say as little as possible (including at the first "date") until you've had sex with a girl. Not the least of which reasons for doing so is that you separate yourself drastically from every sausage who falls all over himself to tell the girl of all of his (boring to her) accomplishments and toys.

Well it's been pretty much the whole day. Should I touch base again tomorrow or wait until she responds? I don't think she saw the first "silly goose" online message yet. She hasn't been online the entire day. Do you guys think she is gaming or loseing interest? Should I just skip texting altogether and just call her?

I don't know if you can salvage this. Maybe, maybe not. You're coming off way too gamey. Banter should be sprinkled in there, not just kept going all the time. If you get their number and can send a message shortly after, you can use a random one like the one you used and she can assume it's the guy who she just gave her number to. But out of the blue after a while she'll be confused. At that point, a "hey this is X" would have been better. Funny is good, but few girls want a guy who is just joking around all the time. Same way few girls want a guy who is sexual all the time. Or a guy who is serious all the time. Show that you can be serious and you can banter. Switch it up. Once you get the number, stop sending online messages.

It's last resort time at this point. Unless she pings back, I'd call.

Has she agreed to your rapid dating action yet ?

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Alright here's the update:

Do you guys think she's trying to game? I don't buy the glitch thing for a minute but her responses are same-day and pretty lengthy so she must still be interested.

On a side note, I got this other thing going on. Got any recommendations on how I can turn this around? This is a convo about 49-ish messages in. We hit it off pretty fast and just started chatting away. I'm trying to escalate it sexually a little.

You can choose to listen to my advice or not .. but I will repeat it: You are over gaming, big time. Stop having these back and forth conversations. Simple, direct, suggest meeting up sometime, and then propose a date, time, and place.

For example:

'blah blah blah ... We should meet up sometime.' and leave your number, or go with "Btw leave me your number so we can meet up sometime". No transition from blah blah blah, nothing, just "We should meet up sometime."

When you get he digits text her: "Hey this is GhostRider from okc or whatever, hows Tuesday at 8pm at XYZ for a drink"

Easy. Quick. Simple. Works.

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Are you talking about the first or second girl? First girl I already tried setting something up and she came back with the "am I supposed to be charmed" response. I'll try to be more direct again over the phone for the lunchtime call. Is trying to schedule an evening get together on the same day over the phone too soon? Especially on a Friday?

Second girl, I asked for her number about halfway through the convo and she said something like "I don't talk on the phone." So I have no choice but to game until I get the number, or at least that's what I think.

You are being your own worst enemy with your texting.

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If you didn't get a number from a girl you are chatting online a bunch she is probably a waste of time. Move on to another.

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Yeah I really hate my texting. I was a AFC for so long I'm afraid to go direct without adding game.

It's not the fact that you're adding game. It's that you are not adding good game. It seems like you are trying to be cocky and funny and they can see you coming from a mile away. They are giving you hints, practically begging, to give them a real conversation but you are stuck in gamey mode that is losing it's charm. Is it possible that you send a text that doesn't include a joke or bragging about your awesomeness? You may get some information about her that you can use to your advantage.

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Ohhh okay thanks man I appreciate the harsh truth.

Update: Phone call went great, we had excellent banter but said she might be busy Sat. She counter-offered with Sunday but I rejected and pushed for Saturday again. She kept talking about possibly going out with her friends but might reconsider and said she would text to let me know. I made a point of saying "don't text me last minute, let me know before 3 PM if you are busy so I can make other plans."

Why would you reject Sunday? Were you not free then? You really cannot get game out of your head for even 1 second can you? Over gaming is a major issue, so it's not just you, but seriously man, if you have sunday free, why not just meet on sunday?? You think you are 'supplicating?" or whatever. Who cares? Do you want a date, or to "win the frame war". Also you don't text me last minute is a horrible text.. again over-gaming trying to play hard to get" Read up about over-gaming, and stop doing it and you'll be way more successful.

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