What I mean is this: The first time that I use something, it does not work. I use it again, it works. Then it works all the time. Then it stops working. Each time with a different woman - as if they talked to each other and decided to not accept a certain phrase or technique.

I think that just about every guy that reads techniques and routines will at some point come to the same conclusion. That conclusion is that at some point the need for techniques and routines are not needed and it becomes more about who you are. While you keep searching for a routine that works, it may work just because you believe in what you just read and you perform in confidently and that leads to success. Once you are at a point in performing that routine and you lose passion in it because it isn't you and you aren't congruent anymore. So that search begins again. At the end of the day, it's the ability to be charming while understanding the pattern of seduction is what works. That allows you to be yourself and remain congruent and you spend less time about worrying about what to do next. At least that's what worked for me.

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You're a "this glass is half empty" type of guy.

Change it because not only nobody here likes you. Evidently same for women too.

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Being myself does not cut it. For many women(all good-looking ones) I am just not enough. I wonder how uber-human their boyfriends or previous boyfriends must (have) be(en). As gunwitch once put it, if you didn't develop your "sun", ie masculinity, you come across as an insignificant ant.

Routines don't cut it, I don't cut it. I see no other way.

Yes, there might be a lack of passion. Fuck, when you say that, I am reminded of how unfair that whole passion thing is: having a passion requires work and good circumstances. And she doesn't need a passion, she just needs to be beautiful and have a vagina, that fucking lazy cunt.

Women have literally nothing going for them but demand so much and even get it. Just for having a fucking pussy.
Please define "understanding the pattern of seduction".
When it comes to women, I am a "this glass is empty" type of guy.
Unlikely. But in general, not being liked is a good thing.
Not evidently.

Straightforward,...what do you want women for? Sex? Pay for it. Relationships? Then find one you like who has what you want.

You don't even see yourself as good enough for good looking women. Why should they see you as good enough? Attract then seduce. All of those routines you try are based on this pattern. You have to get her to be attracted to you in order to seduce her. If you make yourself attractive, you'll have no issues at completing the pattern.

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Ah okay, if you say so.

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Sex and no, I will never pay for what others who are no better than me get for free.

They don't leave out any opportunity to show me how I am not good enough. In my world, you cannot force women to adore and have sex with you. So what do you do?
Btw, have you ever had success with asking "Can I kiss you?" it is being recommended by mystery and I have never been successful with it. If you have, how do you make that work?

I'll answer a few questions:

1. I have a positive image and attitude because I'm a badass.

2. I actually do not have the view that everything that a chick does is okay. I don't even bother with a neg if I'm offended, I'll jsut plain out call them out. It's an AFC mistake not to.

3. The dancing monkey is when you give value, don't. Act like you're hot shit. You've got to belive it. RSD has helped me immensely with it. Don't open with "Oh, you're hot." Don't complement her on looks. Only complement her if she does something you like. Make her work for it. If she complements you just say "Thanks" or "I know" If you're feeling cocky.

4. You'll get better the more you practice. That's all I can say. There's no fool proof method. You can get up to 98% but never 100%. My newbie advice post has a part about choosing the method that works for you. You should read that. Example: Mystery doesn't work for me, but based off of your personality it may work for you (You call it crap, but I honestly think it would suit you).. Something with a lot of negging and playing hard to get would suit your style well. Stealth is the other way around (and it works for me). You're going after the girl, but you're not complementing her and kinoing a lot. If you think Mystery is bad when it comes to material, look at RSD, lol (21 hours of video for blueprint vs 5 hours for Mystery).

Good luck. I think you're pissed (rightfully) just because you're kinda stuck. I hope you get out of this phase. We all have it at some point.

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It works when the girl is attracted to you, also, just kissing her works when she is attracted to you. Get it?

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Imagine if you met someone who clearly hated you on a deep level just for being born the way you were. Would you want more of that person in your life?

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That's the point I'm trying to make to you. You're trying to show them...in essence putting on a show with your routines. Just be awesome without having to be awesome for anyone else. Once you start doing that you never have to worry about having an opportunity to show them because it will just be your character and you'll start to be attractive naturally.I've never asked to kiss a woman so I don't know if that works.

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You keep saying "It doesn't work! It's not working!"

No motherfucker... It's YOU. Your personality sucks.

Believe me, I'm not taking a shot at you at all when I say this... But you need to hear it:

You couldn't pay me to hang out with you.

The title of your post is your EXACT problem... Your attitude sucks. You're negative as fuck. You complain all the time. Do you complain like that when you talk to a girl? No wonder they run away.

Here's my advice to you... instead of worrying about which routine to use, worry about working on yourself. Do things that will help you be a better person. Sit down and really think about where you want your life to go... map it out for yourself... then start to execute and keep going until you get there.

When I read your posts, I feel like I'm listening to a little boy who's the prince and has never had to do anything difficult in his life. Never had to worry about anything or faced a single hard time in his life. It's time for you to become King my friend. You need to become a man. You need to get out there and "slay the dragon."

I'm getting a little poetic but hopefully you get my metaphor. You need to man the fuck up son!

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The boomerang irony is strong in this one.

I'm not a proponent of saying you're good enough. I think you don't deserve anything unless you have things that you bring to the table. That's like saying the guy who quit high school and smokes pot all day deserves a 6 figure salary and corner office.

Why WOULD a woman have sex with you? What do you have to offer? Can you give girls interesting conversation? Do you look and dress nice so that a girl can meet you somewhere and feel proud? Can you turn a girl on? Can you give her good sex? If you can't do these things, you're not getting laid, especially by hot girls. So if you want sex with hot girls, work on getting that shit handled. A hot girl still has to take care of her body and makeup /hair/ clothes stuff to look hot. While the fat girl is eating Big Macs and sporting nasty hair, the hot girl still has to work out, resist from eating certain foods and spends time to look hot. So the guys who sleep with them even if you think you're better than them, they are offering something you're not. So ask yourself, make a list here if you have to...what do you have to offer a woman?