And just to clarify to those who do not want to read a zillion lines

I have no problem with not having a table. I have no problem with regular club game. As a matter of fact, I do it often and I enjoy it. It also works well.

My argument in this thread is quite simple:

(1) Having a table is a superset of regular club game: you can do anything you can do without a table with a table, PLUS you can do more. This cannot possibly be a point of contention, unless you don't grasp simple logic.

(2) Having a table is often a DHV -- this seems to be the main point of contention. The reality is women are attracted to successful men and many women correlate financial success with being successful. It also gives social proof if you have a big group at your table and you are the center of attention there.

(3) A table gives an easy way to isolate pre bouncing from the club -- this is an obvious benefit I'm not sure how anyone can argue against

(4)

(a) People majorly struggle to separate the financial cost of something with it's effectiveness, and (b) refuse to accept that women are attracted to guys with money not only because they have money; that a girl being into a guy because he is really successful financially does not mean she is a gold digger or just using him for his money.

Point 4(b) is one that requires much more in-depth debate, but is completely irrelevant to the other points (especially point 1) which show beyond any reasonable doubt that table game is better than not table game assuming the money is not an object, because you don't even have to use the table unless you want to!

Also, what I find interesting is that those who have no experience/don't do table game and/or don't have much money are the ones who rag on it, whereas those who have and do both seem to speak for table game ... I always find it interesting when people who don't do something and have no experience in it trash it... yet I get flak when I have substantial experience in both.

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What exactly can you do with a table that I can't do without one? It's just a table, bro. An over-priced secret VIP table designed for chump suckers like you. The Emperor's New Clothes, that's all it is. You think I can't isolate without a table? I got news for you: A girl doesn't want to spend all night in one place. If you were actually good at picking up women, you would know this from experience. Moving a girl around the club and out of the club is the key to success.
Again, you fail to differentiate between the Sex Provider and the Lifestyle Provider. I am the former and you are the latter. How else did i steal my current girlfriend from a multi-millionaire? And why do the same women fuck millionaires AND rebel biker dudes with tattoos with no money?

The truth is, it helps to have chumps like you to provide the lifestyle and the champagne for my women. It makes it easier for me to come in and provide the sex and emotion you are lacking. You are like a eunuch for the real deal guys.

I can sense your anger and frustration. And I understand why you're angry; you are frustrated that women don't actually like you, they just like your money. You live a vapid existence which is as boring as it is unrewarding.

Keep hating bro! Keep lashing out to prove your alpha bro status by putting me in my place! I'm such a fucking beta virgin, you need to alpha me, bro! AMOG me! Mock my pitiful income in front of women, just to prove how secure you are!

Too full of stupidity and more personal attacks you pretend you don't do to even bother.... If other readers out there are interested in me rebutting a bunch of the idiocy in this post let me know and I will...

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I have never paid a penny for RSD products. I just watch some of the free videos. And even if I did decide to go to a seminar or buy a DVD, what would he gain from giving bad advice? Let's say he recommended money game, then his customers failed, they are gonna blame him for it and NEVER go back to him. It would harm his business to give bad advice.

wow, you really are dense. Seriously. He'd rather you spend your money on his products and his market is much bigger because the number of people without money who want to get girls is way larger than the group with money. Your stupidity continues to impress me. Anyways, if you want to continue to have this debate with me either email me (josh@joshsway.com) or PM ME... unless other people chime into this thread and want more about the pros and cons of table game I'm done responding to you.

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Oh you know I'm too scared and beta to email you bro. You are just too fucking alpha right now. And I can't possibly let the other readers of the forum miss your next post of wisdom to smack me down like the bitch that I am. How big are your biceps and how much can you bench?

Of course RSD is marketed at guys with no money. Only a noob like that guy from JoshSway.com would market his dating products at the smallest demographic of rich guys who already have a ton of money... Oh, wait....

Again. Women are emotional beings rather than logical ones; except for those masculine types of women.

Feminine women get their pussy wet while dancing in the dark and some dude is grinding his hard cock by her ass. Feminine women's pussy don't get wet seeing a load of cash being blown away at a $2,000 bottle of wine.

Who do you think will get laid: the dude who is rubbing his cock on the girl's ass in the dark or the guy who is drinking a $2,000 dollar wine at a table?

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PM and/or email applies to you also given your history of complete and utter idiocy on these forums. Hunter Foxe is surprising because I generally agree with a lot of what he says, you on the other hand have established yourself as a clueless idiot a long time ago.

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I don't get it. If you're sick of the topic, why are you offering us the option of PM / email? It will take the same amount of time for you to reply, so why deny other readers the chance to learn something?

Because this thread has devolved into a personal argument .. like I said, if someone other than you and hellhound actually care about this debating continuing, they will post here and I will be happy to debunk a lot of the recent dumb shit you and him both said.

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I'm still talking about PUA theory. Scroll up the page and debunk my posts. The main point is your table doesn't provide you with anything you or i can't offer a girl without a table. So, you say table game is just one element of your game? It provides you with a quiet secluded place away from the dance floor so you can isolate and escalate? Ok, but I can just isolate her by leading her anywhere, the bathroom, the smoking area, the upstairs lounge with sofas, another bar round the corner, a food place, my place, her place. None of these cost even a fraction of the price you pay for a table. So not only do i achieve the same thing (isolation) I also keep a more masculine frame because I don't put her on a pedestal by plying her with drinks. Buying her affection keeps her pussy dry and your wallet empty.

You have personally insulted me many times (you can call them what you want but saying I have debilitating AA, all the "you mad bro" "amog me bro" that girls use me, that I can't get girls without flashing cash, etc.) based on nothing but your stupidity. If you want to have this debate rationally without insults (which I am not sure you can because you sure as shit don't even have a clue what is a personal attack and what isn't) I will continue to engage you and will refrain from insulting you myself. If you agree to that then let's go, otherwise, fuck you, PM me.

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Is your self esteem really that low that a random stranger allegedly insulting you on an anonymous forum makes you "rage quit" a thread?

Come on dude, man up. It's just the way i am. A party guy who doesn't take everything so seriously. Behind all the banter, I have made serious points. It's up to you whether you choose to answer them or not.

What part of either agree of fuck you PM me didn't you get? No surprise I guess, given how stupid these posts of yours show you are.

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So what I've learned is that you can achieve the same results with or without a table. However, the table can be used as a qualifier for a specific demographic in Miami.

My question is what is the more you can do with a table? This is the only thing that has not been addressed.

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