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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:10 pm 
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Yeah that's my next move. She talks a lot about cooking in her profile, so I was thinking of leading with a neg "any man of worth can already cook for himself, blah blah" but then qualify her on playing hard to get and communicating i'm interested then lead into setting up a date. Sound good?
I think no. Stop with the games. Say this: "Let's get together sometime btw.. are you around Thursday [or some day]"
Alright boys, lets see what happens:

"You silly goose, I love that you play hard to get. Conversation is so much better when drinks are involved. When are you free these next few days?"


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I'm sure there are a plethora of other women to reach out to and try to do the same thing with, though I doubt you would find yourself as satisfied. :p

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Congratulations on the #, dude. Good turnaround as far as who is qualifying who. And she is qualifying very hard and seductively.
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Alright boys, lets see what happens:

"You silly goose, I love that you play hard to get. Conversation is so much better when drinks are involved. When are you free these next few days?"
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I disagree with jumping in straight for a date here. Offering a girl a date shows how interested you are definitely. But you had all the power by saying there are 30 other attractive girls. She tried to fling you a curve ball by saying so attractiveness is the no1 thing you like then your reply should have been -

'well lets be honest everyone likes to be attracted to the person they are seeing, its in our biology to feel attraction. If there is no attraction there is no spark and if there is no spark it doesnt matter how good your chat is the relationship wont grow and prosper. BUT ! attractiveness must be accompanied with a great personality to feel true attraction. So my proposition to you is... IF you produce this personality which im not going to deny you are doing very well so far. I will take you for a few drinks this week at some point, if your free that is.'

why i would reply like this you may ask.

1- shes trying to bait you in the attractiveness field to be AFC and say no of course not i love a girl with a great personality who can make me laugh bla bla bla.
2- your making her qualify herself more to you while showing slight interest but keeping her at arms length.
3- your propositioning her if she does well she gets a treat... ie you take her for drinks. Everyone loves a challenge and to be treated well so she will 100% work harder for you. Plus you have hinted at a drink not a date or anything over the top.

All the traditional PUA's say text should be used to close a date ASAP !!!! this is not true 100%.
Shes sitting hooked on your fishing pole and you can pull at anytime but you want to pull when you have the most attraction/mystery built up around yourself. SHES NEVER MET YOU THEREFORE YOU HAVE TO GIVE HER REASONS TO WORK AND WANT TO WORK FOR YOU. if you get her number and just say bla bla bla lets go for a drink thursday... she says yeah that will be cool 80% chance she will flake but if you build up this mystery/story and keep in frame which im saying to do she will 100% not flake. She will want to meet this mysterious confident funny cool guy whose reeling her in slowly and tiring out her cynicalness.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:34 am 
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I disagree with jumping in straight for a date here. Offering a girl a date shows how interested you are definitely. But you had all the power by saying there are 30 other attractive girls. She tried to fling you a curve ball by saying so attractiveness is the no1 thing you like then your reply should have been -

'well lets be honest everyone likes to be attracted to the person they are seeing, its in our biology to feel attraction. If there is no attraction there is no spark and if there is no spark it doesnt matter how good your chat is the relationship wont grow and prosper. BUT ! attractiveness must be accompanied with a great personality to feel true attraction. So my proposition to you is... IF you produce this personality which im not going to deny you are doing very well so far. I will take you for a few drinks this week at some point, if your free that is.'

why i would reply like this you may ask.

1- shes trying to bait you in the attractiveness field to be AFC and say no of course not i love a girl with a great personality who can make me laugh bla bla bla.
2- your making her qualify herself more to you while showing slight interest but keeping her at arms length.
3- your propositioning her if she does well she gets a treat... ie you take her for drinks. Everyone loves a challenge and to be treated well so she will 100% work harder for you. Plus you have hinted at a drink not a date or anything over the top.

All the traditional PUA's say text should be used to close a date ASAP !!!! this is not true 100%.
Shes sitting hooked on your fishing pole and you can pull at anytime but you want to pull when you have the most attraction/mystery built up around yourself. SHES NEVER MET YOU THEREFORE YOU HAVE TO GIVE HER REASONS TO WORK AND WANT TO WORK FOR YOU. if you get her number and just say bla bla bla lets go for a drink thursday... she says yeah that will be cool 80% chance she will flake but if you build up this mystery/story and keep in frame which im saying to do she will 100% not flake. She will want to meet this mysterious confident funny cool guy whose reeling her in slowly and tiring out her cynicalness.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:08 pm 
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I disagree with jumping in straight for a date here. Offering a girl a date shows how interested you are definitely. But you had all the power by saying there are 30 other attractive girls. She tried to fling you a curve ball by saying so attractiveness is the no1 thing you like then your reply should have been -

'well lets be honest everyone likes to be attracted to the person they are seeing, its in our biology to feel attraction. If there is no attraction there is no spark and if there is no spark it doesnt matter how good your chat is the relationship wont grow and prosper. BUT ! attractiveness must be accompanied with a great personality to feel true attraction. So my proposition to you is... IF you produce this personality which im not going to deny you are doing very well so far. I will take you for a few drinks this week at some point, if your free that is.'

why i would reply like this you may ask.

1- shes trying to bait you in the attractiveness field to be AFC and say no of course not i love a girl with a great personality who can make me laugh bla bla bla.
2- your making her qualify herself more to you while showing slight interest but keeping her at arms length.
3- your propositioning her if she does well she gets a treat... ie you take her for drinks. Everyone loves a challenge and to be treated well so she will 100% work harder for you. Plus you have hinted at a drink not a date or anything over the top.

All the traditional PUA's say text should be used to close a date ASAP !!!! this is not true 100%.
Shes sitting hooked on your fishing pole and you can pull at anytime but you want to pull when you have the most attraction/mystery built up around yourself. SHES NEVER MET YOU THEREFORE YOU HAVE TO GIVE HER REASONS TO WORK AND WANT TO WORK FOR YOU. if you get her number and just say bla bla bla lets go for a drink thursday... she says yeah that will be cool 80% chance she will flake but if you build up this mystery/story and keep in frame which im saying to do she will 100% not flake. She will want to meet this mysterious confident funny cool guy whose reeling her in slowly and tiring out her cynicalness.
No.

Girls don't want these games online, they just want to meet and see if there is chemistry and if they like you. You think she gives a shit about you before you've actually met? Of course sometimes it works to wait and play the game, but it is inefficient; generally you want to go for the date quick, as a matter of fact, TONS of women write this in their profile in what they are looking for: "A guy that actually wants to meet"

I've tried all the approaches, and while the date is sometimes better if you get it if you chat a bunch before meeting, you miss out on many dates, and the dates are usually good anyways if you have game.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:18 pm 
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I disagree with jumping in straight for a date here. Offering a girl a date shows how interested you are definitely. But you had all the power by saying there are 30 other attractive girls. She tried to fling you a curve ball by saying so attractiveness is the no1 thing you like then your reply should have been -

'well lets be honest everyone likes to be attracted to the person they are seeing, its in our biology to feel attraction. If there is no attraction there is no spark and if there is no spark it doesnt matter how good your chat is the relationship wont grow and prosper. BUT ! attractiveness must be accompanied with a great personality to feel true attraction. So my proposition to you is... IF you produce this personality which im not going to deny you are doing very well so far. I will take you for a few drinks this week at some point, if your free that is.'

why i would reply like this you may ask.

1- shes trying to bait you in the attractiveness field to be AFC and say no of course not i love a girl with a great personality who can make me laugh bla bla bla.
2- your making her qualify herself more to you while showing slight interest but keeping her at arms length.
3- your propositioning her if she does well she gets a treat... ie you take her for drinks. Everyone loves a challenge and to be treated well so she will 100% work harder for you. Plus you have hinted at a drink not a date or anything over the top.

All the traditional PUA's say text should be used to close a date ASAP !!!! this is not true 100%.
Shes sitting hooked on your fishing pole and you can pull at anytime but you want to pull when you have the most attraction/mystery built up around yourself. SHES NEVER MET YOU THEREFORE YOU HAVE TO GIVE HER REASONS TO WORK AND WANT TO WORK FOR YOU. if you get her number and just say bla bla bla lets go for a drink thursday... she says yeah that will be cool 80% chance she will flake but if you build up this mystery/story and keep in frame which im saying to do she will 100% not flake. She will want to meet this mysterious confident funny cool guy whose reeling her in slowly and tiring out her cynicalness.
No.

Girls don't want these games online, they just want to meet and see if there is chemistry and if they like you. You think she gives a shit about you before you've actually met? Of course sometimes it works to wait and play the game, but it is inefficient; generally you want to go for the date quick, as a matter of fact, TONS of women write this in their profile in what they are looking for: "A guy that actually wants to meet"

I've tried all the approaches, and while the date is sometimes better if you get it if you chat a bunch before meeting, you miss out on many dates, and the dates are usually good anyways if you have game.
Disagree. I have been playing this text game for years now - This girl is smart and not some slut who you can take on a date and fuck on the first night - shes trying to get you to work for her... the girl should be working for you. I agree sometimes a quick date can work but with girls who are worth while a quick date isnt a quick fix. Shes on a dating website or whatever she wants to find a guy different from all the rest. How many guys do you think are saying to her ' awww lets go for a drink sometime' hundreds !!! yes some wont get any attention from her but you have her attention and how you keep it is what im trying to tell you. She's Cynical so you jumping to giving her the date when shes not impressed you enough to earn it firstly is average online game.

Your going to spend cash on this chick after 5 texts lol. No thanks Fury i would rather make a girl work and see if shes worth my time and money... So i totally disagree with the quick date but each to there own. Currently im texting 3 girls from online game in the last week and i have 4 who have text me previously who i have dated and fucked... quick dates are old school. There is a new online age growing.

Take for example TINDER this app alot of hot girls 9/10s use it to see who they know whose on it they dont seriously look for a boyfriend on it they get hundreds of messages/gmatching them. Trust me one of my best girl friends uses it for this reason. To lay these girls you have to have good online game and a quick date wont fix jack shit she'll either flake or will be nervous and uncomfortable.

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I disagree with jumping in straight for a date here. Offering a girl a date shows how interested you are definitely. But you had all the power by saying there are 30 other attractive girls. She tried to fling you a curve ball by saying so attractiveness is the no1 thing you like then your reply should have been -

'well lets be honest everyone likes to be attracted to the person they are seeing, its in our biology to feel attraction. If there is no attraction there is no spark and if there is no spark it doesnt matter how good your chat is the relationship wont grow and prosper. BUT ! attractiveness must be accompanied with a great personality to feel true attraction. So my proposition to you is... IF you produce this personality which im not going to deny you are doing very well so far. I will take you for a few drinks this week at some point, if your free that is.'

why i would reply like this you may ask.

1- shes trying to bait you in the attractiveness field to be AFC and say no of course not i love a girl with a great personality who can make me laugh bla bla bla.
2- your making her qualify herself more to you while showing slight interest but keeping her at arms length.
3- your propositioning her if she does well she gets a treat... ie you take her for drinks. Everyone loves a challenge and to be treated well so she will 100% work harder for you. Plus you have hinted at a drink not a date or anything over the top.

All the traditional PUA's say text should be used to close a date ASAP !!!! this is not true 100%.
Shes sitting hooked on your fishing pole and you can pull at anytime but you want to pull when you have the most attraction/mystery built up around yourself. SHES NEVER MET YOU THEREFORE YOU HAVE TO GIVE HER REASONS TO WORK AND WANT TO WORK FOR YOU. if you get her number and just say bla bla bla lets go for a drink thursday... she says yeah that will be cool 80% chance she will flake but if you build up this mystery/story and keep in frame which im saying to do she will 100% not flake. She will want to meet this mysterious confident funny cool guy whose reeling her in slowly and tiring out her cynicalness.
No.

Girls don't want these games online, they just want to meet and see if there is chemistry and if they like you. You think she gives a shit about you before you've actually met? Of course sometimes it works to wait and play the game, but it is inefficient; generally you want to go for the date quick, as a matter of fact, TONS of women write this in their profile in what they are looking for: "A guy that actually wants to meet"

I've tried all the approaches, and while the date is sometimes better if you get it if you chat a bunch before meeting, you miss out on many dates, and the dates are usually good anyways if you have game.
Disagree. I have been playing this text game for years now - This girl is smart and not some slut who you can take on a date and fuck on the first night - shes trying to get you to work for her... the girl should be working for you. I agree sometimes a quick date can work but with girls who are worth while a quick date isnt a quick fix. Shes on a dating website or whatever she wants to find a guy different from all the rest. How many guys do you think are saying to her ' awww lets go for a drink sometime' hundreds !!! yes some wont get any attention from her but you have her attention and how you keep it is what im trying to tell you. She's Cynical so you jumping to giving her the date when shes not impressed you enough to earn it firstly is average online game.

Your going to spend cash on this chick after 5 texts lol. No thanks Fury i would rather make a girl work and see if shes worth my time and money... So i totally disagree with the quick date but each to there own. Currently im texting 3 girls from online game in the last week and i have 4 who have text me previously who i have dated and fucked... quick dates are old school. There is a new online age growing.

Take for example TINDER this app alot of hot girls 9/10s use it to see who they know whose on it they dont seriously look for a boyfriend on it they get hundreds of messages/gmatching them. Trust me one of my best girl friends uses it for this reason. To lay these girls you have to have good online game and a quick date wont fix jack shit she'll either flake or will be nervous and uncomfortable.
The fact that you say things like this: "This girl is smart and not some slut who you can take on a date and fuck on the first night" shows me how little experience you actually have with online dating. Whatever, OP can decide what he wants to decide. I've slept with well over 100 women from online dating, many drs, lawyers, ivy league educated, etc... most on the first date. SO, I'd rather meet in person and get laid and then decide if i want to date them or not vs texting 20 women all day long. But to each his own. And the cost of a date doesn't matter to many people, so maybe money is a non issue for the OP?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:46 pm 
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Money is a non issue to myself but i would rather spend it on someone whose funny and charismatic than someone whose a slut and has a date planned for the next night.

If you seriously think im inexperienced then thats your judgement. Your attitude to someone disagreeing with you is a bit immature but again thats down to you. Your throwing numbers at me as if your the boss. I dont really care how many girls you have slept with. I value quality over quantity and i can assure you i get both. So before you make your judgements i think you should be a bit more mature and just say 'Stenic1 i actually disagree with you on this one heres the reasons why- getting them out on a rapid date gives you a better chance to fuck them...'

I would respect you more if you gave constructive criticism instead of spitting your dummy out because someone disagree's with you.

Maybe the OP doesnt want to just fuck her maybe he wants a serious relationship and shes exactly what hes looking for. If thats what he wants then he should cover all his bases.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:05 pm 
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I say, get the date and do whatever you want in person. What she says online doesn't really matter, it doesn't make her a catch if she sees you after writing a list of her best qualities. Whatever she says could be bs, and she has time to think of a good response. In person you can decide whether she's worth anything.


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Money is a non issue to myself but i would rather spend it on someone whose funny and charismatic than someone whose a slut and has a date planned for the next night.

If you seriously think im inexperienced then thats your judgement. Your attitude to someone disagreeing with you is a bit immature but again thats down to you. Your throwing numbers at me as if your the boss. I dont really care how many girls you have slept with. I value quality over quantity and i can assure you i get both. So before you make your judgements i think you should be a bit more mature and just say 'Stenic1 i actually disagree with you on this one heres the reasons why- getting them out on a rapid date gives you a better chance to fuck them...'

I would respect you more if you gave constructive criticism instead of spitting your dummy out because someone disagree's with you.

Maybe the OP doesnt want to just fuck her maybe he wants a serious relationship and shes exactly what hes looking for. If thats what he wants then he should cover all his bases.
And you throwing 'I've been doing this text game for years' at me is any different than throwing numbers?

Regardless of you trying to shoot the messenger (ironically what you accuse me of doing, go figure), I disagree. I've done both approaches, and getting them out fast has worked MUCH MUCH better for me: the odds of sleeping with them on the first date sometimes goes down but only barely, because well, almost no girl will be attracted to you enough from texting to tilt the odds so heavily in your favor if the chemistry and interaction in person when you meet isn't there.

The downside of dragging it out? There are many

(1) The longer you wait, the more time there is for uncertainty such as other men entering the picture, you both becoming busy, the "attraction" if you can even call it that fading, etc. etc.
(2) You could be wasting your time on a girl who has no intention of meeting but just likes to flirt over text or whatever
(3) They get concerned you have something to hide face to face and that's why you are trying to charm them so much over text
(4) They are concerned you lack balls and confidence to just ask them out

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I already sent the "You silly goose" message from above. She hasn't been online since prior to that message though so she hasn't got it yet. However, I do have a her number. Should I wait for her to see the message or text her? And if so, what should I text? Touch base or go for the date again over text?


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I already sent the "You silly goose" message from above. She hasn't been online since prior to that message though so she hasn't got it yet. However, I do have a her number. Should I wait for her to see the message or text her? And if so, what should I text? Touch base or go for the date again over text?
Oh you had her number you should TEXT her to get her out on a date then ...

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I already sent the "You silly goose" message from above. She hasn't been online since prior to that message though so she hasn't got it yet. However, I do have a her number. Should I wait for her to see the message or text her? And if so, what should I text? Touch base or go for the date again over text?
Oh you had her number you should TEXT her to get her out on a date then ...
But I haven't given her my number yet, if I text her I give it out by default. Isn't it a bit needy to immediately start texting her after getting the number? I would think it shows a little self restraint to get her number and still not even use it yet. But maybe that's too much online/text game still?

But anyway, what is my next course of action?


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I already sent the "You silly goose" message from above. She hasn't been online since prior to that message though so she hasn't got it yet. However, I do have a her number. Should I wait for her to see the message or text her? And if so, what should I text? Touch base or go for the date again over text?
Oh you had her number you should TEXT her to get her out on a date then ...
But I haven't given her my number yet, if I text her I give it out by default. Isn't it a bit needy to immediately start texting her after getting the number? I would think it shows a little self restraint to get her number and still not even use it yet. But maybe that's too much online/text game still?

But anyway, what is my next course of action?
What did she give you her number for, if not to use it? Text her: Hey this is GhostRider777 from okc or wherever you met blah blah .. that is what I do just about everytime I get the number .. either way, at this stage you kinda gotta wait it out though given how much back and forth bs you guys already had, you can just text her if you don't hear from her in a day or two (text her asking her OUT, not some other bs, and don't bring up the message you sent)>

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Well now it's the waiting game I suppose? Or did I fuck up?


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