Why do many people here have a positive image and attitude towards women?

In every pickup forum the tone is that if anything did not work out, it's the man's fault. This is good insofar as that it gives men the ability to act. "If it is my fault then it is my responsibility. I can change it.".

On the other hand, everything a woman does is fine in this community. Some say: "It's fine because we cannot change them" others say "It's fine because this is how it's meant to be".

Behaviour you would never accept from a male friend is perfectly fine when it comes from a woman.

Yes, there is the ability to act if you take all the responsibility but at the same time if you do that, you change behaviours of yourself, that are perfectly fine because one woman acted strangely and you, assuming that all women were beyond any doubt, change yourself just to fail with the next woman because your behaviour is now weird.

It is hard to find ways to punish people as new age has gotten into any area of self-help. And new age aka "eckhart tolle" says that all anger is ego based. Ego was something bad and therefore anger was wrong.

And here you go, question avoided. Question is: "How do I" Answer is "You don't need to as.." and what follows are reasons, the asker doesn't give a shit about.

I find myself searching again for ways how to punish women for misbehaving as all I got from community people or anywhere else on the internet were those dumb words by self-repressing people who think that enlightenment, aka dissociating yourself from your body's emotions, was something to be aspired. And of course, everybody who contradicts, just doesn't get it.

No matter how many people claim that violence was no solution, punishing women for being assholes was wrong and picking up women having a boyfriend was wrong, I will never stop searching for answers to my questions.

And I found some. Brutal martial arts and verbal repartee.

But deep inside I despise anyone on the internet who deliberately ignores my requests and sends me into the wrong direction. And not just on the internet, also in books that I pay money for I get the same limiting beliefs over and over.

As long as those questions that I have are not answered, people will always ask them and try to find information about it. Because they are normal questions anybody asks. And no buddhism or religion is right just because it's old and many people believe in it.

No, there is no state of enlightenment. Yes, violence is a great solution. Punishing women for being assholes is the only way to make them realize how much damage they create and make them suffer for it. Picking up girls in front of their boyfriends is the best way to get quality girls as they have already been tested and proven good girlfriends. But I won't justify any more, you disagree anyways, because you think this is all a game and wasting time of people is perfectly fine.

I'm not quite sure what you are saying, as your post is very muddled and confused.

Are you saying it's ok to beat women? If you are getting treated badly by multiple women consistently, it's likely that you are either 1) attracted to women who treat you badly or 2) behaving in a manner which invites women to treat you badly.

Be more specific about your situation. We cannot give you advice without real life facts about your situation.

Picking up women with boyfriends, and trying to make them your girlfriend? That will work. Totally dude. A girl who cheats on her prior boyfriend is going to be a great girlfriend for you.

How do I punish women? By taking myself away from them. I make their lives awesome, and if they fuck up, they are out of my life for at least some period of time.

Do I think there is a perfect enlightenment? No, but there are certainly people who are more comfortable with the way things are.

The whole point of the PUA thing is to try to understand women, once you have a deep understanding of something, you tend to appreciate it more. That's why we have a more positive attitude toward women.

If your method of fighting or beating women works for you, fine. But you're not gonna find alot of people who agree to use violence with anyone especially women to punish them. Hit a girl = jail. If violence is your great solution, fine, that's yours. Are you using it? Because you can't say you have a solution you're not using. And you're obviously not fighting girls (unless you're writing posts from prison).

I don't think people are intentionally wasting your time. They most likely just don't realize you're a sociopath.

Adam Lanza wrote a whole manifesto for those with your mindset. So there is indeed stuff out there.

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I'm guessing what he's trying to get at is: If a woman pushes you off and acts all cold and jerky, its because you did something wrong (Not her). If a man does the same to you (Trying to make friends with him), he's blamed.

To answer, that is what the pickup mindset is about (In my opinion). They're a game, and you need to learn how to win it. Men are just for friendship, so placing blame on them is okay.

Unless you are trying to fuck men, of course you are gonna treat men and women differently.

You are responsible for the seduction process.

Is it possible something entirely external to yourself caused you to not get the girl? Absolutely.

But that's a bad mindset to take. Blaming failure on external events is a good way to never improve.

Thus you should act as if it is ALWAYS your fault, or near enough, unless you have direct evidence to the contrary. And even then, you might be biased, and should consider that it is possibly STILL your fault in some way.

When you go after women, you are going after a leadership position, whether you realize it or not. They're looking for you to be a leader, and as the leader, you're the one held responsible for how the whole thing turns out.

The average woman does not care to get appreciably better at seduction. She wants to be seduced, and the man who seduces her is, by definition, man enough for her. If a guy fails, to her - oh well, he wasn't the right one. She doesn't look for signs about why it failed - this does not concern her. That is your job, to understand how the hunt works. She doesn't care to or want to know, generally. It may even turn her off to know.

The responsibility is on you. That being said, feel free to hold women accountable - but doing so from a position of logical argument will do you no good. They do not care. The average woman has no love for logic - feelings are the bedrock of correctness in her world. The only way you can hold them accountable is by how you act - namely by removing validation and attention from them.

Taking responsibility for everything that happens, and accept whatever a girls is doing, is wrong IMO. It makes you try harder to achieve something that isn't for your own good. You will hurt yourself mentally by having such unrealistic demands on yourself, you will look like a try-hard and will become incongruent. With other words, you will get less results, feel worse about it, punish yourself, feel even worse, try even harder, fail even more etc... It's just going downhill. You are only responsible for your own actions, not the outcome.

PUA mentality is wrong. PUAs want something (girls), and they try hard to get them. It's all backwards. Good game is about giving, being generous as in offering the girl a good time without any expectations, as in offering value, as in just having fun. People who don't appreciate your company don't deserve it, and they should be punished by being ignored, freezed out, not welcome. They shouldn't be pursued with a different strategy as all PUAs who "take responsibility" think. Such girls simply don't deserve it. And that's how I tend to think about people in general - do they deserve my attention? Probably not, but I need to give everyone a chance.

Today I came to the conclusion again that I have no idea anymore, what works.

Every technique that I used so far has worked with the same amount of women that it didn't work with.

I recently thought about "How do I give her value" before the approach. I did it some times and became the dancing monkey.

Then I think, okay, I am the dancing monkey, why should I give value in the first place? After all the woman does not even look at me, I am that unimportant to her.

Why give her value to get unsolicited information about the people that fuck her?

Today I was seeing this hot woman. Normally I would have approached her with "Hey, I think you look nice" or "Hey I like your looks" or similar. I can do that in a normal voice. But no matter how I say it, I get the bf-line. I ignore it, I get the "I really have to go" line.

I didn't do it today for the first time in quite a long time because I thought the thought I used to have back in the day frequently "It won't lead to anything anyway". And of course she did not even notice me and even if she had noticed, she wouldn't have thought anything but "well if he doesn't approach me, he isn't the right one". The fucking female justification for being the reckless beings that they are.

This always happens with good-looking women - sure the leftovers are a little different. And then there are those women that I talk to and notice that the sexual tension is so low as if I was talking to my sister if I had one. And that even if I do push pull, use negs, am a jerk.

What I need is a failproof step by step way that does not contradict itself that can be used to look something up again and find answers without having to ask in some forum and experience this.

The problem with the mystery method is the thickness of the book, the unprecise structure and the unability to look something up, it does not even have a decent register and this fuck, mystery, has to come up with all kinds of stupid definitions as if I wanted to study a science.

Gunwitch just writes and writes, no headlines, no markers just a lot of text. And again, no way to look sth. up.

The first problem is that you have aspergers.
The second problem is that you appear to be the really bad kind, that is coupled with sociopathy. Girls can smell it on you. They sense danger, and correctly so. Elliot Rodger experienced all of the same problems you're experiencing and for the exact same reason.

Gunwitch is an ugly fuck, and he does not bang hot women. He bangs fat women. The only thin women he bangs are meth addicts(which he supplies with meth) Some of what he says is fine, but if you want a "guru" to learn from, 60YOC took Gunwitch and fixed it. The true "Gunwitch method" consists of finding women who use meth and giving them meth in exchange for sex. He neglects telling you that part, which is the most important part of his method.

The fact that Gunwitch shot a woman in the face, and your obvious psychotic tendencies does not inspire confidence in helping you. I'd like to think there is something we could tell you to help, but I sense murder in your future, and I really don't want to help with that.

My advice: you need to see a mental health professional.

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RSDTyler

You must be an asbergers then. What you wrote sounds exactly like you.

Post a picture of yourself. That way you can identify whether looks are the problem and if so you can fix that. If they aren't, then you can figure out what you're doing wrong.

Maybe if you weren't such a dick when people try and help you... You would actually be able to learn something.

I'd comment cause I probably can help you... but whats the point? lol You're just gonna be a cock sucker.

Atleast you admitted that you have no idea what you're doing... but now who's gonna want to help you? You've been a dick to me a few times. I don't want to help you.

I told you before man... You keep being mean to the people that are trying to help you get better... then you will not get better. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

Good luck

You are at 50%. That means for each no you get a yes. How can you not have a positive image and attitude with that stat?

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