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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:15 pm 
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Whats up guys?

just some information on me, I want to express the fact that I am famous in my social circle for abandoning girls who flake/play hard to get almost immediately...which in turn leaves me nailing needy girls i dont have much interest in...my ego often gets in the way of persistence and this situation is my attempt to try and do things differently

Last weekend I met up with my friend and his girlfriend and one of her friends, a cute Dominican girl I had met through them before. Long story short, my friends parents were gone for the weekend and i ended up sleeping with said girl...no barriers either....full out freaky sex... She was sexy and had a very cute bubbly personality

Before parting on Sunday, I got her number. I messaged her on Monday and asked to meet her for drinks at a local bar Wednesday to which she agreed. Tuesday she texted me and said she had a friend visiting from another school and wanted a rain check....she suggested friday but i had informal plans with my brother for the weekend and while they were loose, i didnt want to break them for someone who cancelled on me with a questionable excuse so I said i couldnt make it and would contact her next week

Fast forward to yesterday, messaged her and after a few jokes and some teasing, I asked her what her week was like to which she said she was working crazy hours and was all over the place with her schedule. no initiative to hang later this time

Now at this point im thinking I basically made contact twice, she basically denied twice, shes probably not interested and maybe was just looking for some one night available fun no strings attached....

I mentioned whats been going on to a couple friends over some beers at lunch and they said "you always do this" and I should be more persistent....I told them she knows what I want and she should be doing this contacting at this point

What do you guys think? On one hand, I really do feel I made my intentions clear and she hasnt really reciprocated but on the other, this is usually where I part ways (and its usually with the good ones) and i dont end up getting the girl i want

Buddies are insisting I hit her up this weekend but that feels weak...im thinking of cutting her off and seeing how she reacts and forgetting about it if nothing happens
what do you guys think?

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Whats up guys?

just some information on me, I want to express the fact that I am famous in my social circle for abandoning girls who flake/play hard to get almost immediately...which in turn leaves me nailing needy girls i dont have much interest in...my ego often gets in the way of persistence and this situation is my attempt to try and do things differently

Last weekend I met up with my friend and his girlfriend and one of her friends, a cute Dominican girl I had met through them before. Long story short, my friends parents were gone for the weekend and i ended up sleeping with said girl...no barriers either....full out freaky sex... She was sexy and had a very cute bubbly personality

Before parting on Sunday, I got her number. I messaged her on Monday and asked to meet her for drinks at a local bar Wednesday to which she agreed. Tuesday she texted me and said she had a friend visiting from another school and wanted a rain check....she suggested friday but i had informal plans with my brother for the weekend and while they were loose, i didnt want to break them for someone who cancelled on me with a questionable excuse so I said i couldnt make it and would contact her next week

Fast forward to yesterday, messaged her and after a few jokes and some teasing, I asked her what her week was like to which she said she was working crazy hours and was all over the place with her schedule. no initiative to hang later this time

Now at this point im thinking I basically made contact twice, she basically denied twice, shes probably not interested and maybe was just looking for some one night available fun no strings attached....

I mentioned whats been going on to a couple friends over some beers at lunch and they said "you always do this" and I should be more persistent....I told them she knows what I want and she should be doing this contacting at this point

What do you guys think? On one hand, I really do feel I made my intentions clear and she hasnt really reciprocated but on the other, this is usually where I part ways (and its usually with the good ones) and i dont end up getting the girl i want

Buddies are insisting I hit her up this weekend but that feels weak...im thinking of cutting her off and seeing how she reacts and forgetting about it if nothing happens
what do you guys think?

Thanks in advance
There is a time to be persistent and this is not one of them. Cut her loose!

Because its social circle game, it's best to play the man of abundance and leave no room for error, meaning you persist but it back fires, then roars through your social circle like a virus, leaving you with no value for future inner social circle seductions.( all women talk)

It's not worth the risk, besides you'll have a better chance of hitting it again if you freeze her out. Odd's are you will run into her sometime. It's best to seem like it's her loss.

If there is any physical attraction remaining, she'll sooner show the man of abundance, as all women love a challenge.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:59 pm 
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Better to be on the side of no contact than too much. You run the risk of losing the girl though. If you are an alpha, you don't waste your time with that BS anyway, you have better things to do. There is a good chance she will hit you up in a couple weeks. When she does, see what her schedule is like. If she's still on your mind a month or two later, maybe hit her up and see.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:22 am 
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There is a time to be persistent and this is not one of them. Cut her loose!

Because its social circle game, it's best to play the man of abundance and leave no room for error, meaning you persist but it back fires, then roars through your social circle like a virus, leaving you with no value for future inner social circle seductions.( all women talk)

It's not worth the risk, besides you'll have a better chance of hitting it again if you freeze her out. Odd's are you will run into her sometime. It's best to seem like it's her loss.

If there is any physical attraction remaining, she'll sooner show the man of abundance, as all women love a challenge.
Def agree with you. If I hit her up too often it will be awkward when I do bump into her...If I fall off the earth, it will probably mean a nice lay whenever I do manage to bump into her again whenever that may be...better not to burn any bridges


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Better to be on the side of no contact than too much. You run the risk of losing the girl though. If you are an alpha, you don't waste your time with that BS anyway, you have better things to do. There is a good chance she will hit you up in a couple weeks. When she does, see what her schedule is like. If she's still on your mind a month or two later, maybe hit her up and see.
she did offer a reschedule date when she cancelled last week which led me to believe she was interested..it was me that declined so I'm willing to let that slide

second time i didnt really ask her out I just asked her "what is your week like" to which she went on a tangent that shes super busy this week maybe I should have prompted for something to do?

You think theres any point hitting her up in the next week or two if I dont hear back?

I agree with you for the most part its just the last 4 - 5 girls I hit and quit....I usually dont catch feelings but this girl had a lasting impression for whatever reason and Id really like to see her again though I understand it may not happen


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Give it a shot in a week or two. You have nothing to lose, and you may hear from her first. If that doesn't work, then it may be time to go no contact.


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Give it a shot in a week or two. You have nothing to lose, and you may hear from her first. If that doesn't work, then it may be time to go no contact.
Yea Im gonna go ghost for a bit...im swamped with work and got a couple parties this weekend anyway...hit her up when shit at work dies down next week and if shes still beating around the bush forget it


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Typically you just assume she's not DTF and divert your attention elsewhere. However, there's nothing wrong with keeping her on a long leash and throwing her pebble every once in a while just to see if she's still remotely interested. That may keep her from forgetting about you until some point in the future when another guy breaks her heart and she feels vulnerable and lonely and decides that this other guy she's been texting occasionally (you) are the one she wants to go out with or hook up with.

I'm of the opinion that a long-shot is worth keeping around as long as you are investing a proportional amount of energy for what you are getting out of it. You can shoot her a text late at night or when you are bored or something, who cares. If she becomes completely unresponsive or disinterested then cut her lose entirely. Otherwise, treat her as a bench player and focus on your starters.

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I quickly skimmed through your text so forgive me if I miss the point
But here is my 2 cents on persistance

If im interested in a girl ill use the 3 times rule/4 times rule/however many times it takes rule as long as she is stringing along nicely and looks like a promising outcome.

I would never forgive myself if I like a girl and I only give it one shot then give up.

What kind of man would I be? A wuss
What kind of girls would I get? Easy fatties

I think itll hurt my ego more if I didnt put it all on the line lol.

Now, that doesnt mean go and be a needy creeper.
You must persist properly and accordingly. Be a true gentlemen. Show genuine interest.

It'll be worth it.

If you're a completely noob dont go crazy, keep in mind how she is feeling, if she doesnt want it, back off.

Persist only a few times, if after 3 tries is clear shes not interested. Move on !!

Just a disclaimer. Good luck ;)

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:04 pm 
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Fast forward to yesterday, messaged her and after a few jokes and some teasing, I asked her what her week was like to which she said she was working crazy hours and was all over the place with her schedule. no initiative to hang later this time
You could have told her to message you and let you know when she was free to get together.
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I mentioned whats been going on to a couple friends over some beers at lunch and they said "you always do this" and I should be more persistent....I told them she knows what I want and she should be doing this contacting at this point
She would definitely know to do the contacting if you told her to message you and let you know when she was free to get together.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:23 pm 
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Typically you just assume she's not DTF and divert your attention elsewhere. However, there's nothing wrong with keeping her on a long leash and throwing her pebble every once in a while just to see if she's still remotely interested. That may keep her from forgetting about you until some point in the future when another guy breaks her heart and she feels vulnerable and lonely and decides that this other guy she's been texting occasionally (you) are the one she wants to go out with or hook up with.

I'm of the opinion that a long-shot is worth keeping around as long as you are investing a proportional amount of energy for what you are getting out of it. You can shoot her a text late at night or when you are bored or something, who cares. If she becomes completely unresponsive or disinterested then cut her lose entirely. Otherwise, treat her as a bench player and focus on your starters.
For sure....i mean I already banged her...she told me she thought I was super hot and was really responsive to teasing in person but since that weekend hasnt been initiating any contact...not even a damn FB request....its just unusual....she was fun though and even if shes not interesting in booty calls or dating, i wanna smash again


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I quickly skimmed through your text so forgive me if I miss the point
But here is my 2 cents on persistance

If im interested in a girl ill use the 3 times rule/4 times rule/however many times it takes rule as long as she is stringing along nicely and looks like a promising outcome.

I would never forgive myself if I like a girl and I only give it one shot then give up.

Agreed this is part of the new approach im trying to take...i mean usually i only stick around for the girls who actively pursue me...i have a bit of an ego and get pissed and cut girls after 1 or 2 attempts....the catch is the girls i really like that are super sexy and full of confidence never end up being mine


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