Wait a minute are you hitting on me!!! I think i should take off my avatar lol you have been starrying at it for too long
And for the record im not a bro! I prefered to be called by my real name, but since i cant say it here then you can just call me M_style

Im just messing with you Sip =P and i appreciate the input!

Obviously, I wasn't calling you a "bro" if I said I'd love for some "bro" to come up to me and do that.

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- Zip

You know I love you guys, but I'm about to ask a question that might not help you at all.

It will, however, help me.

Zip,

As an attractive woman, how do you manage your approach with other women? My biggest sticking point is disarming the quasi-bitch shield of competitiveness that HB's react to unfamiliar HB's with. Guy's have to prove they're worth her time and overcome her disinterest. I have to disarm her competitive streak and break through actual hostility.

Spark and I have been sarging together for a little while now, and although this isn't holding me back from opening groups or winging for him, it's still the boys who slip me their numbers at the end of the night.

Not that I wanted this all to be easy. That would be boring.

Thanks in advance.

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Bright

“Ridicule is like a wolf: it only destroys those who fear it”

The Word of the Day:
saucy: (adj) impertinently bold and impudent; amusingly forward and flippant; irrepressible.

Bright,
You are absolutely welcome to post whatever questions you need answered here, and on the rest of the forum. I bet you, the guys will learn SOMETHING from this, even if it's how to TRY to steal a target away from an Alpha Femme. I know exactly what you are talking about. I've also contacted one of my mentors, who the most amazing natural lesbian pick up artist I've ever seen, to answer this question in tandem.

When I set my target on a cute girl, from the moment of first eye contact, she knows what I want. That's because I have the power to out compete her in that area, and she's all for it.

However, going after incredibly gorgeous women, especially if you're not sure if they are interested in girls, I take a disarming route. I offer them a friendly release from the obvious boredom they are experiencing in the club. (Really hot girls who are looking for someone to open them always look/act bored.)

I offer them something different, in a relaxed way. That's communicated through where I'm standing in the bar (calibrated to her body language and where she's looking.) If she's the one making fun of her stupid girl friends for drinking like pussies, I'm the one challenging her to a jager and whiskey back. If she's a smoker, I'm outside with a zippo. I watch their social dynamics and get a step ahead. Then, when I'm in their frame, I turn my frame on so that it swallows her. I am her escape. I break her routine. We talk about how everyone in the place is so droll, and we dance. I start flipping her attraction switches. BAM.

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hey zip, i have a question about a small aspect of kino, when i was AFC and i first heard about kino i would do everything possible to initiate kino just to get comfortable with it. it helped alot, but one thing i was never sure of like there is this hb7.5 and she dropped her keys, ive known her for a while and havent really run game but i think i want to start, so i figured i could pick them up and not look AFC, i picked them up and when i handed it to her, she touched my hand, and her hand lingered a bit and the touch was kinda sensual, is this just how girls are or should i pursue things becuase it was an IOI?

this is just one of those small things but i figure why not?

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Good luck, happy Sarging!

-Mister GQ

You are my new favorite person. This is genius. Looking back on a few of my successful sarges with women, it makes complete sense as a base pattern for what I was doing.

Spark and I are going to be in Atlantic City this weekend.

Thanks to you I have some experimenting to do.

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Bright

“Ridicule is like a wolf: it only destroys those who fear it”

The Word of the Day:
saucy: (adj) impertinently bold and impudent; amusingly forward and flippant; irrepressible.

Hey Zip, I've a question regarding a girl in one of my classes.

As seen here, this girl (HBSeattle) has a boyfriend that she's had for more than 2 years.

She opened me the first time and, since then, we've been meeting before class and telling stories and chatting. I'm really C&F, and got her number with an opening to go salsa dancing the next week. Long story short, any time I arrange for any out-of-school meeting, she states that her boyfriend will be coming along, even though she's really flirty with me and all such things.

I'm looking to BF destroy, but I need a way to escalate what we have with her in the interim.

The question is, what do I do?

Second part:
Two set in the classroom (I'm alpha of the room, it happened with my C&F, intelligence and wit that I started the first day of classes), one's HBBosnian and the other is HBFriend. HBFriend was, for awhile, being the bitch shield for HBBosnian (who flirts with me incessantly but has a boyfriend (Yes. Another.)). I directly negged HBFriend, and she lightened up so they're all flirty with me now, but NOTHING is coming of it.

How the hell do I go from being the "cool guy to flirt with" to the "cool guy to date/fuck/whatever"?

You have probably been asked this, but here goes. How would you like to be picked up? Details please. Like how the guy should dress and the approach. Seems like you would go for the guys who don't rely on remember lines and routines.

Wait a minute So you werent calling me a bro? I mean your damn right you werent calling me your bro! You cant just call someone your bro when your attracted to him! that would never work out! LOL Hmm this takes things to a whole new level Zipo

Okay, now you're officially being punished for being an idiot. I'm not answering anything from you for a while.

Rule number one, never game a wing. It's disrespectful.

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- Zip

Maybe she thought your triangular hair-cut was OUT THERE bro!

OK, M_Style, these guys are here to help us. Trying to game zip, (oh how I cringed when I read your posts) just isn't going to work.

Give the girl some respect.

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*Justice renders the WEAK his due*
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Hello Zip. I just finished reading this entire thread, and I have to say it was overall a very enjoyable read. I decided to read it after recieving the TripZip newsletter. I have talked to Tripp some, very knowledgable guy. I want to read his FAQ thread soon too, when I get a chance.

I recall you mentioned you had some clients that were good at reading bodylanguage. Did they mention where they learned this ability from? I'm interested in body language beyond just PUA, because it has great applications in art, especially moving art. I read that ebook that is stickied and am writing a review about it, from an outsiders perspective.

I have read eye contact is quite important when opening. Do you think its a good idea to lower the eyes after intially seeing someone, if you intend to game them? What would run through your head if someone did this to you, by holding eye contact than breaking away by lookind down?

You also mentioned hypnotica, I assume a inner game guru or PUA? What make his stuff so great?

I dont know that happened to my other 2 posts but its okay!

all i wanted to say zip was i appreciate everything you do around here and like i said before dont mind some things I say! As far as he punishment goes! Guys let this be a lesson to all of us so that we don't do this, well ofcourse including me!

Zip i know you said you wont answer me but this is not a PU quetion so i'll shoot! The newsletter=great idea! I have subscribed to mystry's and yours! And it gives great info! As far as yours and Tripps goes, have you guys send the first one yet? Or you guys are just accepting people to sign up?

What are the essential components of a great first phone call from a guy?

Be as specific as possible. How long does the call last? Any specific topics
hit on? etc...


Let me know if you need a specific scenario. Let's just say for now that
for whatever reason, he earned your phone number.

Moving along,

Hey everyone. It's been a super busy and crazy time lately, but I'll be back soon.

Just an update,
I've been in Nashville with the guys from the PMZ meetup, and it's been a privilege getting to meet everyone face to face. I'm sure there will be some great stories and posts in the next week to share.

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